Your kid never goes this again. Period. I am from families where gun ownership is common. This would never fly. That kid would never go to that house again.
The plus here is you don't have to deal with the entitled idiot for a year or so. When and if you do go back, absolutely insist the guns need to be locked away while your kid is there (especially since she'll be 2 or 3, prime time for curiosity).
/ 50/50 this situation solves itself tragically before then
You could just ask him not to leave the gun out around the 1 year old who's definitely not leaving someone's arms because....babby....fictitious woman who totally exists, we promise.
EvilEgg:dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you. If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.
That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe. Or just remove the firing pin.
That is a bad idea. You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime. Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.
That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.
Also, trigger locks are bad. *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules: Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire. Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.
dittybopper:EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you. If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.
That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe. Or just remove the firing pin.
That is a bad idea. You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime. Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.
That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.
Also, trigger locks are bad. *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules: Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire. Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.
Whatever, clearly it is hyperbole. In a real situation I would probably just not visit with my child and make it clear that they are welcome to see their grandchild someplace there isn't unsecured handgun.
Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.
I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
enry:RTOGUY: When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?
It makes you wonder when you have to ask.the question each time you visit.
That's not much of a burden. People who don't live with kids in the house don't have the same mental patterns. They're not constantly worried about the guns being put up. It's not much to ask and remind an older person "Hey, kids are over, make sure you didn't forget to put up the gun!"
And considering what is at stake, we're talking about a sliver of prevention to stop a ton of problems.
PLUS, now you know a great gift to get the inlaws - one of those quick open palm reading safes. They cost like 100-200 and make it so the proper owner can access the gun almost instantly.
Elegy:Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.
I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
realmolo:Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.
I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
You're a moron. And a coward.
I'm not entirely certain he isn't talking about actual dogs.
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Nailed it.
This needs to be a national slogan, after the current idiocracy is over and adults are in charge of the government again.
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RTOGUY: When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?
It makes you wonder when you have to ask.the question each time you visit.
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Sorelian's Ghost: Wing him or knee cap him...that will teach him to leave a shotgun lying around.
No need for that. But do by all means pull the trigger to check if its loaded. Maybe point it at the couch first. You don't want to act irresponsibly.
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Either he listens or you don't have to go see your in-laws anymore, win-win.
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/ 50/50 this situation solves itself tragically before then
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If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.
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dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.
That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe. Or just remove the firing pin.
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UNC_Samurai: [i.imgur.com image 850x566]
I will give that dude credit for not having his finger on the trigger while he pointed the gun at the people walking past his house.
Unlike his wife...
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EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.
That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe. Or just remove the firing pin.
That is a bad idea. You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime. Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.
That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.
Also, trigger locks are bad. *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules: Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire. Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.
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dittybopper: EvilEgg: dionysusaur: Take a trigger lock with you.
If it's not put away, lock it and hold the key until you leave.
That was my plan, except I might mail them the key a few months later, maybe. Or just remove the firing pin.
That is a bad idea. You can, for example, take the car keys of someone you know is drunk, but you can't hold on to them for months without committing a crime. Or take a vital part and keep it past the immediate time of danger.
That's theft, and that would put you in legal jeopardy.
Also, trigger locks are bad. *NEVER* use a trigger lock, because they violate one of the major safety rules: Don't put your finger in the trigger until you are ready to fire. Use something like a cable lock that keeps the action open instead, or a safe.
[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/S_4QvNmfti4]
Whatever, clearly it is hyperbole. In a real situation I would probably just not visit with my child and make it clear that they are welcome to see their grandchild someplace there isn't unsecured handgun.
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I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
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enry: RTOGUY: When you get there just ask them if the gun is put away. Done. No need to make a huge issue out of it how do these people survive to adulthood?
It makes you wonder when you have to ask.the question each time you visit.
That's not much of a burden. People who don't live with kids in the house don't have the same mental patterns. They're not constantly worried about the guns being put up. It's not much to ask and remind an older person "Hey, kids are over, make sure you didn't forget to put up the gun!"
And considering what is at stake, we're talking about a sliver of prevention to stop a ton of problems.
PLUS, now you know a great gift to get the inlaws - one of those quick open palm reading safes. They cost like 100-200 and make it so the proper owner can access the gun almost instantly.
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Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.
I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
You're a moron. And a coward.
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realmolo: Elegy: Stop getting pissed at dad for your own failings. Trigger locks, cable locks, gun safes, all that liberal bullshiat is just a crutch for irresponsible gun owners and they will absolutely get you killed- because when you need a gun you need a gun. Educate your family about gun safety instead.
I have two young 'uns aged 9 and 10. Since my oldest was 1 year old, I've kept my loaded shotgun in the corner of the closet and my loaded revolver in my nightstand drawer. Rather than try to lock the gun away and pretend it doesn't exist, I educated mine how to act around guns like a real parent does. Any time they start playing around my guns, I just wack em with a rolled up newspaper and tell 'em bad dogin a firm voice. We've never had a problem, both are pretty smart and well behaved.
You're a moron. And a coward.
I'm not entirely certain he isn't talking about actual dogs.
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