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  • Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

    Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

    Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.


    Not sure if I should call you an asshole for the Weeners or anti-semetic for that last comment.
  • RyansPrivates: I want Biden to not just announce his VP; I want him to announce that he is ready to hit the ground running and that he already has his cabinet picks lined up for every major position. Do that in contrast to Trump who still doesnt


    Epic trollology if Biden picks Tillerson as SecState.
  • Could he name Barack Obama VP. That would be awesome
  • Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: johnphantom: I hope he picks Rice. She is all business, and you can tell that easily.

    Way too much baggage.


    It's good kind of baggage. If you're talking about Susan Rice. If you're talking about Condi Rice, then that's bad baggage.
  • Subtonic: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.

    This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

    Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.

    Two points. 1. In modern electoral history, a VP pick doesn't help a whole lot, but can damn well sink a campaign (Palin). 2. Joe said woman, not necessarily a POC. He used the term 'adding diversity' which is no definite statement.


    Amy Klobuchar effectively closed the door for non-POC women as veep. She said it's time for an African American woman to be picked.

    And I agree. Every AAW I've met in my professional life have been outstanding, exceptionally capable people. When you meet 10s (in the professional sense) every once in a while, I consistently see 11s and 12s. It's like, Bang! job's done. Bam! made that happen.
  • Sry guys it wont be Duckworth. She knows biden is a farking coward that didnt go to Vietnam because asthma. So I'll vote jorgensen as a fark you.
  • dericwater: Subtonic: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.

    This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

    Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.

    Two points. 1. In modern electoral history, a VP pick doesn't help a whole lot, but can damn well sink a campaign (Palin). 2. Joe said woman, not necessarily a POC. He used the term 'adding diversity' which is no definite statement.

    Amy Klobuchar effectively closed the door for non-POC women as veep. She said it's time for an African American woman to be picked.

    And I agree. Every AAW I've met in my professional life have been outstanding, exceptionally capable people. When you meet 10s (in the professional sense) every once in a while, I consistently see 11s and 12s. It's like, Bang! job's done. Bam! made that happen.


    I remain to be convinced, she might have said so, but it comes off as sour grapes and burning the bridge behind her for as many other contenders as possible when she knew she couldn't get it. She comes off as that petty. I will give her this, 'shake the money tree in the wine cave' was a good line.
  • Subtonic: dericwater: Subtonic: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.

    This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

    Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.

    Two points. 1. In modern electoral history, a VP pick doesn't help a whole lot, but can damn well sink a campaign (Palin). 2. Joe said woman, not necessarily a POC. He used the term 'adding diversity' which is no definite statement.

    Amy Klobuchar effectively closed the door for non-POC women as veep. She said it's time for an African American woman to be picked.

    And I agree. Every AAW I've met in my professional life have been outstanding, exceptionally capable people. When you meet 10s (in the professional sense) every once in a while, I consistently see 11s and 12s. It's like, Bang! job's done. Bam! made that happen.

    I remain to be convinced, she might have said so, but it comes off as sour grapes and burning the bridge behind her for as many other contenders as possible when she knew she couldn't get it. She comes off as that petty. I will give her this, 'shake the money tree in the wine cave' was a good line.


    It's not petty, it's just reading the room correctly.  Picking a white person just isn't good optics right now.  I don't know if she *has* to be black, but if Biden doesn't pick a POC he's going to be raked over the coals by the folks who make up the core of the Democratic voting pool no matter how much she appeals to other segments .

    /Duckworth 2024!
  • Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Gubbo: Glockenspiel Hero: One nice thing is reading through this list and realizing while I prefer some of them to others, *every* *single* *one* would be a good to great pick.

    A lot of folks were whinging about how the Democrats had a weak bench, nobody to follow Obama, nobody who could inspire, etc.

    Yeah, no.  Take that concern and shove it.

    /And this middle aged white guy is happy to admit most of the best in the Democratic party right now are minority women.  I'm 100% ok with that.

    I was trying to think of the white men in the party that I think would be good VPs. Ted Lieu is ineligible, Gavin Newsom doesn't want the demotion, and yeah...I got nothing.

    Ted Lieu would make a great replacement for Harris in the Senate.

    For all of you stanning Duckworth, Abrams, or Rice, let's be clear: they're not in the running. This article is merely speculative punditry.


    I like Ted, but my first guess to replace a Harris VP pick was Katie Porter.
  • GreatGlavinsGhost: Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Gubbo: Glockenspiel Hero: One nice thing is reading through this list and realizing while I prefer some of them to others, *every* *single* *one* would be a good to great pick.

    A lot of folks were whinging about how the Democrats had a weak bench, nobody to follow Obama, nobody who could inspire, etc.

    Yeah, no.  Take that concern and shove it.

    /And this middle aged white guy is happy to admit most of the best in the Democratic party right now are minority women.  I'm 100% ok with that.

    I was trying to think of the white men in the party that I think would be good VPs. Ted Lieu is ineligible, Gavin Newsom doesn't want the demotion, and yeah...I got nothing.

    Ted Lieu would make a great replacement for Harris in the Senate.

    For all of you stanning Duckworth, Abrams, or Rice, let's be clear: they're not in the running. This article is merely speculative punditry.

    I like Ted, but my first guess to replace a Harris VP pick was Katie Porter.


    For sure. I would actually prefer that she take over for DiFi. That DINO is a literal dinosaur. While I'm doing my best to see as many female candidates get elected, I would be happy to see Shifty Schiff as a CA senator as well. Luckily, the CA bench of capable Dem legislators and public service officials is deep.
  • dericwater: For sure. I would actually prefer that she take over for DiFi. That DINO is a literal dinosaur. While I'm doing my best to see as many female candidates get elected, I would be happy to see Shifty Schiff as a CA senator as well. Luckily, the CA bench of capable Dem legislators and public service officials is deep.


    Diane has got to go. I was hoping that her single questionable stock transaction might hurry her out the door, but because far worse investment behavior by congresscritters was handwaved away, Diane got a pass.
  • madgonad: dericwater: For sure. I would actually prefer that she take over for DiFi. That DINO is a literal dinosaur. While I'm doing my best to see as many female candidates get elected, I would be happy to see Shifty Schiff as a CA senator as well. Luckily, the CA bench of capable Dem legislators and public service officials is deep.

    Diane has got to go. I was hoping that her single questionable stock transaction might hurry her out the door, but because far worse investment behavior by congresscritters was handwaved away, Diane got a pass.


    Diane only has a political career because Harvey was murdered
  • Maybe Biden should pull a Time Magazine and announce, "My running mate is WOMEN"
  • Cornelius Dribble: Maybe Biden should pull a Time Magazine and announce, "My running mate is WOMEN"


    Binders full of women
  • Whoever the Veep pick is must be able to handle that 3am phone call with confidence.  We're setting the bar rather low lately, so, there is that.
  • dericwater: Subtonic: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: someonelse: It would be nice if the Biden campaign didn't focus group and overthink this to death. Biden, of all people, should know the importance of having good working chemistry with his veep. Hopefully the campaign is putting that consideration high on the list.

    This is a good point. The press (and political junkies like us) spend an inordinate amount of time talking about the VP pick when most studies show it has very little effect on the outcome of an election. I think the two most important questions are (1) will she and Biden make a good team and (2) will she be ready to step up to the presidency if something happens to Biden during his term.

    Biden has said he's going to nominate a woman of color, which is great. I think any of the women mentioned would make a fine choice.

    Two points. 1. In modern electoral history, a VP pick doesn't help a whole lot, but can damn well sink a campaign (Palin). 2. Joe said woman, not necessarily a POC. He used the term 'adding diversity' which is no definite statement.

    Amy Klobuchar effectively closed the door for non-POC women as veep. She said it's time for an African American woman to be picked.

    And I agree. Every AAW I've met in my professional life have been outstanding, exceptionally capable people. When you meet 10s (in the professional sense) every once in a while, I consistently see 11s and 12s. It's like, Bang! job's done. Bam! made that happen.


    I agree with everything you just said.

    Every single black woman I have met with one exception, has been phenomenal.
  • GreatGlavinsGhost: Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Gubbo: Glockenspiel Hero: One nice thing is reading through this list and realizing while I prefer some of them to others, *every* *single* *one* would be a good to great pick.

    A lot of folks were whinging about how the Democrats had a weak bench, nobody to follow Obama, nobody who could inspire, etc.

    Yeah, no.  Take that concern and shove it.

    /And this middle aged white guy is happy to admit most of the best in the Democratic party right now are minority women.  I'm 100% ok with that.

    I was trying to think of the white men in the party that I think would be good VPs. Ted Lieu is ineligible, Gavin Newsom doesn't want the demotion, and yeah...I got nothing.

    Ted Lieu would make a great replacement for Harris in the Senate.

    For all of you stanning Duckworth, Abrams, or Rice, let's be clear: they're not in the running. This article is merely speculative punditry.

    I like Ted, but my first guess to replace a Harris VP pick was Katie Porter.


    I bow to your greater logic.
  • Not too late for Biden to pick Joe Manchin.
  • Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Gubbo: Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

    While I like Duckworth, she was born in Thailand to a Thai mother (and an American father).  And while that kind of foreign born/non-American parentage didn't seem to matter for Ted Cruz's political ambitions, the RWNJs had a field day with Obama being born in Hawai'i, which led to some Orange Shiatgibbon being elected president.

    I don't know if I have a point other than, "I see where this would lead to."


    The only Democrats who were hurt by Britherism were the cowards who preemptively ran away from Obama after it. Refusing to do something because it will make the Republicans do a racist thing is supremely stupid because racism is one of their main strategies.
  • mikalmd: Warren .. And Harris as A. G.  .. Can't wait to see what she'd do to Barr ..


    I'm guessing roughly the same thing she did to Mnuchin...
  • madgonad: Mr. Shabooboo: Warren would be my choice for Biden..Duckworth as SecDef... Abrams as head of DOJ...
    I'd like him to have Mayor Pete as either UN Ambassador or Sec of State..Corey Booker
    would be a great choice for HUD or Education..

    Really. Putting the black guy in HUD again?


    HA...I guess that is a cliche'....But still, the dude knows all about urban re-development, he was
    a mayor in Newark...
  • Podna: Cornelius Dribble: Maybe Biden should pull a Time Magazine and announce, "My running mate is WOMEN"

    Binders full of women


    bidens full of women??
  • Gubbo: floor: Gubbo: It's a big decision. You have to assume that, if he wins, Joe only serves one term. Making his VP choice the 2024 front runner.

    So, who do you want that to be.

    /my money is still on Abrams
    //but far less confident than I was previously

    Yeah she has been clear that she has not been contacted, so while a good choice she is not in the running.

    Harris is a good VP pick politically. She can be the campaigns puncher* while he plays statesman in the campaign for 2020. If she takes over my only concern would be her commitment to the justice/policing ennema this country needs.

    /* Seriously, she is spectacular at this.

    I wouldn't put any faith in what anyone says at this point. Think of it like the NFL draft where you don't believe a single word that a GM says.

    There's a Yes Minister speech about not wanting the job, but if one's friends thought one was right for the job etc etc (I just can't find a video to share)


    Understood. Abrams is not the usual " I have not been contacted but..." line. She is clear no one from the campaign or surrogate has in anyway shape of form has contacted her. Harris and Whitmer just say what an honor but have not been contacted by  the campaign, while leaks have come out about how they are in the early vetting.
  • APO_Buddha: Peter_B_Risen: Please let it be Baldwin.

    Then I might actually go from boycott vote to Biden vote if it means getting her the Fark out of my state.

    Of course, then we will probably have to deal with Little Russy Foolsgold running in the special election.

    Not sure if I should call you an asshole for the Weeners or anti-semetic for that last comment.


    Really???  I didn't come up with the nickname, and it has nothing to do with him being Jewish.  He got it after he convinced (fooled) everyone into electing him in 1992 by running as a left leaning moderate.
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