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  • There is only one chain shop on our main drag in town (a Starbucks).  I'm sad that many of the locally owned places will be hit the hardest and never come back.
  • Bars might be a bit different in the future

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  • There's a little microbrewery near me with limited space inside.  I hope they take this opportunity to expand outdoors and add a deck or patio.  I don't understand bars with no outdoor spaces.
  • Today was 33% capacity indoor and social distancing outside seating opening in my state.

    The second to last Denny's and last TGI Friday's shut down for good, along with a few locals.  An unscientific local news poll said only 21% would eat at a restaurant this weekend.  I'm sure there will be more casualties.
  • Izunbacol: There's a little microbrewery near me with limited space inside.  I hope they take this opportunity to expand outdoors and add a deck or patio.  I don't understand bars with no outdoor spaces.


    It might be due to patio fees if it's on the sidewalk.  I think they can be in the $1,000's per year and might be a turnoff if the place can't pack it.
  • Honestly, the nice thing about a statewide or nationwide shutdown is that it puts all of the business that can't make it doing carry-out on the same level.  Letting some businesses open to partial capacity will definitely give the bigger chains an advantage while the local places can't risk not making enough to pay their fixed operating costs.
  • Glorious Golden Ass: Izunbacol: There's a little microbrewery near me with limited space inside.  I hope they take this opportunity to expand outdoors and add a deck or patio.  I don't understand bars with no outdoor spaces.

    It might be due to patio fees if it's on the sidewalk.  I think they can be in the $1,000's per year and might be a turnoff if the place can't pack it.


    I was thinking more of places in the suburbs. The one I frequent is in a little light industrial park (between the self storage lot and the bathroom remodeling place). It's got a a 2500 sq ft grassy area in front that would make an amazing desk or patio area.

    But yeah, I get that TFA was about NYC.
  • I don't get this push to allow for closing streets and sidewalks for outdoor seating.  This may work fine for good weather but what if the weather is bad.  And what happens when all of these people are dining outside and a sudden storm hits?  Where do they go? And the restroom issue? Looks to be a bit more complicated then simply closing the streets and setting up tables.
  • runwiz: I don't get this push to allow for closing streets and sidewalks for outdoor seating.  This may work fine for good weather but what if the weather is bad.  And what happens when all of these people are dining outside and a sudden storm hits?  Where do they go? And the restroom issue? Looks to be a bit more complicated then simply closing the streets and setting up tables.


    This isn't 1620. Our weather forecasts are pretty accurate 24 hours out. If there's a high probability of storms; restaurants won't put out tables or they'll watch the radar closely. What do you think happen pre-COVID with outdoor seating?
  • I remember drinking in that place years ago..Welcome to the Johnsons it was like drinking in the same basement in the Midwest that I so desperately was trying to escape with booze, when I was actually in the Midwest.

    It was pretty Meta.
  • Also Long Island Bar... great place.  I hope I can revisit.
  • runwiz: I don't get this push to allow for closing streets and sidewalks for outdoor seating.  This may work fine for good weather but what if the weather is bad.  And what happens when all of these people are dining outside and a sudden storm hits?  Where do they go? And the restroom issue? Looks to be a bit more complicated then simply closing the streets and setting up tables.


    Well, yes, it is a bit more complicated, but not that much. You do realize that restaurants have been successfully running outdoor seating for a while, right? It's better than nothing, and a lot of us in the industry are clever enough to figure our shiat out when our livelihoods depend on it.
  • Surrender your boo-tah: Applebee's on every corner.


    Yeah. That's what I was afraid of when this all started.

    San Francisco is going to get cleaned out and everyone and everything interesting will be replaced
    by the people and the corporations who could weather the storm. Yay. More down vests, one-wheel douchebros and reclaimed wood $20 hamburger places with 19 tvs.
  • Our empty, hot-air, service based "economy" is now going to face reality.
    Our economy has been dying since Reagan and his fascist thugs came to power.
    The American worker has moved backward every year since then.
    What little real wealth still exists in this country is in the hands of the 5% that own everything - those who work have nothing.
    That's your "economy" - and the Magavirus didn't create the situation - it's only revealing it.
  • Surrender your boo-tah: Applebee's on every corner.


    God, I hope not. Those places suck. I farking hate Applebee's.
  • The only thing that I think will save retail an restaurants  in big metro areas will be for landlords to cut their rents proactively to give their commercial tenants breathings room. If they don't do this, they are going to wind up with a ton of empty storefronts in the next six months unless a vaccine miraculously happens, and it'll be even more painful.
  • Glorious Golden Ass: Honestly, the nice thing about a statewide or nationwide shutdown is that it puts all of the business that can't make it doing carry-out on the same level.  Letting some businesses open to partial capacity will definitely give the bigger chains an advantage while the local places can't risk not making enough to pay their fixed operating costs.


    A lot of the national chains are franchised, so it's not like the owners of those locations have particularly deep pockets, either.
  • Mad_Radhu: The only thing that I think will save retail an restaurants  in big metro areas will be for landlords to cut their rents proactively to give their commercial tenants breathings room. If they don't do this, they are going to wind up with a ton of empty storefronts in the next six months unless a vaccine miraculously happens, and it'll be even more painful.


    Landlords cutting rent??
  • Lucky Stu: Surrender your boo-tah: Applebee's on every corner.

    God, I hope not. Those places suck. I farking hate Applebee's.


    20 years ago one of them actually had good riblets at an all you can eat riblet special. I showed up for that and it great.

    The next year everything tasted like garbage. I guess maybe if I supported them between specials instead of going once per year, hehe.
  • TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Mad_Radhu: The only thing that I think will save retail an restaurants  in big metro areas will be for landlords to cut their rents proactively to give their commercial tenants breathings room. If they don't do this, they are going to wind up with a ton of empty storefronts in the next six months unless a vaccine miraculously happens, and it'll be even more painful.

    Landlords cutting rent??


    Probably in their best interests.

    They won't act that way though.
  • Izunbacol: There's a little microbrewery near me with limited space inside.  I hope they take this opportunity to expand outdoors and add a deck or patio.  I don't understand bars with no outdoor spaces.


    Winter.
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