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   Quebec's language minister calls for moderation after language police targeted an Italian restaurant for having the word 'pasta' on the menu

24 Feb 2013 04:30 PM   |   8794 clicks   |   Sun News Network
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quatchi     
You cannot mandate a culture.

It either exists on it's own steam or it dies.

The French language police are the most petty, unneeded Wastes of Bandwidth EVAR.

Here's an example that drives me nuts.

Kentucky Fried Chicken is now know as KFC around the world.

Except in Quebec where it is PFK

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So to reiterate in Paris France where the French language comes from it's called KFC.

In Quebec it's PFK.

Insecure much?

24 Feb 2013 04:06 PM
OtherLittleGuy    [TotalFark]  
Annex Quebec to the Confederacy and let the multicultural derp implode itself.

24 Feb 2013 04:13 PM
ZAZ    [TotalFark]  
What is the Québécois word for pasta?

24 Feb 2013 04:31 PM
skinink    [TotalFark]  
Hehe, fake Frenchies getting upset over language.

24 Feb 2013 04:32 PM
Kumana Wanalaia     
PFK? Splitters.

24 Feb 2013 04:34 PM
Amish Animal Scientist     

ZAZ: What is the Québécois word for pasta?


Le Pasta :P

24 Feb 2013 04:34 PM
Kaybeck     
Former PQ MNA Pierre Curzi, who attended the language meeting, said he found it suspect that media organizations are reporting on language inspections at the same time the government is working on Bill 14.
"It's bizarre that all this is coming out now," he said. "It's almost like this is a campaign on the part of the press."


No shiat.Sun News is practically the official propaganda department for the Neoconservative Party.

24 Feb 2013 04:34 PM
SpdrJay     
Call it 'Freedom Noodle"

24 Feb 2013 04:35 PM
quatchi     

Kumana Wanalaia: PFK? Splitters.


Agreed. The Kentuckian People's Front is where it's at!

24 Feb 2013 04:35 PM
Bug2k     
Montrealers such as myself are largely sick of these laws, including most of my francophone friends.

24 Feb 2013 04:36 PM
lilplatinum     

Bug2k: Montrealers such as myself are largely sick of these laws, including most of my francophone friends.


Is francophone what they have to call the iPhone there?

24 Feb 2013 04:39 PM
ThatGuyFromTheInternet     
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The language inspector, hard at work.

24 Feb 2013 04:39 PM
Running Block     
I feel dirty for clicking a sun news link. Damn this high speed internet; the page loaded before I could shut it down.

24 Feb 2013 04:40 PM
karmachameleon     

quatchi: Except in Quebec where it is PFK


What does the P stand for?

24 Feb 2013 04:43 PM
The_Original_Roxtar     
"One must not judge the OQLF based on only one incident."
fine... I'll judge you on the fact that you only exist because certain assholes in your population are being contrary for the sake of being contrary.

I've never met a Quebecois who didn't understand written and spoken English.

24 Feb 2013 04:43 PM
picturescrazy     

Kumana Wanalaia: PFK? Splitters.


Instead of stabbing themselves with swords, the PFK suicide squad simply eats the chicken.

24 Feb 2013 04:43 PM
quatchi     

karmachameleon: quatchi: Except in Quebec where it is PFK

What does the P stand for?


Poulet is French for Chicken. So... Poulet Frit Kentucky.

24 Feb 2013 04:45 PM
uttertosh     

Kumana Wanalaia: PFK? Splitters.


HA! You got a serious chuckle from me for that!! :D

We have NFC in Sweden  (Nordstan Fried Chicken)

www.collectiveshopping.seView Full Size

24 Feb 2013 04:45 PM
mentula     
le quebecois sont pazzi

24 Feb 2013 04:45 PM
subsetzero     
I knew an anglo from Quebec who named his dog Bizmo.

Bizmo key

24 Feb 2013 04:46 PM
dryknife     
Pastagate? Really?

24 Feb 2013 04:46 PM
Oblio13     
I was there when they passed "Bill 101", making French the only official language. People were joyously pulling down signs and breaking windows if they had any other language on them.

24 Feb 2013 04:46 PM
cnocnanrionnag     

karmachameleon: quatchi: Except in Quebec where it is PFK

What does the P stand for?

Poulet Frite Kentucky , je suspect.


24 Feb 2013 04:47 PM
Bastard Toadflax     
Jesus, even when the French aren't French, they're still insufferable.

/Prescriptive grammar much?

24 Feb 2013 04:47 PM
OtherLittleGuy    [TotalFark]  

uttertosh: Kumana Wanalaia: PFK? Splitters.

HA! You got a serious chuckle from me for that!! :D

We have NFC in Sweden  (Nordstan Fried Chicken)

[www.collectiveshopping.se image 416x280]


Tastes like Seahawks.

24 Feb 2013 04:47 PM
AliceBToklasLives     
In other news, Quebec has a language minister.

24 Feb 2013 04:48 PM
Robo Beat     
So to reiterate in Paris France where the French language comes from it's called KFC.

In Quebec it's PFK.


Insecure much?

It's less insecurity than it is a siege mentality.  Here in France, the red octagonal street signs say "STOP."  In Québec, they say "ARRÊT."  The difference is that while there are many other countries in Europe around France, they speak many different languages (including Belgian and Swiss French), and French is the #2 language in Europe by number of native speakers.  In Canada, the Québécois are surrounded by Anglophones.

24 Feb 2013 04:48 PM
Psychopusher     
This is typical of Quebecois.  Language laws are just an extension of the separatist population's overall desire to be a distinct and sovereign nation.  We are French!  You will not corrupt our culture with your <i>Hanglish!</i>

24 Feb 2013 04:48 PM
JasonOfOrillia    [TotalFark]  

uttertosh: Kumana Wanalaia: PFK? Splitters.

HA! You got a serious chuckle from me for that!! :D

We have NFC in Sweden  (Nordstan Fried Chicken)

[www.collectiveshopping.se image 416x280]


So if we expand that out it's Nordstan Fried Chicken Fried Chicken?

24 Feb 2013 04:51 PM
Dialectic     
connerie!

24 Feb 2013 04:52 PM
ciberido    [TotalFark]  
ThatGuyFromTheInternet: The language inspector, hard at work.

Old and busted:
monty-pythons-life-of-brian.trailertheater.comView Full Size


New hotness:
www.smokedtires.comView Full Size

24 Feb 2013 04:57 PM
Jumpin Jbot     
Quebec! J'accuse!

/all the French I know and will ever want to know
//preferred German in high school
///forgot all of it, took Arabic in college
////forgot all of it, learning Korean
//that one is actually taking more since I actually tend to use it

24 Feb 2013 04:59 PM
LDM90     

quatchi: karmachameleon: quatchi: Except in Quebec where it is PFK

What does the P stand for?

Poulet is French for Chicken. So... Poulet Frit Kentucky.


Wait a minute. Shouldn't they be using the French word for Kentucky?

What is that, like, KentuckhoHO?

24 Feb 2013 05:01 PM
PaLarkin     
What's French for fark Quebec?

24 Feb 2013 05:02 PM
Paris1127    [TotalFark]  
Christ, Quebec, you give French speakers a bad name. I may be picky about grammar and spelling in English, but I don't go around telling English speakers what vocabulary to use.*

Even the French aren't this anal about the language, and they have the Academie Francaise to deal with.

*There are so many dialects, it's pointless. As Churchill once described the US and UK: "two countries divided by a common language"

24 Feb 2013 05:02 PM
pla     
Dear Quebecians (No, I don't really care what made-up pseudo-French term you use to refer to yourselves) - Learn English like all your neighbors.  Jesus, even the real French make fun of you for speaking a form of their language abandoned in the 16th century.  Take that as a hint, guys.

Join the modern world, or enjoy your own "Florida"-like Fark tag.

24 Feb 2013 05:03 PM
mikefinch     

The_Original_Roxtar: I've never met a Quebecois who didn't understand written and spoken English.


Then you not very social. I know a few Albertans that only spoke french. My wife worked at a dairy for years and the boss would hire employees from quebec and they would learn english while living and working in St Isadore.

Half an hour from the farm i grew up on is a big english town of 6000. A half hour in the opposite direction are atleast 6 (all i can think of off the top of my head there are more) incredibly french villages where you cannot get english radio in your car and the stop signs say "Arret" And i would be able to find atleast a few people in each place that would struggle with english.

And thats Alberta. Quebecois deserve being made fun of but language is a huge problem there.

Kids grow up in Quebec and can't speak English and it keeps them from expanding their culture because they can find work anywhere but Quebec.

\I have a beef
\\french was beaten out of my (white) grandmother by nuns at a residential school. My grandmother refused to speak french in the home because she was afraid her children would be beaten for using it. Residential schools werent just an indian thing. They took so much from so many peoples heritage.
\\\Both languages should be taught 1-12 through the entire country.

24 Feb 2013 05:03 PM
karmachameleon     

quatchi: karmachameleon: quatchi: Except in Quebec where it is PFK

What does the P stand for?

Poulet is French for Chicken. So... Poulet Frit Kentucky.


lol...so I don't know much about Quebec, except that it's a part of Canada, which I have always thought of as a primarily English-speaking country.  Reading this article, I'm amused that there is such a thing as a "language minister" and a "language office" or department or whatever...I mean, seriously?  When it comes to government waste, I can hardly think of anything more potentially wasteful that whatever a "language department" does.

So what is the deal with all this anyway?  What's their problem with non-French language?

24 Feb 2013 05:03 PM
Silverstaff     

quatchi: You cannot mandate a culture.


. . .but the Quebecois sure try.

24 Feb 2013 05:05 PM
indarwinsshadow     
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24 Feb 2013 05:08 PM
oldtaku     

karmachameleon: What's their problem with non-French language?


It's not French

24 Feb 2013 05:09 PM
bunner     
In other news, Quebec has a f*cking ministry of language.  Let that sink in.  Language police.

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24 Feb 2013 05:15 PM
Bronzemom     
I did not know that KFC sold French cuisine.
Is fried chicken Swedish too?

24 Feb 2013 05:15 PM
theToadMan     

karmachameleon: quatchi: karmachameleon: quatchi: Except in Quebec where it is PFK

What does the P stand for?

Poulet is French for Chicken. So... Poulet Frit Kentucky.

lol...so I don't know much about Quebec, except that it's a part of Canada, which I have always thought of as a primarily English-speaking country.  Reading this article, I'm amused that there is such a thing as a "language minister" and a "language office" or department or whatever...I mean, seriously?  When it comes to government waste, I can hardly think of anything more potentially wasteful that whatever a "language department" does.

So what is the deal with all this anyway?  What's their problem with non-French language?


There's not much else to do but biatch about stuff when the rest of canada  (re: anglos) are paying the bills

24 Feb 2013 05:16 PM
dobro     
Worse is calling every scandal no matter how trivial (soandso)GATE. Is that ever going to end?

24 Feb 2013 05:17 PM
saintstryfe     

karmachameleon: lol...so I don't know much about Quebec, except that it's a part of Canada, which I have always thought of as a primarily English-speaking country.  Reading this article, I'm amused that there is such a thing as a "language minister" and a "language office" or department or whatever...I mean, seriously?  When it comes to government waste, I can hardly think of anything more potentially wasteful that whatever a "language department" does.

So what is the deal with all this anyway?  What's their problem with non-French language?


It stretches back a long time - when Britian won Canada from the French in the French and Indian Wars, really. Shortly after, Britain passed a law called the Quebec Act which gave French-speaking, Catholic-worshiping francophones equal rights. (as an intesting side note, this was one of the things that got New Englanders all hot-under-the-collar, leading to the American Revolution).

As Canada gained sovereignty, Quebec was still given special status. For example, Quebec's version of social security is seperate from the rest of Canada's. However, Until the late 70's/early 80's the province was still basically run by a tiny Anglophone leadership with a large base of francophones. People who lived generally without any English still had no right to French-language schools, road signs, ect.

During that time about 30 years ago though, a nationalist movement grew up - most exemplified by Parti (provincial) /Bloc(federal) Quebecois. The PQ where who passed Language laws - partally as a "f-you" to the anglophones, but also as a way to rally people toward independence. Now, the Quebec Nationalist movement is nearly dead in real terms, but it got SCARY close in 1995 (mostly due to the Non-side being completebuffoons on a Democrats-during-the-2000's level).

But the Language Police are still there. They still measure signs to make sure the French is X amount bigger then the English, and such. It's really their last desperate grasp, especially after the last national where the Bloc were decimated.

/tell me if I'm out of date on any of my info.

24 Feb 2013 05:17 PM
quatchi     

Paris1127: As Churchill once described the US and UK: "two countries divided by a common language"


I've always liked that one.

Being Canadian is rather odd as our version of English has both American and English spellings.

When I first started political blogging on a semi regular basis it was 2004 and the blowback over the well meant but ill advised letter writing campaign against Bush from Brits via the Guardian newspaper was sweeping the internet so I carefully dropped my extra Us and other Canadianisms and carefully formulated my sentences to make my nationality less obvious without actually lying about it.

I am, of course, long past that point by now.

karmachameleon: So what is the deal with all this anyway?  What's their problem with non-French language?


As mentioned above they have for better or worse adopted a siege mentality as regards their language but their over zealousness in this regard has made them more enemies than friends. In the story above the language police made a boneheaded decision and the language minister was forced to recant and strike down the ridiculous rule after three days of public facepalming.

I get what they're doing and why they're doing it I just think how they are doing it is wrong headed.

24 Feb 2013 05:18 PM
KStDrew     

lilplatinum: Bug2k: Montrealers such as myself are largely sick of these laws, including most of my francophone friends.

Is francophone what they have to call the iPhone there?


It's called jePhone in Quebec.

24 Feb 2013 05:18 PM
Type random string here     

uttertosh: Kumana Wanalaia: PFK? Splitters.

HA! You got a serious chuckle from me for that!! :D

We have NFC in Sweden  (Nordstan Fried Chicken)

[www.collectiveshopping.se image 416x280]


Around here, we're more creative with the names of fried-chicken outlets:
farm7.staticflickr.comView Full Size

in Bras D'Or, Cape Breton.  Some good, eh.

24 Feb 2013 05:19 PM
quatchi     

saintstryfe: /tell me if I'm out of date on any of my info.


Um, actually no that's a pretty good sum up.

Is weird.

I like to tell the old joke that the Canada/US border is really a 3,000 mile long one way mirror where we can see in but the US can't look back through but apparently times have changed.

C'est bon!

24 Feb 2013 05:23 PM
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