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   Worlds most pretentious wedding cake baker refuses to create cake for same-sex couple

02 Feb 2013 07:46 AM   |   11863 clicks   |   KATU
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BarkingUnicorn     
Had one of these in Lakewood, Colorado, a while back.  The baker felt the Internet's wrath.  IDK if any legal consequences ensued.

Why is it always the bakers?  Are there no Christian butchers or candlestick makers?

02 Feb 2013 12:07 AM
mr_a    [TotalFark]  
Especially a baker named "Sweet Cakes".

02 Feb 2013 12:10 AM
BronyMedic     

BarkingUnicorn: Had one of these in Lakewood, Colorado, a while back.  The baker felt the Internet's wrath.  IDK if any legal consequences ensued.

Why is it always the bakers?  Are there no Christian butchers or candlestick makers?


I'm pretty sure that refusing to serve someone based on sexual orientation or because of your religious convictions is a violation of Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but IANAL, unless it's a "private club"

02 Feb 2013 06:50 AM
SpdrJay     
Go
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Different
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02 Feb 2013 07:48 AM
the opposite of charity is justice     
There are straight people working in the wedding business?

02 Feb 2013 07:49 AM
orbister     

mr_a: Especially a baker named "Sweet Cakes Cheeks".


Camped that up for you.

02 Feb 2013 07:49 AM
ReverendJasen     
Whether he broke any laws or not, I thnk we can safely agree he's gigantic douchebag.

02 Feb 2013 07:49 AM
IlGreven     

SpdrJay: Go
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Your previous incarnation told Rosa Parks to walk.

02 Feb 2013 07:50 AM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener     
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I opened this article thinking that he was going to have a No Fear or Tapout shirt.

My powers of prediction are a tad off this morning, it would seem.

02 Feb 2013 07:50 AM
citizenj     
Done in two.

02 Feb 2013 07:51 AM
Active introvert     
With all the evil in this world, why get so hung up over people who just want to love someone. Geesh

02 Feb 2013 07:51 AM
jso2897     

BronyMedic: BarkingUnicorn: Had one of these in Lakewood, Colorado, a while back.  The baker felt the Internet's wrath.  IDK if any legal consequences ensued.

Why is it always the bakers?  Are there no Christian butchers or candlestick makers?

I'm pretty sure that refusing to serve someone based on sexual orientation or because of your religious convictions is a violation of Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but IANAL, unless it's a "private club"


No. Federal law does not treat sexual orientation as a protected class (if it did, there could be no "DOMA"). Oregon law, however, does, so it's irrelevant.
Cue all the righties who will defend this lawbreaking criminal's "religious freedom".

02 Feb 2013 07:54 AM
PonceAlyosha     
Isn't that illegal, given that you can not deny use of public accommodations based on sex?

02 Feb 2013 07:54 AM
LoneWolf343     

Active introvert: With all the evil in this world, why get so hung up over people who just want to love someone. Geesh


Where do you think the evil comes from?

02 Feb 2013 07:55 AM
shotglasss     
Like the sign says, "We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

He refused service based on religious beliefs. Now you libs want the state to attack him and his business for that religious belief? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

02 Feb 2013 07:55 AM
jso2897     

SpdrJay: Go
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Bakery


No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

02 Feb 2013 07:56 AM
LoneWolf343     

LoneWolf343: Active introvert: With all the evil in this world, why get so hung up over people who just want to love someone. Geesh

Where do you think the evil comes from?


Hmm, methinks I should have worded that more clearly. I meant to imply that evil comes from people like those who hate gays, not the other way around. It's early.

02 Feb 2013 07:56 AM
jso2897     

shotglasss: Like the sign says, "We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

He refused service based on religious beliefs. Now you libs want the state to attack him and his business for that religious belief? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?


Whatever happened to the "conservative" viewpoint that lawbreaking should be prosecuted? Just think of him as an illegal alien - you know, a person who is breaking the law. Then you'll feel better.

02 Feb 2013 07:57 AM
SpdrJay     

IlGreven: SpdrJay: Go
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Your previous incarnation told Rosa Parks to walk.


Yes.
Because public transportation and a privately owned business are exactly the same thing.
/sarcasm

02 Feb 2013 07:58 AM
Matthew Keene     
He has ear rings. A man with ear rings! That would have gotten him refused service thirty years ago.

02 Feb 2013 08:00 AM
BronyMedic     

jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.


Isn't it a civil matter, not criminal?

02 Feb 2013 08:00 AM
PonceAlyosha     

SpdrJay: IlGreven: SpdrJay: Go
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Your previous incarnation told Rosa Parks to walk.

Yes.
Because public transportation and a privately owned business are exactly the same thing.
/sarcasm


Fpr our purposes, legally, yeah, they are. Both are public accommodations. A huge portion of the civil rights movement was about this stuff. Crack open a history book.

02 Feb 2013 08:01 AM
ajgeek    [TotalFark]  

jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.


Illegal aliens are prosecuted now!? But where are the Job Creators going to come up with 11 million people to do jobs 50-60% of market value!?

02 Feb 2013 08:01 AM
shotglasss     

jso2897: shotglasss: Like the sign says, "We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

He refused service based on religious beliefs. Now you libs want the state to attack him and his business for that religious belief? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

Whatever happened to the "conservative" viewpoint that lawbreaking should be prosecuted? Just think of him as an illegal alien - you know, a person who is breaking the law. Then you'll feel better.


Why do I have to pretend he's something other than a guy trying to make a living and honor his God? You want to turn him into something he's not for what reason?

And if you don't like the way he runs his business, go somewhere else.

02 Feb 2013 08:03 AM
leevis     

ajgeek: jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

Illegal aliens are prosecuted now!? But where are the Job Creators going to come up with 11 million people to do jobs 50-60% of market value!?


The unemployment office?

02 Feb 2013 08:03 AM
phartman     
So what if someone was just an jackass and the baker figured 'fark you, I ain't selling to you because you're a jackass.", would that be legal?

Or just impolite?

/doesn't live in the US.

02 Feb 2013 08:03 AM
ReverendJasen     

shotglasss: What ever happened to the separation of church and state?


You may want to request a refund on that Constitutional Law GED.

02 Feb 2013 08:03 AM
PonceAlyosha     

phartman: So what if someone was just an jackass and the baker figured 'fark you, I ain't selling to you because you're a jackass.", would that be legal?

Or just impolite?

/doesn't live in the US.


Legal and impolite.

02 Feb 2013 08:04 AM
Serious Black    [TotalFark]  
This is the kind of issue that really makes me pray for the Supreme Court to find that sexual orientation is a quasi-suspect class in about five months.

02 Feb 2013 08:04 AM
Bungles     
Nice little business you have there.

Would be a pity if the Internet decided to destroy it.

/do not piss off the lesbians
//lipstick lesbians are the backbone of the wedding planning industry

02 Feb 2013 08:05 AM
jso2897     

BronyMedic: jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

Isn't it a civil matter, not criminal?


OK, then: "Litigate against the tort-committer." Is your inner pedant satisfied now?

02 Feb 2013 08:05 AM
Matthew Keene     
Pulling that shiat in Portland, Oregon is a bad move.  He'll be out of business by summer.

02 Feb 2013 08:06 AM
jso2897     

shotglasss: jso2897: shotglasss: Like the sign says, "We have the right to refuse service to anyone".

He refused service based on religious beliefs. Now you libs want the state to attack him and his business for that religious belief? What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

Whatever happened to the "conservative" viewpoint that lawbreaking should be prosecuted? Just think of him as an illegal alien - you know, a person who is breaking the law. Then you'll feel better.

Why do I have to pretend he's something other than a guy trying to make a living and honor his God? You want to turn him into something he's not for what reason?

And if you don't like the way he runs his business, go somewhere else.


It's 2012. Arguments against anti-discrimination law lost in the 1960s. Do you really think you could win that battle in todays world, when it was lost then?

02 Feb 2013 08:07 AM
phenn     

SpdrJay: Go
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Bakery


Yes. Absolutely. Free market answer. Doesn't mean the guy's not a complete assbanana, though.

02 Feb 2013 08:07 AM
ReverendJasen     

leevis: The unemployment office?


pshaw.  Those entitled slackers would want minimum wage and other such nonsense.

02 Feb 2013 08:07 AM
eiger     
shotglasss: Why do I have to pretend he's something other than a guy trying to make a living and honor his God? You want to turn him into something he's not for what reason?

And if you don't like the way he runs his business, go somewhere else.


Why didn't blacks in the South in the '50s and '60s realize your insight! They could have just gone elsewhere with their business rather than attempting to change the law to force business owners to serve them. I'm sure that would have worked.

02 Feb 2013 08:08 AM
PonceAlyosha     

eiger: Why didn't blacks in the South in the '50s and '60s realize your insight


Or the ones who who were denied seats on trains even though they had they purchased legally, or those who got turned away from a reserved hotel room because they neglected to send notice of their negrocity ahead of time.

02 Feb 2013 08:10 AM
StashMonster     
Sounds simple enough to me - he is breaking state law. Refusing to bake a cake for someone is not "practising a religion".

02 Feb 2013 08:11 AM
Active introvert     
Amusing how people say things like "but the bible says it's wrong" and the guy's got a tat on his arm which the bible also says is wrong. Either follow it or don't but you can't pick and chose

02 Feb 2013 08:12 AM
Serious Black    [TotalFark]  

jso2897: BronyMedic: jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

Isn't it a civil matter, not criminal?

OK, then: "Litigate against the tort-committer." Is your inner pedant satisfied now?


I know I can be a bit of a pedant sometimes, but damn, there are some farking pedantic ass mongoloids in the world today. As an example, America is not a democracy. It is a democratically-elected representative Constitutionally-limited federal bicameral presidential republic. Or so I was told about a week ago.

02 Feb 2013 08:12 AM
jso2897     

eiger: shotglasss: Why do I have to pretend he's something other than a guy trying to make a living and honor his God? You want to turn him into something he's not for what reason?

And if you don't like the way he runs his business, go somewhere else.

Why didn't blacks in the South in the '50s and '60s realize your insight! They could have just gone elsewhere with their business rather than attempting to change the law to force business owners to serve them. I'm sure that would have worked.


It's kind of hilarious that these 12 year old jackasses think anti-discrimination law is some radical idea that's on the table for debate.

02 Feb 2013 08:13 AM
PonceAlyosha     

jso2897: It's kind of hilarious that these 12 year old jackasses think anti-discrimination law is some radical idea that's on the table for debate.


12 year old jackasses such as Senator Rand Paul.

02 Feb 2013 08:14 AM
jso2897     

Serious Black: jso2897: BronyMedic: jso2897: No. Prosecute the lawbreaking criminal - just like if he was an illegal alien, or a gang-banger, or somebody else you don't like.

Isn't it a civil matter, not criminal?

OK, then: "Litigate against the tort-committer." Is your inner pedant satisfied now?

I know I can be a bit of a pedant sometimes, but damn, there are some farking pedantic ass mongoloids in the world today. As an example, America is not a democracy. It is a democratically-elected representative Constitutionally-limited federal bicameral presidential republic. Or so I was told about a week ago.


Yeah, I know, and I didn't mean to be snotty. I suppose I should always strive to be the best kind of correct, but sometimes I go with the colorful language. Call it a weakness.

02 Feb 2013 08:15 AM
Bungles     

Active introvert: Amusing how people say things like "but the bible says it's wrong" and the guy's got a tat on his arm which the bible also says is wrong. Either follow it or don't but you can't pick and chose


You seem to be under the impression that their beliefs are based on the Bible, rather than the Bible being used to justify their specific beliefs.

02 Feb 2013 08:16 AM
jso2897     

PonceAlyosha: jso2897: It's kind of hilarious that these 12 year old jackasses think anti-discrimination law is some radical idea that's on the table for debate.

12 year old jackasses such as Senator Rand Paul.


A perfect example of a (mentally and emotionally) 12 year old jackass.

02 Feb 2013 08:16 AM
Fuggin Bizzy     
World's most pretentious same-sex couple refuses to find a different bakery.

They weren't interested in a cake, they were interested in a court case/news story. By all means, boycott the bakery with friends and sympathizers, ruin his reputation on Yelp or whatever, but running and tattling to the state is douchelordish.

02 Feb 2013 08:16 AM
PonceAlyosha     

Fuggin Bizzy: World's most pretentious same-sex couple refuses to find a different bakery.

They weren't interested in a cake, they were interested in a court case/news story. By all means, boycott the bakery with friends and sympathizers, ruin his reputation on Yelp or whatever, but running and tattling to the state is douchelordish.


World's most pretentious woman refuses to get in the back of the bus.

02 Feb 2013 08:17 AM
shotglasss     

ReverendJasen: shotglasss: What ever happened to the separation of church and state?

You may want to request a refund on that Constitutional Law GED.


I hear lefties with the same Constitutional Law GED scream about separation of church and state all the time. Go be a douchbag over with them, junior.

02 Feb 2013 08:17 AM
jso2897     

Fuggin Bizzy: World's most pretentious same-sex couple refuses to find a different bakery.

They weren't interested in a cake, they were interested in a court case/news story. By all means, boycott the bakery with friends and sympathizers, ruin his reputation on Yelp or whatever, but running and tattling to the state is douchelordish.


Hope you take that attitude toward the next mugger who smashes your head in and takes your wallet - because, you know - running to the State when people break the law is so douchey.

02 Feb 2013 08:18 AM
Bungles     

Fuggin Bizzy: World's most pretentious same-sex couple refuses to find a different bakery.

They weren't interested in a cake, they were interested in a court case/news story. By all means, boycott the bakery with friends and sympathizers, ruin his reputation on Yelp or whatever, but running and tattling to the state is douchelordish.


Given they had previously used the company for a parent's wedding cake, it seems that they're regular customers until he found out they were lesbians.

So it looks like you're wittering nonsense out your arse-flap.

02 Feb 2013 08:19 AM
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