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  • cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]


    ....and that's only the "official" count.
  • The coronavirus may still be spreading at epidemic rates in 24 states, particularly in the South and Midwest, according to new research that highlights the risk of a second wave of infections in places that reopen too quickly or without sufficient precautions.

    How can we have a second wave if the first wave isn't over yet?
  • whither_apophis: The coronavirus may still be spreading at epidemic rates in 24 states, particularly in the South and Midwest, according to new research that highlights the risk of a second wave of infections in places that reopen too quickly or without sufficient precautions.

    How can we have a second wave if the first wave isn't over yet?


    It makes more sense if you think of "waves" as waves of media coverage, because American collective reality is of course determined by what is on TV rather than what is happening in the objective concrete world.

    See, the first wave is subsiding, and we know this because we are dedicating a bit less coverage to it as we get less and less shocked by the idea of mass death, so more of our news stories are about reopening and we're looping in a bit more human interest and a bit more politics, by which we mean breathless coverage of "gaffes".

    But if things in the real world continue to get worse, eventually it will build to the point where the daily death toll again becomes shocking, which will potentially spark a second wave of coverage if the death rate grows more quickly than our ability to recalibrate the amount of suffering we think is normal. And of course, it is paramount for our political leaders that we avoid such a second wave of headlines, because this is an election year and the last thing we need to focus on is their ability to manage the government response to an important situation.
  • My town went from 5,500 people to about 20,000 in the immediate surrounding area from Thursday to Friday evening. The Forest Service was forced to open up campgrounds that it had closed because of fire danger. We have 1 major grocery store. And NOBODY who came up from Phoenix is wearing a mask.

    We are so f*cked.

    I wish we could do a lockdown like the reservation.
  • Wait, what?  Which states have controlled outbreaks?  Every farking state has community transmission.  The derp states have done it better by making the community transmission widespread.  Covatulations to them for their efforts.
  • whither_apophis: The coronavirus may still be spreading at epidemic rates in 24 states, particularly in the South and Midwest, according to new research that highlights the risk of a second wave of infections in places that reopen too quickly or without sufficient precautions.

    How can we have a second wave if the first wave isn't over yet?


    Depends. Are we looking regionally or nationally?

    It hit the coasts first. The coasts are now riding their downslopes. It's now cresting in the Midwest. In about a month I expect to see the numbers come back up on the coasts while the Midwest goes down. Rinse and repeat for the next two years until we get a vaccine.

    Nationally? No, we're going to experience one very loooooooooooooooong wave.

    As regions, get ready for a series of alternating lockdowns and reopenings.
  • Pennsylvania back on top as far as deaths per day.
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  • cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]


    Oh, look who it is, conveniently turning up yet again to kick off a doom-mongering thread.
  • orbister: cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]

    Oh, look who it is, conveniently turning up yet again to kick off a doom-mongering thread.


    Looks like the resident grandpa with diabetes that's still going to church and licking salt salt shakers has shown up to complain.
  • orbister: cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]

    Oh, look who it is, conveniently turning up yet again to kick off a doom-mongering thread.


    Just ignore it and it'll all go away, eh?
  • ecmoRandomNumbers: My town went from 5,500 people to about 20,000 in the immediate surrounding area from Thursday to Friday evening. The Forest Service was forced to open up campgrounds that it had closed because of fire danger. We have 1 major grocery store. And NOBODY who came up from Phoenix is wearing a mask.

    We are so f*cked.

    I wish we could do a lockdown like the reservation.


    You wouldn't have a town for not those 15,000 vacationers.
  • There was news coverage yesterday about Brazil's single day numbers skyrocketing to 20K+ new infections and how things are going to explode there.  The US 7 day average has been over 20K+ new infections for 2 over months and is holding steady.  So tell me how it's safe for the US to reopen when it's panic time in Brazil?  I saw a blurb by the author of The Coming Pandemic and she said if you take out the numbers from NYC/Chicago/Detroit which have done a good job of bringing the curve down in their areas, the rest of the country is a line straight up that follows uncontrolled growth.  Plus now we know they are manipulating numbers, I'm thinking when she said this will last for 3 years isn't far fetched.
  • orbister: cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]

    Oh, look who it is, conveniently turning up yet again to kick off a doom-mongering thread.


    That's ok. Two months from now, the GOP will say cretinbob downplayed it.
  • tpmchris: ecmoRandomNumbers: My town went from 5,500 people to about 20,000 in the immediate surrounding area from Thursday to Friday evening. The Forest Service was forced to open up campgrounds that it had closed because of fire danger. We have 1 major grocery store. And NOBODY who came up from Phoenix is wearing a mask.

    We are so f*cked.

    I wish we could do a lockdown like the reservation.

    You wouldn't have a town for not those 15,000 vacationers.


    Because small towns only exist for tourists?
  • I'm traveling for work this weekend. I'm in costal cities (but not at the beach). The hotels that are open are full or full-ish. The traffic going toward the beaches yesterday afternoon was heavy. Sit-down dining is open. And the majority of people are not wearing masks.
  • orbister: cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]

    Oh, look who it is, conveniently turning up yet again to kick off a doom-mongering thread.



    We went to war with two countries over 3k deaths.

    Coronavirus has claimed almost 100k.

    What is that....collateral damage? The cost of doing business? Tuesday?
  • If they dont report it in the news, it isn't happening.
  • pkjun: whither_apophis: The coronavirus may still be spreading at epidemic rates in 24 states, particularly in the South and Midwest, according to new research that highlights the risk of a second wave of infections in places that reopen too quickly or without sufficient precautions.

    How can we have a second wave if the first wave isn't over yet?

    It makes more sense if you think of "waves" as waves of media coverage, because American collective reality is of course determined by what is on TV rather than what is happening in the objective concrete world.

    See, the first wave is subsiding, and we know this because we are dedicating a bit less coverage to it as we get less and less shocked by the idea of mass death, so more of our news stories are about reopening and we're looping in a bit more human interest and a bit more politics, by which we mean breathless coverage of "gaffes".

    But if things in the real world continue to get worse, eventually it will build to the point where the daily death toll again becomes shocking, which will potentially spark a second wave of coverage if the death rate grows more quickly than our ability to recalibrate the amount of suffering we think is normal. And of course, it is paramount for our political leaders that we avoid such a second wave of headlines, because this is an election year and the last thing we need to focus on is their ability to manage the government response to an important situation.


    This was well said and sadly accurate.
  • pkjun: whither_apophis: The coronavirus may still be spreading at epidemic rates in 24 states, particularly in the South and Midwest, according to new research that highlights the risk of a second wave of infections in places that reopen too quickly or without sufficient precautions.

    How can we have a second wave if the first wave isn't over yet?

    It makes more sense if you think of "waves" as waves of media coverage, because American collective reality is of course determined by what is on TV rather than what is happening in the objective concrete world.

    See, the first wave is subsiding, and we know this because we are dedicating a bit less coverage to it as we get less and less shocked by the idea of mass death, so more of our news stories are about reopening and we're looping in a bit more human interest and a bit more politics, by which we mean breathless coverage of "gaffes".

    But if things in the real world continue to get worse, eventually it will build to the point where the daily death toll again becomes shocking, which will potentially spark a second wave of coverage if the death rate grows more quickly than our ability to recalibrate the amount of suffering we think is normal. And of course, it is paramount for our political leaders that we avoid such a second wave of headlines, because this is an election year and the last thing we need to focus on is their ability to manage the government response to an important situation.


    It is with a heavy heart that I Smart this post. You nailed it.
  • I work in a rural area where about 5% of the population has been infected.  It's funny how even die hard conservatives have started wearing masks and saying they're not going out to eat for a while.
  • orbister: cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]

    Oh, look who it is, conveniently turning up yet again to kick off a doom-mongering thread.


    The nerve of some people, implying there's somehow something bad about lots of people dying in a pandemic.
  • MechaPyx: orbister: cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]

    Oh, look who it is, conveniently turning up yet again to kick off a doom-mongering thread.


    We went to war with two countries over 3k deaths.

    Coronavirus has claimed almost 100k.

    What is that....collateral damage? The cost of doing business? Tuesday?


    Well, sure. That was the military and bombs and somewhere way over there, i.e. things we don't have to inconvenience Americans to do.
  • MechaPyx: orbister: cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]

    Oh, look who it is, conveniently turning up yet again to kick off a doom-mongering thread.


    We went to war with two countries over 3k deaths.

    Coronavirus has claimed almost 100k.

    What is that....collateral damage? The cost of doing business? Tuesday?


    Nah - saturday mourning
  • cretinbob: [mlive.com image 850x603]


    Not true; Michigan Stadium hasn't been below 100k since the mid-50s. It's 107,601 right now. Currently we're between Sanford (92,746) and Darrell K. Royal - Texas Memorial Stadium (100,119) with it becoming very likely that we'll pass DKR by the end of the weekend.
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