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31 Jan 2013 12:44 PM   |   3520 clicks   |   The Hill
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solarpoweredschittmachine     
"HE SAID HE WOULD CLAIM THE CHILDREN..."

Lol.

31 Jan 2013 12:47 PM
Nothing To See Here     
Kiss Me

I'm IRS

31 Jan 2013 12:48 PM
dragonchild     
You can have adequate staffing at the IRS make sure taxes are properly calculated and collected, or you can shoestring their budget and have Congress cover the shortfall by raising taxes on the honest or going deeper into debt.  Option B is for if you're either stupid or an asshole.

31 Jan 2013 12:50 PM
super_grass     
Go back to Somalia, submitard.

Paying your taxes is the highest for of patriotism, right next to supporting your democratically elected leaders.

31 Jan 2013 12:50 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  
Subby can't read, or as we call it on Fark "a day that ends with a 'y'"

31 Jan 2013 12:50 PM
Mid_mo_mad_man     
They new agents need to target churches. There is a lot of the mega churches skirting the law

31 Jan 2013 12:50 PM
Englebert Slaptyback     
First line of TFA:


The IRS is doing a better job at getting new employees on board quickly, a new federal audit has found.


Last paragraph of TFA:


As the inspector general report notes, the IRS currently faces a hiring freeze, though it generally brings on thousands of new employees a year to help manage the tax filing season.


Learn to read, subby.

31 Jan 2013 12:51 PM
TofuTheAlmighty     
Good. Unless you're a tax cheat and don't want to get caught.

31 Jan 2013 12:52 PM
Whistling Kitty Chaser     
Regardless of the article, a tax agency naturally needs to grow as the population grows.

/Obvious scaremongering is obvious.

31 Jan 2013 12:53 PM
Random Anonymous Blackmail     
You can't spell bloated incompetence without IRS.

31 Jan 2013 12:54 PM
xria     

dragonchild: You can have adequate staffing at the IRS make sure taxes are properly calculated and collected, or you can shoestring their budget and have Congress cover the shortfall by raising taxes on the honest or going deeper into debt.  Option B is for if you're either stupid or an asshole.


Or Greek, apparently.

31 Jan 2013 12:54 PM
seadoo2006     

Mid_mo_mad_man: They new agents need to target churches. There is a lot of the mega churches skirting the law


This ... churches should be taxes as any other property owner in this country is.  Sorry, you don't get to do a runaround on tax law because your sky fairy is special.

31 Jan 2013 12:54 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  

seadoo2006: Mid_mo_mad_man: They new agents need to target churches. There is a lot of the mega churches skirting the law

This ... churches should be taxes as any other property owner in this country is.  Sorry, you don't get to do a runaround on tax law because your sky fairy is special.


Actually you do.

31 Jan 2013 12:55 PM
iheartscotch     
Now comes the winter of our discontent.

If Mr. Obama had allowed some subsitive cuts to be made; the IRS wouldn't need to hire more people than normal. Then we wouldn't have to endure the UFIA that is the audit. I wouldn't be surprised if audits go up by the same percentage hires went up.

/ I know, I know; it's not his fault, he isn't responsible for come up with the budget or anything. Oh wait....

31 Jan 2013 12:57 PM
LowbrowDeluxe     

iheartscotch: Now comes the winter of our discontent.

If Mr. Obama had allowed some subsitive cuts to be made; the IRS wouldn't need to hire more people than normal. Then we wouldn't have to endure the UFIA that is the audit. I wouldn't be surprised if audits go up by the same percentage hires went up.

/ I know, I know; it's not his fault, he isn't responsible for come up with the budget or anything. Oh wait....


Meet reality:

As the inspector general report notes, the IRS currently faces a hiring freeze, though it generally brings on thousands of new employees a year to help manage the tax filing season.

It has a known liberal bias, but you might get along if you tried it.

31 Jan 2013 01:01 PM
Stile4aly    [TotalFark]  

jst3p: seadoo2006: Mid_mo_mad_man: They new agents need to target churches. There is a lot of the mega churches skirting the law

This ... churches should be taxes as any other property owner in this country is.  Sorry, you don't get to do a runaround on tax law because your sky fairy is special.

Actually you do.


You do under current law but perhaps you shouldn't.  I understand the purpose of tax exemption for churches inasmuch as donations to churches are intended to be used for charitable purposes but it seems there are so many churches now that use their income to preach politics and build shining crystal abominations rather than set up food banks or clothing drives.  I feel that churches should be subject to objective rules around their spending so that things like charitable expenses remain as tax write offs while other income is subject to standard business accounting.

31 Jan 2013 01:03 PM
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier    [TotalFark]  
How dare an organization responsible for collecting taxes increase staffing needs. Go back to the old system - one guy with a bucket in the town square.

31 Jan 2013 01:04 PM
jst3p    [TotalFark]  

Stile4aly: jst3p: seadoo2006: Mid_mo_mad_man: They new agents need to target churches. There is a lot of the mega churches skirting the law

This ... churches should be taxes as any other property owner in this country is. Sorry, you don't get to do a runaround on tax law because your sky fairy is special.

Actually you do.

You do under current law but perhaps you shouldn't.


Well then, he should have said that.

31 Jan 2013 01:06 PM
natewill     
I guess somebody has to collect the buck o five to keep us all free.

31 Jan 2013 01:07 PM
DarkSoulNoHope     
"Bring out your dead! *clang* Bring out your dead!

31 Jan 2013 01:09 PM
hundreddollarman    [TotalFark]  
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31 Jan 2013 01:12 PM
Ego edo infantia cattus     
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31 Jan 2013 01:17 PM
Deep Contact     
From the IRS website itself:

"CI agents are appropriately armed to perform their law enforcement duties. The standard issue CI service weapon is the Sig Sauer Model 228 nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol."

So pay up or die.

31 Jan 2013 01:25 PM
TofuTheAlmighty     

Deep Contact: So pay up or die.


Standing their ground isn't permissible for IRS agents? Are they also exempt from the second amendment?

31 Jan 2013 01:31 PM
HaveBeerWillTravel     

Deep Contact: From the IRS website itself:

"CI agents are appropriately armed to perform their law enforcement duties. The standard issue CI service weapon is the Sig Sauer Model 228 nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol."

So pay up or die.


Yeah, the Special Agents who investigate criminal fraud, like claiming imaginary dependents and falsifying records. Not the dork with the accounting degree who shows up because you can't do arithmetic.

31 Jan 2013 01:35 PM
Stile4aly    [TotalFark]  

HaveBeerWillTravel: Deep Contact: From the IRS website itself:

"CI agents are appropriately armed to perform their law enforcement duties. The standard issue CI service weapon is the Sig Sauer Model 228 nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol."

So pay up or die.

Yeah, the Special Agents who investigate criminal fraud, like claiming imaginary dependents and falsifying records. Not the dork with the accounting degree who shows up because you can't do arithmetic.


It's probably harder stuff than imaginary dependents, probably more along the lines of ferreting out money laundering or tax evasion by criminal enterprise.  Remember, the Untouchables were Treasury agents.

31 Jan 2013 01:39 PM
Mr. Right    [TotalFark]  

dragonchild: You can have adequate staffing at the IRS make sure taxes are properly calculated and collected, or you can shoestring their budget and have Congress cover the shortfall by raising taxes on the honest or going deeper into debt.  Option B is for if you're either stupid or an asshole.


That sounds reasonable.  Until you come to grips with the fact that staffing isn't the problem; the complexity of the tax code is.  Asking a question to any number of IRS employees will result in an equal number of differing answers.  The complexity of the tax code is a direct response to campaign contributions.  Campaign cash is to politicians as protection money is to the mafia.  Simplifying the tax code and eliminating a goodly share of deductions and credits, especially those focused on large corporations and the wealthy, would do a lot more to increase revenue than armies of IRS agents who won't live long enough to be able to understand the tax code they are expected to enforce.

31 Jan 2013 01:42 PM
sethstorm     

Deep Contact: From the IRS website itself:

"CI agents are appropriately armed to perform their law enforcement duties. The standard issue CI service weapon is the Sig Sauer Model 228 nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol."

So pay up or die.


As it should be, although they might want to arm themselves a bit more and be willing to be deployed to seized tax haven countries.

31 Jan 2013 01:43 PM
treecologist     
Subby reading comprehension fail.

It's been said before but this is so bad, it needs to be said again.

31 Jan 2013 01:43 PM
CarnySaur     
So hold on tight, let the flight begin.  They're at an all time high.

31 Jan 2013 01:46 PM
HaveBeerWillTravel     

Stile4aly: HaveBeerWillTravel: Deep Contact: From the IRS website itself:

"CI agents are appropriately armed to perform their law enforcement duties. The standard issue CI service weapon is the Sig Sauer Model 228 nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol."

So pay up or die.

Yeah, the Special Agents who investigate criminal fraud, like claiming imaginary dependents and falsifying records. Not the dork with the accounting degree who shows up because you can't do arithmetic.

It's probably harder stuff than imaginary dependents, probably more along the lines of ferreting out money laundering or tax evasion by criminal enterprise.  Remember, the Untouchables were Treasury agents.


There is some of that stuff, definitely, but you might be surprised at how much time is spent on EITC fraud, etc.

There was a case I was involved in where they were after this woman who managed to steal about $80K with variations on that scam. Collecting stolen identities, etc. She also was a mid-level drug dealer/debt enforcer and was smuggling narcotics into Attica for sale by her husband, the convicted murderer. I was glad those agents had guns.

31 Jan 2013 01:52 PM
AcneVulgaris     

dragonchild: You can have adequate staffing at the IRS make sure taxes are properly calculated and collected, or you can shoestring their budget and have Congress cover the shortfall by raising taxes on the honest or going deeper into debt.  Option B is for if you're either stupid or an asshole.


In a word, republican.

31 Jan 2013 01:54 PM
GORDON     

dragonchild: You can have adequate staffing at the IRS make sure taxes are properly calculated and collected, or you can shoestring their budget and have Congress cover the shortfall by raising taxes on the honest or going deeper into debt.  Option B is for if you're either stupid or an asshole.


Obama 2016.

31 Jan 2013 01:58 PM
Brick-House     
Now I don't want to scare anyone, but the IRS is hiring people that couldn't get into the TSA.  Then again, perhaps this has been the plan all along...

31 Jan 2013 02:02 PM
HindiDiscoMonster     

Stile4aly: jst3p: seadoo2006: Mid_mo_mad_man: They new agents need to target churches. There is a lot of the mega churches skirting the law

This ... churches should be taxes as any other property owner in this country is.  Sorry, you don't get to do a runaround on tax law because your sky fairy is special.

Actually you do.

You do under current law but perhaps you shouldn't.  I understand the purpose of tax exemption for churches inasmuch as donations to churches are intended to be used for charitable purposes but it seems there are so many churches now that use their income to preach politics and build shining crystal abominations rather than set up food banks or clothing drives.  I feel that churches should be subject to objective rules around their spending so that things like charitable expenses remain as tax write offs while other income is subject to standard business accounting.


THIS

oh and in case i was unclear....

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31 Jan 2013 02:03 PM
Brick-House     
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31 Jan 2013 02:03 PM
HaveBeerWillTravel     

david_gaithersburg: Deep Contact: From the IRS website itself:

"CI agents are appropriately armed to perform their law enforcement duties. The standard issue CI service weapon is the Sig Sauer Model 228 nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol."

So pay up or die.

.
Obamacare requires 16,000 new IRS auditors as part of the enforcement effort, look it up.

/By insurance
//and you may not get shot.
///See now how Obamacare will prevent you from getting sick.


http://www.politifact.com/georgia/sta tements/2012/jul/10/tom-price/pri ce-16000-irs-agents-will-enforce-obama -health-c/

Total employees, not agents or auditors. Maybe. Someday. Eventually. Very few of them are enforcement personnel. None of them are going to shoot you.

31 Jan 2013 02:11 PM
ghare     
Right, we should under-staff them, so they can't do their jobs well, so we can complain about how the service sucks, and of course so they can't find the BIG tax cheats.

31 Jan 2013 02:14 PM
tbhouston     

HindiDiscoMonster: Stile4aly: jst3p: seadoo2006: Mid_mo_mad_man: They new agents need to target churches. There is a lot of the mega churches skirting the law

This ... churches should be taxes as any other property owner in this country is.  Sorry, you don't get to do a runaround on tax law because your sky fairy is special.

Actually you do.

You do under current law but perhaps you shouldn't.  I understand the purpose of tax exemption for churches inasmuch as donations to churches are intended to be used for charitable purposes but it seems there are so many churches now that use their income to preach politics and build shining crystal abominations rather than set up food banks or clothing drives.  I feel that churches should be subject to objective rules around their spending so that things like charitable expenses remain as tax write offs while other income is subject to standard business accounting.

THIS

oh and in case i was unclear....

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but but...thats GODS money

31 Jan 2013 02:24 PM
Slaves2Darkness     

super_grass: Go back to Somalia, submitard.

Paying your taxes is the highest for of patriotism, right next to supporting your democratically elected leaders.


No paying taxes it the third highest form of patriotism.

The first highest form is jury duty, literally your only sovereign duty to the US. The second is voting. Third is paying taxes and fourth is serving in the military.

31 Jan 2013 02:24 PM
litespeed74     
IRS is like the Catholic Church, but without the guilt.

31 Jan 2013 02:25 PM
dragonchild     

Mr. Right: Until you come to grips with the fact that staffing isn't the problem; the complexity of the tax code is.


The IRS doesn't write tax law any more than the police write criminal law.  Sometimes they're stuck with the thankless job of interpreting laws they didn't write, and that can lead to problems, but this has jack-all to do with overall staffing levels.

If you have an issue with the tax code and you direct your hate at the IRS, that's like walking into BP's headquarters over the whole Deepwater Horizon snafu and shooting the receptionist.  The IRS doesn't even work for Congress; they work for the Treasury.  Given you actually have some semblance of control over who represents you in Congress, you're more to blame for the very tax code you hate than the IRS!

31 Jan 2013 02:32 PM
Thunderpipes     

dragonchild: You can have adequate staffing at the IRS make sure taxes are properly calculated and collected, or you can shoestring their budget and have Congress cover the shortfall by raising taxes on the honest or going deeper into debt.  Option B is for if you're either stupid or an asshole.


You can add thousands of new regulations to an already massively bloated tax code, and then demand more government employees who will all vote for your party.

31 Jan 2013 02:33 PM
wruley     
I got audited two years ago. That thoroughly sucked ass.

I thought we were fairly organized on the tax side of things. Holy shiat.

It took us 2 months to get everything cleared up. I had to provide everything for the last 5 years.

Needless to say, I have a biased view of the IRS.

31 Jan 2013 02:33 PM
hutchkc     
First if the IRS was adding people it would be a shockers since everyone should have their W-2s and filing soon.  Putting on more staff for the rush would seem logical to me.  More work usually means more people oddly enough.

As a personal note I never understood the hatred of the IRS.  I don't think anyone loves taxes but they pay for all the crap we use.  I dislike where some of the money goes, but so does everyone else. Although I think NASA needs a lot more $ and the DOD less, I'm sure there are others that feel vice versa.  As a society you can't always have it your way

31 Jan 2013 02:42 PM
Stile4aly    [TotalFark]  

david_gaithersburg: Deep Contact: From the IRS website itself:

"CI agents are appropriately armed to perform their law enforcement duties. The standard issue CI service weapon is the Sig Sauer Model 228 nine millimeter semi-automatic pistol."

So pay up or die.

.
Obamacare requires 16,000 new IRS auditors as part of the enforcement effort, look it up study it out.

/By insurance
//and you may not get shot.
///See now how Obamacare will prevent you from getting sick.


FTFY

31 Jan 2013 02:48 PM
DownDaRiver     
It takes money to take money. No, wait, that's make money.

No, I think I got it right the first time.

31 Jan 2013 02:51 PM
Mr. Right    [TotalFark]  

dragonchild: Mr. Right: Until you come to grips with the fact that staffing isn't the problem; the complexity of the tax code is.

The IRS doesn't write tax law any more than the police write criminal law.  Sometimes they're stuck with the thankless job of interpreting laws they didn't write, and that can lead to problems, but this has jack-all to do with overall staffing levels.

If you have an issue with the tax code and you direct your hate at the IRS, that's like walking into BP's headquarters over the whole Deepwater Horizon snafu and shooting the receptionist.  The IRS doesn't even work for Congress; they work for the Treasury.  Given you actually have some semblance of control over who represents you in Congress, you're more to blame for the very tax code you hate than the IRS!


I am not directing any animosity whatsoever to the IRS.  I understand that It's Congress who writes tax code.  They write tax code in direct response to campaign contributions.  The IRS has the hopeless task of trying to  understand and implement what amounts to one of the world's largest cluster-farks.  I am simply pointing out that hiring more folks in the IRS isn't going to do a lick of good when nobody there or anywhere else in this country has a prayer of understanding the tax code.  Getting Congress to simplify it would do far more than any number of new IRS agents..  As I pointed out, if you ask 3 IRS guys the same question, you're going to get 3 answers.  Not because any one of those IRS agents is stupid, not because they're malicious but because they are asked to understand what cannot be understood.

31 Jan 2013 02:52 PM
Ghengis_Socrates     

dragonchild: If you have an issue with the tax code and you direct your hate at the IRS, that's like walking into BP's headquarters over the whole Deepwater Horizon snafu and shooting the receptionist. The IRS doesn't even work for Congress; they work for the Treasury. Given you actually have some semblance of control over who represents you in Congress, you're more to blame for the very tax code you hate than the IRS!


While the IRS is a division of the Treasury, the IRS does not report to the Treasury.  The Commissioner of the IRS is appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate for a five year term.  The head of the IRS answers only to the courts and  Congress, not  to the Treasury; it is still correct to blame Congress.

31 Jan 2013 02:57 PM
eyeq360     
Tax season is coming up soon.  They need the new people to buy large quantities of anal lube so they can easier screw everyone.

31 Jan 2013 03:01 PM
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