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  • Kermit drinking tea IS an influencer.
  • Straight Outta Wells Branch: They're dead. Let them go.


    They've already outlived Jim Henson by over 30 years.  They can make new characters instead.
  • Frank Oz is spinning in his grave. They had to tell him to stop or they would evict him for a) spinning and b) trespassing.

    Graveyard is not zoned for light industry.
  • Are you suggesting the set of characters popularized in a pastiche of vaudeville is having difficulty finding an audience in the 21st century?
  • brantgoose: Frank Oz is spinning in his grave. They had to tell him to stop or they would evict him for a) spinning and b) trespassing.

    Graveyard is not zoned for light industry.


    One problem Frank Oz is not dead.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/​Frank_Oz
  • Say what you will about the short lived "The Muppets" series, but I got hooked with the Fozzie Bear's bit about his on-line dating profile (starts at 0:16 in):

    "The Muppets": Fozzie Bear Takes Out A Personal Ad
    Youtube DbZhX0XTBEs
  • Mike_LowELL: Are you suggesting the set of characters popularized in a pastiche of vaudeville is having difficulty finding an audience in the 21st century?


    I know Mike is satirical, but I think this is a part of it. Here's the other part, though. I'm going to catch some hell for saying this, but I honestly believe this.

    The Muppets last TV series backfired because they finally gave Miss Piggy the lead. The whole power dynamic between Miss Piggy and Kermit is that Kermit was always the emcee & Miss Piggy was always trying to be the lead. The joke is that no matter how hard she tried, she could never truly crack that glass ceiling.

    But in the face of #MeToo, there was a bit of of undue pressure to artificially manufacture strong female characters. As a result, Miss Piggy was given what she always wanted, but the joke was ruined as a result. Giving Miss Piggy the emcee role was like letting the Coyote finally catch the Road Runner. Once that happened, the joke had nowhere else to go & you couldn't go back to what it was.

    I'm sure no one will have any issue with what I just said. This will be a well-reasoned thread, no doubt.
  • It wasn't TMS. It made me smile. I am ok with that.

    I didn't feel attacked. triggered or threatened. But I don't usually.
  • Straight Outta Wells Branch: Mike_LowELL: Are you suggesting the set of characters popularized in a pastiche of vaudeville is having difficulty finding an audience in the 21st century?

    I know Mike is satirical, but I think this is a part of it. Here's the other part, though. I'm going to catch some hell for saying this, but I honestly believe this.

    The Muppets last TV series backfired because they finally gave Miss Piggy the lead. The whole power dynamic between Miss Piggy and Kermit is that Kermit was always the emcee & Miss Piggy was always trying to be the lead. The joke is that no matter how hard she tried, she could never truly crack that glass ceiling.

    But in the face of #MeToo, there was a bit of of undue pressure to artificially manufacture strong female characters. As a result, Miss Piggy was given what she always wanted, but the joke was ruined as a result. Giving Miss Piggy the emcee role was like letting the Coyote finally catch the Road Runner. Once that happened, the joke had nowhere else to go & you couldn't go back to what it was.

    I'm sure no one will have any issue with what I just said. This will be a well-reasoned thread, no doubt.


    I never read that deep into it. I always got the attitude that she was a Diva despite not being good enough to be one. Maybe it was just a shallow read since I was a child at the time.
  • grimlock1972: brantgoose: Frank Oz is spinning in his grave. They had to tell him to stop or they would evict him for a) spinning and b) trespassing.

    Graveyard is not zoned for light industry.

    One problem Frank Oz is not dead.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F​rank_Oz


    I'm guessing thus the "trespassing" part.
  • AppleOptionEsc: I never read that deep into it. I always got the attitude that she was a Diva despite not being good enough to be one. Maybe it was just a shallow read since I was a child at the time.


    She's self-absorbed to the point of lashing out at others when challenged about it.

    What's more universally American than that?
  • Erek the Red: Say what you will about the short lived "The Muppets" series, but I got hooked with the Fozzie Bear's bit about his on-line dating profile (starts at 0:16 in):

    [iFrame https://www.youtube.com/embed/DbZhX0XT​BEs?autoplay=1&widget_referrer=https%3​A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&start=0&enablejsap​i=1&origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fark.com&​widgetid=1]


    It hurts me in a very big way that the Muppets reboot didn't take off. I know I'm old as fark, but those characters are eternal to me and always make me smile.
  • I can deal with any of this, but the new voice of Kermit just sounds so farking wrong it took me out of it every time he talked.
  • It was cute.  I got a kick out of how biatchy the Swedish Chef was in his segment.
  • Erek the Red: Say what you will about the short lived "The Muppets" series, but I got hooked with the Fozzie Bear's bit about his on-line dating profile (starts at 0:16 in):

    [YouTube video: "The Muppets": Fozzie Bear Takes Out A Personal Ad]


    That was a great show. Who knew a Muppets version of 30 Rock with Kermit as Liz Lemon would have been that good. But it was great.
  • I like the The Muppets series that was cancelled. There I said it, haters.
  • Straight Outta Wells Branch: Mike_LowELL: Are you suggesting the set of characters popularized in a pastiche of vaudeville is having difficulty finding an audience in the 21st century?

    I know Mike is satirical, but I think this is a part of it. Here's the other part, though. I'm going to catch some hell for saying this, but I honestly believe this.

    The Muppets last TV series backfired because they finally gave Miss Piggy the lead. The whole power dynamic between Miss Piggy and Kermit is that Kermit was always the emcee & Miss Piggy was always trying to be the lead. The joke is that no matter how hard she tried, she could never truly crack that glass ceiling.

    But in the face of #MeToo, there was a bit of of undue pressure to artificially manufacture strong female characters. As a result, Miss Piggy was given what she always wanted, but the joke was ruined as a result. Giving Miss Piggy the emcee role was like letting the Coyote finally catch the Road Runner. Once that happened, the joke had nowhere else to go & you couldn't go back to what it was.

    I'm sure no one will have any issue with what I just said. This will be a well-reasoned thread, no doubt.


    Dude, really. What were you watching? Kermit was still running the show, if anything they made a Piggy into a parody of herself as a Mariah Carey-level diva.
  • If Marge Simpson can be in a Playnoy pictorial. Why can't Janice?
  • Vinny's Muppet Movie Pitch
    Youtube i8_5OCJVPTM

    Hopefully they give Vinny a credit.
  • Fisting with Animals will be a hit in Enumclaw, WA.
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    The variety style show actually maps pretty well onto how people consume videos online these days. I liked most of the skits and thought the kermit's photography skit in particular felt in touch with the old muppets.
  • There is no singing again, just like in the "The Office" style one from a few years ago. Why do they keep making Muppet shows where they don't sing?
  • iremo: There is no singing again, just like in the "The Office" style one from a few years ago. Why do they keep making Muppet shows where they don't sing?


    Can't get the lip syncing right?
  • I'd watch it, if it wasn't D+.  Don't get me wrong, it's a pretty good value far as streaming services go, but Disney just owns way too much of everything.  I can't bring myself to give them more money.  Maybe if they pulled a Microsoft and started backing Creative Commons and working with creators instead of using them.
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