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  • The company I work for is giving us a couple hundred this year to set ourselves up from home and $100 a year for those of us affected by the office closures (moving about half the workforce to permanently remote status). Because leases had to be broken, we were not able to take the sweet-ass chairs (they and other office furniture are part of negotiations) but we were allowed to take any printer paper, office supplies, kitchen gear, etc.

    I think they're doing the best they can with a real shiat situation.
  • I am just hoping that the older folks in leadership recognize what a cost savings this will be.  The whole "you're obviously not working if I can't watch you" model is done.  Look at results and make decisions from there.

    I got a call this week from someone who could not log in remotely.  I granted their access on July 23rd.  They had not attempted to log in until this week, and that was only because their supervisor started pressing them for results.  She gave every excuse in the book to try and explain everything away, but it is clear that she does not intend to do any work.  People like that need to be laid off.  People who cannot join wireless networks in their own homes are not qualified to work remotely and should be replaced.
  • Uh, you can turn that right around and say, the company is greedy, selfish and petty for not supporting
    their employees who are working and producing what is expected of them..It's all a point of view
    situation..
  • I've been teleworking since March. I already pay for my own internet for the whole family anyway, so I don't mind that, and I already had a good computer all ready to go.

    The only thing I'd ask for would be a good ergo chair. I'm still sitting on a wooden kitchen table chair, and my butt goes numb after a while.
  • Kornchex: People who cannot join wireless networks in their own homes are not qualified to work remotely and should be replaced.


    That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.
  • educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.


    Very true.

    In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.
  • Kornchex: educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.

    Very true.

    In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.


    There's a lot of other experience out there, most of it is not yours. I personally work with people who do not have high speed internet at home, but whose office-based job was high-speed internet-dependent.
    These are trusted colleagues - people who are amazing at their jobs - people who work their asses off.

    We definitely should not just let them go. If their job's physical location changes, their employer's efforts to facilitate the job should as well.
  • A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
    The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
    Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

    Since they couldn't work, they got fired.
  • freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
    The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
    Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

    Since they couldn't work, they got fired.


    A ten year old person of color in no way should be working. They should be in school.
  • Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
    The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
    Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

    Since they couldn't work, they got fired.

    A ten year old person of color in no way should be working. They should be in school.


    Piece Of Crap.  Been on fark for years and I still don't know the filters.
  • Mr. Shabooboo: Uh, you can turn that right around and say, the company is greedy, selfish and petty for not supporting
    their employees who are working and producing what is expected of them..It's all a point of view
    situation..


    We have already seen pay cuts to those working from home. I'm gonna side with the workers here. Hell I support users who have to use their own equipment to work remotely and it looks like there is no budget set aside to address this in the future. What happens if their computers or whatever fail? Is it on them or the business that profits from their work?
  • My brother is a contract lawyer, and started working from home well before the pandemic. When the pandemic hit, most of the company employees started working from home. His company thought it was working well, and dumped the office lease they had. Permanent work-from-home status.
    Gotta say I'm jealous, but I don't have a work-from-home career unfortunately.
  • When I used to go into work and drop my daily Havana omelette* on company time, they'd pay for the paper and water and soap.
    Now I gotta pay for this at home?  Fark that.

    *do not google
  • If work from home is permanent I think the restaurant industry is clear and properly farked worse than it already is. I can't speak for other people but I'm not sure I eat prepared food at home more than 6 times a year. As opposed to work and school where it's probably 6 times every two weeks.
  • Businesses are also way more reliable catering customers than individuals.
  • freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
    The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
    Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

    Since they couldn't work, they got fired.


    So, they couldn't pick up a computer off Craigslist for a couple hundo to keep their job? Sounds like they wanted to quit.
  • When I took my new job, my company couriered to me a laptop, two monitors, a dock to link all the equipment together, and an iPad to run the main app we deploy technical solutions through. They also offered employees a modest stipend to spend on faster internet connections. I can't imagine working from home without that kind of support from my company.
  • My wife's company is paying an extra $100 per pay period for work from home expenses. Of course she's working way harder too.
  • educated: Kornchex: educated: That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.

    Very true.

    In my personal experience, 100% of people that cannot join their own wireless networks do not want to join their own wireless networks so they do not have to work.  That definitely is not always the case, so I retract my statement.

    There's a lot of other experience out there, most of it is not yours. I personally work with people who do not have high speed internet at home, but whose office-based job was high-speed internet-dependent.
    These are trusted colleagues - people who are amazing at their jobs - people who work their asses off.

    We definitely should not just let them go. If their job's physical location changes, their employer's efforts to facilitate the job should as well.


    'Not being able to connect' wasn't the important part of Kornchex's cs,b to me. It was 'Apparently not reaching out for help in getting connected for almost 3 months'.
  • My company didn't give me the option.  I still have to go in and check voice, e and snail mail.  But even with the lower revenues, our income hasn't been affected because our utilities and other expenses have dropped.

    The utility companies are the ones watching their corporate revenues drop while people are using their residential rated utilities for business.  Employers that have smart accounting personnel will be shown how much they can save paying utilities to workers at home.  It's a separate check, with supporting documents, so that the employer proves they are just reimbursing expenses.  Tax neutral.

    For example  my job uses Comcast business plan with bundling to get high speed.  It costs the company over $500 a month.  I pay less than $225 a month for the residential package, with the same result.  Cut me a check for any amount over my basic $225.  I can show the same savings for water, electricity, and natural gas.  My employer is doing that for everyone else, but I get nothing because I'm in the office.
  • mrmopar5287: freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
    The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
    Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

    Since they couldn't work, they got fired.

    So, they couldn't pick up a computer off Craigslist for a couple hundo to keep their job? Sounds like they wanted to quit.


    I don't see why a company doesn't just have people come into the office and get their desk PC?!?
    Good lord we trust 6 year olds with $1000+ dollar iPads..A generic tan box pc bought in bulk
    for office work shouldn't be a problem..In fact, just give the employees the things and write it off..
    This isn't brain surgery
  • Serious Black: When I took my new job, my company couriered to me a laptop, two monitors, a dock to link all the equipment together, and an iPad to run the main app we deploy technical solutions through. They also offered employees a modest stipend to spend on faster internet connections. I can't imagine working from home without that kind of support from my company.


    Yep. Even for the gig I just finished, the agency provided the hardware I used (as an aside, it was required for security purposes - NDA-protected content & code) and provided the means by which to return it.

    And that's expected. What isn't expected is to have my agency cover my ISP, or my phone bill - any cost that I would've incurred whether I was working for the agency at home or on site shouldn't be covered at all by my agency.
  • Mr. Shabooboo: mrmopar5287: freddyV: A neighbor was just fired for not being able to work from home.
    The only decent computer they had in the house was their kids laptop they got from school and was being used for that.
    Only other thing they had was a 10 year old POC.

    Since they couldn't work, they got fired.

    So, they couldn't pick up a computer off Craigslist for a couple hundo to keep their job? Sounds like they wanted to quit.

    I don't see why a company doesn't just have people come into the office and get their desk PC?!?
    Good lord we trust 6 year olds with $1000+ dollar iPads..A generic tan box pc bought in bulk
    for office work shouldn't be a problem..In fact, just give the employees the things and write it off..
    This isn't brain surgery


    That was my other obvious question. Work can't issue her a computer? Seriously, not a single laptop for an employee to work from home?
  • I had a remote position with my old job that let me expense a portion of my internet costs, so I'm a little annoyed my current company isn't at least covering the $30 extra a month Comcast charges for unlimited bandwidth. They at least let me grab my 34" ultrawide monitor from my desk at work. I also spent about $300 for a new desk and office chair, and we spent about another $250 for a new modem and router after we tweaked our Comcast plan to boost it up to 600 Mbps while cutting some channels (we dropped HBO and a few other channels because our cell phone plan comes with HBO Max, making regular HBO redundant), but that actually saved us about $20 a month.

    For my wife, they let her take home her office chair and they are letting her order new LaserJet cartridges on the company dime. We had to buy a $150 HP LaserJet on our own dime back in March when this all started and it works great for the moderate level of printing that she does, and I can use it when I need it.
  • educated: Kornchex: People who cannot join wireless networks in their own homes are not qualified to work remotely and should be replaced.

    That's a dangerous thing to say unless it's the opening sentence for you passioned plea for universal basic income.


    It's long past time to stop treating the internet as a luxury and start treating it as the necessity it is today.

    https://tv.avclub.com/the-telecommuni​c​ations-act-of-1996-gave-us-shiatty-cel​l-1798250823
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