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   MIT officials are now under fire for not going full retard on yesterdays' bogus shooter claim

24 Feb 2013 12:57 PM   |   8672 clicks   |   Boston Herald
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WTF Indeed    [TotalFark]  
You mean like Fark did?

24 Feb 2013 11:31 AM
ZAZ    [TotalFark]  
John DiFava, MIT's campus police chief

DiFava used to run the Massachusetts State Police before taking a lower stress job in 2001.

24 Feb 2013 11:38 AM
man metaphysical     
The good guys dress in black, remember that

24 Feb 2013 12:58 PM
Earl of Chives     
$100 bucks says the perp uses the "I was only testing the system" defense.

24 Feb 2013 01:01 PM
ladyfortuna     
When AU had their false alarm in ~2008 (nerf stuff, Humans Vs. Zombies game), someone I knew was a secretary there at the time, and she had a security guy charge into the room, gun drawn, looking for the 'shooter'. She said it was absolutely terrifying. From what she described of that and just general panic by the professors, it sounded to me like they didn't have a very good tactical plan in place. Maybe MIT has a similar problem but with emphasis on lack of tactical...

I like my school's plan; when the alert goes out, barricade the door, and if the guy gets in, a select group is to pile on and attempt to take his gun in order to protect the rest of the students... though hopefully I'll never see this implemented.

24 Feb 2013 01:03 PM
Agent Smiths Laugh     

man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that


There are no good guys.

24 Feb 2013 01:03 PM
Im_Gumby    [TotalFark]  

ZAZ: John DiFava, MIT's campus police chief

DiFava used to run the Massachusetts State Police before taking a lower stress job in 2001.


Does he make dispatch call him in Car Ramrod?

24 Feb 2013 01:03 PM
enry    [TotalFark]  

Agent Smiths Laugh: man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that

There are no good guys.


The good guys have guns.

24 Feb 2013 01:05 PM
Abox     
In this day and age you have to decide in advance if you are going to go full retard or not.  Any institution that cares about official public opinion needs to go full retard all the time.

24 Feb 2013 01:06 PM
iheartscotch     
Yep; they shouldn't have taken the time to ascertain the nature of the report and sent 37 random students running; screaming about an active shooter. That would have been a much better reaction.

/ when in reality it was probably an elderly lady with an umbrella; or a nerd larping

24 Feb 2013 01:06 PM
GBB     

Im_Gumby: ZAZ: John DiFava, MIT's campus police chief

DiFava used to run the Massachusetts State Police before taking a lower stress job in 2001.

Does he make dispatch radio call him in Car Ramrod?


24 Feb 2013 01:07 PM
Jon iz teh kewl     
maybe because they didn't wear their MIT shirt to the election booth like a proper gentleman

24 Feb 2013 01:07 PM
Elvis Presleys Death Throne     
Didn't the dumbass cops realize you can't have a school shooting on a Saturday?  I want to see how many of those clowns were Deval Patrick campaign donors with no law enforcement experience.

24 Feb 2013 01:08 PM
miniflea     

ladyfortuna: When AU had their false alarm in ~2008 (nerf stuff, Humans Vs. Zombies game), someone I knew was a secretary there at the time, and she had a security guy charge into the room, gun drawn, looking for the 'shooter'. She said it was absolutely terrifying. From what she described of that and just general panic by the professors, it sounded to me like they didn't have a very good tactical plan in place. Maybe MIT has a similar problem but with emphasis on lack of tactical...

I like my school's plan; when the alert goes out, barricade the door, and if the guy gets in, a select group is to pile on and attempt to take his gun in order to protect the rest of the students... though hopefully I'll never see this implemented.


That better than my school's plan. They essentially told us to drop everything and run away, every man for himself.

24 Feb 2013 01:08 PM
Clemkadidlefark     

Agent Smiths Laugh: man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that

There are no good guys.


"Fill yore hands, you son of a biatch ..."

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24 Feb 2013 01:10 PM
Giltric     

miniflea: ladyfortuna: When AU had their false alarm in ~2008 (nerf stuff, Humans Vs. Zombies game), someone I knew was a secretary there at the time, and she had a security guy charge into the room, gun drawn, looking for the 'shooter'. She said it was absolutely terrifying. From what she described of that and just general panic by the professors, it sounded to me like they didn't have a very good tactical plan in place. Maybe MIT has a similar problem but with emphasis on lack of tactical...

I like my school's plan; when the alert goes out, barricade the door, and if the guy gets in, a select group is to pile on and attempt to take his gun in order to protect the rest of the students... though hopefully I'll never see this implemented.

That better than my school's plan. They essentially told us to drop everything and run away, every man for himself.



It is better to be a moving target than a stationary one no matter which side is shooting.

24 Feb 2013 01:10 PM
SpdrJay     
They should have nuked the site from orbit. Only way to be sure...

24 Feb 2013 01:12 PM
LoneWolf343     

Giltric: miniflea: ladyfortuna: When AU had their false alarm in ~2008 (nerf stuff, Humans Vs. Zombies game), someone I knew was a secretary there at the time, and she had a security guy charge into the room, gun drawn, looking for the 'shooter'. She said it was absolutely terrifying. From what she described of that and just general panic by the professors, it sounded to me like they didn't have a very good tactical plan in place. Maybe MIT has a similar problem but with emphasis on lack of tactical...

I like my school's plan; when the alert goes out, barricade the door, and if the guy gets in, a select group is to pile on and attempt to take his gun in order to protect the rest of the students... though hopefully I'll never see this implemented.

That better than my school's plan. They essentially told us to drop everything and run away, every man for himself.


It is better to be a moving target than a stationary one no matter which side is shooting.


I rather be a well-protected target. Moving is what you do when you don't have cover.

24 Feb 2013 01:15 PM
skinink     
What's worse, the first alert sent to MIT students was, "Hello World!"

24 Feb 2013 01:18 PM
rjakobi     
1/31/2008

Never forget, Massachusetts.

24 Feb 2013 01:19 PM
Bslim     
After RTFA I would like to assume that if the prankster was an MITer he/she was safely hidden behind six or seven proxies.

24 Feb 2013 01:19 PM
Giltric     

LoneWolf343: Giltric: miniflea: ladyfortuna: When AU had their false alarm in ~2008 (nerf stuff, Humans Vs. Zombies game), someone I knew was a secretary there at the time, and she had a security guy charge into the room, gun drawn, looking for the 'shooter'. She said it was absolutely terrifying. From what she described of that and just general panic by the professors, it sounded to me like they didn't have a very good tactical plan in place. Maybe MIT has a similar problem but with emphasis on lack of tactical...

I like my school's plan; when the alert goes out, barricade the door, and if the guy gets in, a select group is to pile on and attempt to take his gun in order to protect the rest of the students... though hopefully I'll never see this implemented.

That better than my school's plan. They essentially told us to drop everything and run away, every man for himself.


It is better to be a moving target than a stationary one no matter which side is shooting.

I rather be a well-protected target. Moving is what you do when you don't have cover.


How well did that work out for Chos barricaded behind a locked door victims?

24 Feb 2013 01:20 PM
Jon iz teh kewl     

skinink: What's worse, the first alert sent to MIT students was, "Hello World!"


at least they figured out the compiler.  should have used -O3 to get the message out faster

24 Feb 2013 01:21 PM
ZAZ    [TotalFark]  
ladyfortuna

At least MIT knows better than to go into lockdown over a LARP. Campus police are used to people with fake guns.

24 Feb 2013 01:25 PM
Slam1263     
It's MIT, full retard, full time.

24 Feb 2013 01:27 PM
give me doughnuts     

Giltric: How well did that work out for Chos barricaded behind a locked door victims?


It worked pretty well for him, since he was the guy that chained the door shut.

24 Feb 2013 01:27 PM
OhioUGrad     

Im_Gumby: ZAZ: John DiFava, MIT's campus police chief

DiFava used to run the Massachusetts State Police before taking a lower stress job in 2001.

Does he make dispatch call him in Car Ramrod?


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24 Feb 2013 01:27 PM
LordOfThePings     

rjakobi: 1/31/2008

Never forget, Massachusetts.


Why, what happened on the one-year anniversary of Mooninite Madness?

24 Feb 2013 01:28 PM
iheartscotch     

Clemkadidlefark: Agent Smiths Laugh: man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that

There are no good guys.

"Fill yore hands, you son of a biatch ..."


I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man.

/ How many men have you shot since you became a marshal, Mr. Cogburn?

24 Feb 2013 01:33 PM
ladyfortuna     

ZAZ: ladyfortuna

At least MIT knows better than to go into lockdown over a LARP. Campus police are used to people with fake guns.


Hey man, I'll never defend that school, I go to the one across the street that doesn't charge $25k PER SEMESTER. Also they're both pretty small schools, so with all due respect, no, they're not. They're probably only used to the SCA folks who show up on Fridays.

24 Feb 2013 01:35 PM
Billy Bathsalt    [TotalFark]  
Hello?  Caltech?

24 Feb 2013 01:38 PM
Larva Lump     
LordOfThePings

Why, what happened on the one-year anniversary of Mooninite Madness?

That's not a hair question.

24 Feb 2013 01:39 PM
rvabenji     
In fairness an hour is an odd amount of time to wait before sending the report. I could understand if they waited ten minutes so a cop could check out the building first or if they quickly identified it as bogus and never sent a warning, but if it was credible enough to send a warning why wait an hour?

24 Feb 2013 01:47 PM
borg    [TotalFark]  

man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that


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Yes, they do.

why is his own reflection in the sunglasses?

24 Feb 2013 02:02 PM
tenpoundsofcheese     
Nothing wrong with sending out a notice that "we have an unconfirmed report that.."

24 Feb 2013 02:04 PM
Abox     

borg: man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that

[content7.flixster.com image 180x252]

Yes, they do.

why is his own reflection in the sunglasses?


Because he's Chuck Norris.

24 Feb 2013 02:05 PM
DeathByGeekSquad     

Abox: borg: man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that

[content7.flixster.com image 180x252]

Yes, they do.

why is his own reflection in the sunglasses?

Because he's Chuck Norris.


His glasses reflect the future so his victims can see what's going to happen to them.

24 Feb 2013 02:30 PM
ciberido     

man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that


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I'm sorry.  You won't remember that.

24 Feb 2013 02:37 PM
Princess Ryans Knickers     
If only there had been all that peacefulness like those dozen shootings yesterday across the country!

24 Feb 2013 02:45 PM
Jon iz teh kewl     

Princess Ryans Knickers: If only there had been all that peacefulness like those dozen shootings yesterday across the country!


buy a gun

24 Feb 2013 02:52 PM
heypete     

Giltric: How well did that work out for Chos barricaded behind a locked door victims?


Concealment != cover.

24 Feb 2013 02:55 PM
fknra     
i'm sorry but with all the brains and shiat that can go boom, MIT is not a place that should be on anyone's target list...

/would be the best headline evar
//giant robots controlled by students strangle shooter

24 Feb 2013 02:59 PM
Benjamin Orr     
So somebody just needed more study time. Better than somebody freaking over a shovel or cardboard tube I guess.

24 Feb 2013 03:36 PM
Reverend Monkeypants     
NOT PARANOID ENOUGH?

"We gotta keep the pressure on these people and make sure they know what could happen!"
(has heard that said, is a little more dead inside now)

...also something about smart assed MIT students

24 Feb 2013 03:57 PM
Saborlas    [TotalFark]  
NOTICE: The Boston Herald is neither an unbiased nor a reliable source of news. Their "articles" are written at the fifth grade level, with intent on causing a negative emotional reaction in people unburdened by excessive education.

24 Feb 2013 04:18 PM
BalugaJoe    [TotalFark]  
must be a mid-term he didnt want to take.

24 Feb 2013 04:42 PM
RubberBabyBuggyBumpers     

Jon iz teh kewl: skinink: What's worse, the first alert sent to MIT students was, "Hello World!"

at least they figured out the compiler.  should have used -O3 to get the message out faster


-O is enough in most cases. Sometimes -O3 can wind up slowing things, raising register pressure, generating spill code, taking long to compiler, yadda yadda. Nobody needs that. Nobody.

24 Feb 2013 05:17 PM
Oldiron_79     

borg: man metaphysical: The good guys dress in black, remember that



Yes, they do.

why is his own reflection in the sunglasses?


Because he is CHUCK FARKING NORRIS

24 Feb 2013 06:32 PM
kriegsgeist     

Giltric: LoneWolf343: Giltric: miniflea: ladyfortuna: When AU had their false alarm in ~2008 (nerf stuff, Humans Vs. Zombies game), someone I knew was a secretary there at the time, and she had a security guy charge into the room, gun drawn, looking for the 'shooter'. She said it was absolutely terrifying. From what she described of that and just general panic by the professors, it sounded to me like they didn't have a very good tactical plan in place. Maybe MIT has a similar problem but with emphasis on lack of tactical...

I like my school's plan; when the alert goes out, barricade the door, and if the guy gets in, a select group is to pile on and attempt to take his gun in order to protect the rest of the students... though hopefully I'll never see this implemented.

That better than my school's plan. They essentially told us to drop everything and run away, every man for himself.


It is better to be a moving target than a stationary one no matter which side is shooting.

I rather be a well-protected target. Moving is what you do when you don't have cover.

How well did that work out for Chos barricaded behind a locked door victims?


concealment != cover

24 Feb 2013 07:45 PM
LoneWolf343     

Giltric: LoneWolf343: Giltric: miniflea: ladyfortuna: When AU had their false alarm in ~2008 (nerf stuff, Humans Vs. Zombies game), someone I knew was a secretary there at the time, and she had a security guy charge into the room, gun drawn, looking for the 'shooter'. She said it was absolutely terrifying. From what she described of that and just general panic by the professors, it sounded to me like they didn't have a very good tactical plan in place. Maybe MIT has a similar problem but with emphasis on lack of tactical...

I like my school's plan; when the alert goes out, barricade the door, and if the guy gets in, a select group is to pile on and attempt to take his gun in order to protect the rest of the students... though hopefully I'll never see this implemented.

That better than my school's plan. They essentially told us to drop everything and run away, every man for himself.


It is better to be a moving target than a stationary one no matter which side is shooting.

I rather be a well-protected target. Moving is what you do when you don't have cover.

How well did that work out for Chos barricaded behind a locked door victims?


From here:

"Cho then moved on to Norris 211 and 204.[22] In both of these classrooms, Cho was initially prevented from entering, due to barricades erected by instructors and students. In room 204, Professor Liviu Librescu...forcibly prevented Cho from entering the room. Librescu was able to hold the door closed until most of his students escaped through the windows, but he died after being shot multiple times through the door. One student in his classroom was killed.[24] Instructor Jocelyne Couture-Nowak and student Henry Lee were killed in room 211 as they attempted to barricade the door.[25] Eleven students died in room 211; the six students who survived all suffered gunshot wounds.[1] Cho reloaded and revisited several of the classrooms.[22] After Cho's first visit to room 207, several students had barricaded the door and had begun tending the wounded. When Cho returned minutes later, Katelyn Carney and Derek O'Dell were injured while holding the door closed.[27][28][29]...Students, including Zach Petkewicz, barricaded the door of room 205 with a large table after substitute professor Haiyan Cheng and a student saw Cho heading toward them. Cho shot several times through the door but failed to force his way in. No one in that classroom was wounded or killed.[34][35][36] Hearing the commotion on the floor below, Professor Kevin Granata took 20 students from a third-floor classroom into his office where the door could be locked. He then went downstairs to investigate and was gunned down by Cho. None of the students locked in Granata's office were injured or killed.[37]"

Conclusion: those people who weren't currently standing in the door did quite well. A door is not cover. Ergo, my statement is still valid.

24 Feb 2013 07:56 PM
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