With only two victims, I guess we don't have to reset the "mass shooting" clock.

ox45tallboy: With only two victims, I guess we don't have to reset the "mass shooting" clock.

If only we could find the particle that gives shootings mass.

Relatively Obscure: If only we could find the particle that gives shootings mass.

The media seems to be identifying that particle as "the third victim", but that's not a great bit of comfort to the loved ones of the first two.

We should just ban schools.

ox45tallboy: Relatively Obscure: If only we could find the particle that gives shootings mass.

The media seems to be identifying that particle as "the third victim", but that's not a great bit of comfort to the loved ones of the first two.

Plus it's not very catchy.

We need to arm all students.

AdolfOliverPanties: We need to arm all students.

only solution.  The only thing that stops a a Bad Guy with a gun is a Good Guy with a gun.

Relatively Obscure: Plus it's not very catchy.

There's a 14-year old kid in the hospital with a gunshot wound to the head, and probably a couple of very distraught parents or other family members, and I'm considering making a joke about it because I'm becoming so jaded.

I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?

AdolfOliverPanties: We need to arm all students.

Or, hear me out here, we could amputate all students' arms.  Give 'em back after they graduate.  I bet it's hard to hit things with, like, toe guns and stuff.

ambassador_ahab: AdolfOliverPanties: We need to arm all students.

only solution.  The only thing that stops a a Bad Guy with a gun is a Good Guy with a gun.

So... if LaPierre got his wish, in the best case scenario we would have the same number of victims here.

ox45tallboy: There's a 14-year old kid in the hospital with a gunshot wound to the head, and probably a couple of very distraught parents or other family members, and I'm considering making a joke about it because I'm becoming so jaded.

I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?

Without reducing the availability of weapons.. hell if I know, man.  Uhm.  Tele-schooling?

Relatively Obscure: ox45tallboy: With only two victims, I guess we don't have to reset the "mass shooting" clock.

If only we could find the particle that gives shootings mass.

I believe that's the "Godless" particle.  If only prayer were allowed in public schools...

wxboy: If only prayer were allowed in public schools...

Jesus would have used an AR-15 instead of an AK-47 because he was NOT a godless commie.

ox45tallboy: I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?

Not if you're not in favor of gun control.  That shiat needs to be heavily regulated.  Background checks and attention toward mental health are a necessity.

It won't stop these things from happening, but it could dramatically lower their frequency.

AdolfOliverPanties: ox45tallboy: I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?

Not if you're not in favor of gun control.  That shiat needs to be heavily regulated.  Background checks and attention toward mental health are a necessity.

It won't stop these things from happening, but it could dramatically lower their frequency.

Or at least regulate guns at least as much as you do cars.  Licenses and insurance.

texdent: We should just ban schools.

or give all the kids/teachers there scissors

jchic: AdolfOliverPanties: ox45tallboy: I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?

Not if you're not in favor of gun control.  That shiat needs to be heavily regulated.  Background checks and attention toward mental health are a necessity.

It won't stop these things from happening, but it could dramatically lower their frequency.

Or at least regulate guns at least as much as you do cars.  Licenses and insurance.

How exactly do you think that would stop things like this from happening?

EatenTheSun: jchic: AdolfOliverPanties: ox45tallboy: I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?

Not if you're not in favor of gun control.  That shiat needs to be heavily regulated.  Background checks and attention toward mental health are a necessity.

It won't stop these things from happening, but it could dramatically lower their frequency.

Or at least regulate guns at least as much as you do cars.  Licenses and insurance.

How exactly do you think that would stop things like this from happening?

Never said it would.  But then again how many automobile fatalities have been prevented by having operators restricted/licensed?  You can't say that X or Y would have prevented Z but you can decide that an item whose sole purpose is to destroy should be at least as regulated as many other items in our daily lives.

This would have been avoided if that hapless faculty member had had a Mossberg to defend himself.....

ox45tallboy: Relatively Obscure: If only we could find the particle that gives shootings mass.

The media seems to be identifying that particle as "the third victim", but that's not a great bit of comfort to the loved ones of the first two.

Yep, as with serial killers, you need three victims to count.

ambassador_ahab: AdolfOliverPanties: We need to arm all students.

only solution.  The only thing that stops a a Bad Guy with a gun is a Good Guy with a gun.

Like the off-duty armed cop that works as the school resource officer?

I think all gun threads at Fark should have to suddenly terminate after a 100 comment limit.

whidbey: I think all gun threads at Fark should have to suddenly terminate after a 100 comment limit.

No one reads any farther than that, they just skip ahead until their comment posts and start reading there.

ox45tallboy: I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

ban this

robsul82: Yep, as with serial killers, you need three victims to count.

I see the grieving parents of a first or second victim thinking to themselves, "Thank God he's only dead because someone didn't like him, and not because he was a random victim of a mentally unbalanced individual!"

Although to be honest, they might be relieved that they wouldn't have to deal with all the media sensationalism and posturing by political activists shouting all the wrong details about the tragedy for the next decade or six.

At this point I just sit back and listen the increasingly shrill cries from the gun nuts out there about this God-given right to go on shooting rampages.

Was an assault rifle used? If no, it's not news worthy.

1478 since Sandy Hook.

Also, did you know that 40% of felons obtained their guns at gun shows where there are often no background checks? You are Soft on Crime if you don't support changing the law to change this.

Atlanta? Says it all right there.

If only that guy had a gun, he would have been able to magically deflect the bullet from hitting the back of his head...

Fark Rye For Many Whores: ox45tallboy: I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

ban this
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If you can't use guns to shoot demon bulls in the face, what's the point of even having them?

theorellior: At this point I just sit back and listen the increasingly shrill cries from the gun nuts out there about this God-given right to go on shooting rampages.

-10/10

We should definitely arm teachers, because they are incompetent in every way. So we should trust them with guns. Cut their pay, though, because they don't deserve to be rich of us taxpayers.

That's it!  I've heard enough.  Tomorrow when my kids go to school each one of them is going to be carrying a handgun in their backpacks for protection.

The_Sponge: theorellior: At this point I just sit back and listen the increasingly shrill cries from the gun nuts out there about this God-given right to go on shooting rampages.

-10/10

More proof that gun nuts, are in, fact, nuts. Who have guns.

jchic: EatenTheSun: jchic: AdolfOliverPanties: ox45tallboy: I'm not in favor of gun control, but this is just getting ridiculous. Is there any solution out there which:

1.) Doesn't force everyone to hand in all of their guns
2.) Doesn't put kids further at risk by putting more guns in schools

and

3.) At least lowers the frequency and number of victims of gun violence.

I know there is no magic solution which will eliminate it, but how can we at least reduce it enough so that I'm not tempted to make jokes about a 14-year-old kid fighting for his life after being shot in the head while at school, exactly where he's supposed to be?

Not if you're not in favor of gun control.  That shiat needs to be heavily regulated.  Background checks and attention toward mental health are a necessity.

It won't stop these things from happening, but it could dramatically lower their frequency.

Or at least regulate guns at least as much as you do cars.  Licenses and insurance.

How exactly do you think that would stop things like this from happening?

Never said it would.  But then again how many automobile fatalities have been prevented by having operators restricted/licensed?  You can't say that X or Y would have prevented Z but you can decide that an item whose sole purpose is to destroy should be at least as regulated as many other items in our daily lives.

Why don't you come out to Los Angeles.

You're quite likely to get in an accident with an unlicensed illegal, who usually takes off after the accident so he won't get arrested for being unlicensed and uninsured.

They're deliberately doing something illegal.

As for guns, the cat is out of the bag.  Several more cats will be coming out of the same bag as 3D CNC machining picks up.  Anyone and everyone will be able to print weapons.  Go look around the Internet for plans to the AR-15 and AK-47.  They're out there.  I've seen them.  If you have a copy of the file, you can make one.

If you're upset about violence, well, me too.  But I'm not going to chase my tail with feelgood nonsense that makes no difference at all.

This is a mental health and celebrity issue.  Mental health needs lots and lots and lots of funding.  Second, the press has to be restrained from playing up the celebrity angle.  When they go into 24 hour coverage and turn the shooter into a celebrity, it encourages others.  How many school shooters can you name?  How many victims can you name?  Exactly.

The NRA could take the money it spends on hookers, blow and lobbying Congressmen and use it to provide discounted gun safes to gunowners with angsty teenage boys.

Or Congress could require all guns sold include a trigger lock.

Or they can make it a misdemeanor for you to have your gun used in a crime so that parents lock it up.

ghare: The_Sponge: theorellior: At this point I just sit back and listen the increasingly shrill cries from the gun nuts out there about this God-given right to go on shooting rampages.

-10/10

More proof that gun nuts, are in, fact, nuts. Who have guns.

Yeah, I'm a real nut case for calling out an obvious troll.

Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

Also; can we admit that guns are inanimate objects that wouldn't function without people?

It isn't a gun control issue; it's a PEOPLE control issue. Until you can ensure that everyone aren't going to become murderous sociopaths; you're just ignoring the actual issue

iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

Also; can we admit that guns are inanimate objects that wouldn't function without people?

It isn't a gun control issue; it's a PEOPLE control issue. Until you can ensure that everyone aren't going to become murderous sociopaths; you're just ignoring the actual issue

You sound like you want to arm criminals and terrorists... why do you hate Family Values and want to be Soft on Crime?

Do we have to count gang shootings, one-off incidents, and 1 or 2 victims as "school shootings" now? Because it's going to have to big newspaper to serve houston and LA..

This is just normal; there's no need to do anything, we can't do anything, and even if we did do something it wouldn't achieve anything.

ghare: The_Sponge: theorellior: At this point I just sit back and listen the increasingly shrill cries from the gun nuts out there about this God-given right to go on shooting rampages.

-10/10

More proof that gun nuts, are in, fact, nuts. Who have guns.

If that is proof to you, you must be simple.

iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

Also; can we admit that guns are inanimate objects that wouldn't function without people?

It isn't a gun control issue; it's a PEOPLE control issue. Until you can ensure that everyone aren't going to become murderous sociopaths; you're just ignoring the actual issue

As much as I hate the "people will commit these crimes with another weapon" defense, this kid could have easily walked up behind the guy and slit his throat. He had the motivation to do so and one of many tools to accomplish it.

iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

Also; can we admit that guns are inanimate objects that wouldn't function without people?

It isn't a gun control issue; it's a PEOPLE control issue. Until you can ensure that everyone aren't going to become murderous sociopaths; you're just ignoring the actual issue

Yeah buh-buh I don't want Obummer to raise my taxes any more. Welfare DEADBEATS.
HURRR.

When will we wake up and flood the school system with firearms?

Is it possible that the victims are of a certain... umm...  "demographic" that will allow the the derp brigade to claim this is gang related?

Because based on what I've been reading from the derpers, there is absolutely nothing that can ever be done about gang related shootings, and therefore they don't count.

Crocoduck: When will we wake up and flood the school system with firearms?

1986

These shootings were happening all along, they just get news coverage now because of the general level of public outrage.

iheartscotch: Seriously! Stop reporting this shiat! It just spawns copycats.

And here comes the Blame The Media crowd.....