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calbert    [TotalFark]  
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23 Feb 2013 10:39 AM
GAT_00     
Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

23 Feb 2013 11:22 AM
MaudlinMutantMollusk    [TotalFark]  
Think I'll watch Flags of Our Fathers again

23 Feb 2013 11:27 AM
coco ebert     
Well that sounds kinda imperialisty.

23 Feb 2013 11:46 AM
Red Shirt Blues    [TotalFark]  

GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!


It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

23 Feb 2013 12:17 PM
One Bad Apple    [TotalFark]  
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And another 37,500 years past that ....

23 Feb 2013 12:18 PM
GAT_00     

Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.


Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

23 Feb 2013 12:25 PM
Red Shirt Blues    [TotalFark]  

GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.


No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.

23 Feb 2013 12:36 PM
vpb    [TotalFark]  

Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.


That's kind of what "staged" means, not that it was literally on a stage.  It wasn't the first flag raised.

23 Feb 2013 12:39 PM
MacEnvy    [TotalFark]  

Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.


It doesn't matter. If something involves someone being within 10 yards of a gun, GAT is going to spin it as negative and indicative of societal decline, and declare everyone involved a barbarian mouthbreather manipulated by shadowy forces.

23 Feb 2013 12:41 PM
Red Shirt Blues    [TotalFark]  

vpb: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.

That's kind of what "staged" means, not that it was literally on a stage.  It wasn't the first flag raised.


That's not what staged means. The photographers had no knowledge it was going to happen. The flag was being rplaced. Yeah if the a Marine publicist said hey guys get up there and set up some shots...yeah staged. MacArthur having his Leyte landing picture filmed repeatedly, yeah...staged.

23 Feb 2013 12:43 PM
One Bad Apple    [TotalFark]  
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Another "staged" flag raising for GAT

23 Feb 2013 12:44 PM
vossiewulf    [TotalFark]  
Staged also implies the battle was over, which it wasn't, it was still raging and would for weeks to come. Only three of the six guys who raised that flag survived that battle.

23 Feb 2013 12:45 PM
GAT_00     

Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.


Amazing how pissed off you can get for pointing out that a picture was staged.

23 Feb 2013 12:56 PM
Elegy    [TotalFark]  
APPROVES
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23 Feb 2013 01:10 PM
sweet-daddy-2     
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Bism arck_Sea_(CVE-95)

Staged or not, let's honor the men who were there, such as my dad.
His ship ( above link ) was the last aircraft carrier lost in WWII and a lot of good men with her.

23 Feb 2013 01:17 PM
SpikeStrip     
love that suribachi sauce.

23 Feb 2013 01:29 PM
JasonOfOrillia    [TotalFark]  

SpikeStrip: love that suribachi sauce.


Yeah, I put that sh*t on everything.

23 Feb 2013 02:50 PM
J. Frank Parnell     
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23 Feb 2013 02:51 PM
SN1987a goes boom     

vpb: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.

That's kind of what "staged" means, not that it was literally on a stage.  It wasn't the first flag raised.


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23 Feb 2013 02:53 PM
Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo     
With any luck, we're fifty years away from never again needing a Marine Corps.

23 Feb 2013 02:53 PM
Schroedinger's Glory Hole     
Letting old people get weepy over this shiat is the reason we have to waste ten minutes before every football game for our red, white, and blue circle jerk.

23 Feb 2013 02:54 PM
INeedAName     

One Bad Apple: [www.unmuseum.org image 340x357]


Another "staged" flag raising for GAT


Im not sure thats the counter example you want to use. Pretty sure they packed the flag, pole, and camera just so that photo could be snapped. That was about as staged as it gets. Unless you are hinting at the sound stage conspiracy theory, in which case, lets just not add to the stupidity.

23 Feb 2013 02:54 PM
Ionessa     
My paternal grandfather was actually standing behind the camera when this photo was taken (not the photographer though.)

/CSB, and stuff like that.

23 Feb 2013 02:55 PM
jim32rr    [TotalFark]  
Salute.

23 Feb 2013 02:56 PM
macadamnut     
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23 Feb 2013 02:56 PM
jim32rr    [TotalFark]  

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: Letting old people get weepy over this shiat is the reason we have to waste ten minutes before every football game for our red, white, and blue circle jerk.


Not Smart or Funny, what happened to the Dumbass button?

23 Feb 2013 02:58 PM
Loucifer     
500 years at least

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23 Feb 2013 02:58 PM
peewinkle     
Heh, usually Wikipedia photos are HUGE.  The one historically important image that should be and it's slightly larger than a thumbnail.

/citation needed
//my grandfather was lost in the battle

23 Feb 2013 03:00 PM
lifeboat     

Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.


Here's one account from a different angle - the Coastie that allegedly gave them the famous flag.

23 Feb 2013 03:03 PM
vicejay    [TotalFark]  

vpb: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.

That's kind of what "staged" means, not that it was literally on a stage.  It wasn't the first flag raised.


This wasn't exactly on a sound stage (no pun intended) after the fact. After they raised the flag, three of the six men in the photo were killed in the ongoing battle.

23 Feb 2013 03:07 PM
macadamnut     

jim32rr:
Not Smart or Funny, what happened to the Dumbass button?



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23 Feb 2013 03:07 PM
Featured Partner     
Right up there with Stalingrad, Okinawa, an Tarawa as extreme, primal, bloodshed. I cannot even imagine going through that.

23 Feb 2013 03:09 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus    [TotalFark]  

macadamnut: jim32rr:
Not Smart or Funny, what happened to the Dumbass button?


haha declaring war in a thread honoring a battle.

Even your meta is meta

23 Feb 2013 03:11 PM
Ontos     

GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.


You're a moron.

23 Feb 2013 03:11 PM
LDM90     

peewinkle: Heh, usually Wikipedia photos are HUGE.  The one historically important image that should be and it's slightly larger than a thumbnail.

/citation needed
//my grandfather was lost in the battle


Did they ever find him?

/sorry, had to

23 Feb 2013 03:18 PM
Third Leg     

GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.


No. As I recall from reading Flags of our Fathers, the photo of the first flag-raising (it's in TFA) was staged. The photographer had the dude in the foreground pose, etc etc. The second flag was just an impromptu replacement, it wasn't a photo op -- the guy who took the photo almost missed it, and iirc didn't even look through the viewfinder when he took the shot. He noticed the flag going up, and only had enough time to point his camera in the general direction and snap the shutter.

23 Feb 2013 03:18 PM
MayoBoy     

Ontos: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

You're a moron.


I think what he means is that it wasn't the first flag raising on Mount Suribachi.  It was done after the fact and not by the original fighters but rather by some Marines laying wire.

In the mean time, here's a nice song about one of the second group of flag raisers and how we didn't treat them any better when they came back than we do now: http://www.myspace.com/music/player?s id=80448954&ac=now

23 Feb 2013 03:22 PM
p51d007     
My grandfather, a member of the 5th Marine Division, was on Iwo Jima, Red Beach.  He passed away in the early 70's.  What those men went through, no one should have to endure.  My mom said that after he returned in late '45, he was never the same.  He left, as a square jawed Marine, but came back changed.
For months after, my mom remembers many a night of hearing him screaming in his sleep.  Because of a Jap mortar attack, he lost the hearing in his right ear, shrapnel wounds to his right side that killed a couple buddies.  Until the day he died, you NEVER walked up behind him unannounced and tapped him on the shoulder...he would turn around swinging.
The only lighthearted moment (he never said how he got it), was a officers sword he came back with.  When asked, he said he captured the officer, told him a joke, and the guy laughed to death.
Gramps, where ever you are, SEMPER FI!

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23 Feb 2013 03:28 PM
Red Shirt Blues    [TotalFark]  

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: Letting old people get weepy over this shiat is the reason we have to waste ten minutes before every football game for our red, white, and blue circle jerk.


GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.

Amazing how pissed off you can get for pointing out that a picture was staged.

You really need a dictionary.


23 Feb 2013 03:38 PM
Schroedinger's Glory Hole     
I have a lot of trouble believing a "No shiat there I was" story from 70 years ago.  I know plenty of dudes from my unit that reclassed from 11B to VH1Storyteller as soon as they got home.  Even with only five years passing, those stories get more and more extravagant.  I wonder how many grandchildren fawn over a POG without even knowing.

23 Feb 2013 03:40 PM
ArcadianRefugee     
So James Forrestal was a psychic?

23 Feb 2013 03:54 PM
shotglasss     

macadamnut: jim32rr:
Not Smart or Funny, what happened to the Dumbass button?


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Heh heh heh heh...

23 Feb 2013 03:57 PM
Superjew     
Call him drunken Ira Hayes, he won't answer anymore.
Not the whisky-drinking Indian nor the marine that went to war.

23 Feb 2013 03:59 PM
Kittypie070     
I say five million years.

23 Feb 2013 04:00 PM
i upped my meds-up yours     

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: With any luck, we're fifty years away from never again needing a Marine Corps.


The problem is that a country that doesn't cultivate murderous fanaticism, at least in a small elite group, tends to get picked on by countries that do.

23 Feb 2013 04:04 PM
Nightshade50     

GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Red Shirt Blues: GAT_00: Happy Staged Propaganda Today!

It wasn't staged moran. But then you're GAT so you probably already knew that.

Yes it was.  That famous picture was staged after the fact.

No you moran. The first flag was taken down on orders as the Marines wanted to keep it for themselves and not let a politician get his hands on it. It is now on display in the Marine Corp museum. A second flag was brought up the hill. The flag came from an LST and was much larger than the first. A section of drain pipe was found and the flag attached. A simple "hey guys lend a hand" was called out and the six flag raisers answered. Rosenthal lucked out as he turned and took the shot. There is even a color film of it. Nothing about it was staged. Just six Marines  following an order. It was even acknowledged in that bad John Wayne film in the opening credits that it was the second flag raising. Nothing was staged. Rosenthal was dogged for years and accused of posing the Marines in the scene. It just wasn't so.

Amazing how pissed off you can get for pointing out that a picture was staged.


Yeah keep telling yourself that and it will become true, in your own land of make believe.

23 Feb 2013 04:06 PM
CluelessMoron     

calbert: [farm9.staticflickr.com image 500x452]


Damn, that's brilliant.  I've been sitting here giggling for at least two minutes now.

23 Feb 2013 04:06 PM
peewinkle     

LDM90: peewinkle: Heh, usually Wikipedia photos are HUGE.  The one historically important image that should be and it's slightly larger than a thumbnail.

/citation needed
//my grandfather was lost in the battle

Did they ever find him?

/sorry, had to


I'm thick-skinned so no worries, but no.

23 Feb 2013 04:11 PM
albatros183     
It's CORE, COOOORRRREEEEE! I don't understand why you lamebrains can't get this through you're libtard brains!

/Yes it was staged, but also apparently really happened if not quite in the same way
//DERTFA

23 Feb 2013 04:32 PM
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