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  • You almost certainly don't need an 8 foot bed.  6 foot bed, drop the tailgate, tada...8 feet.
  • toyota everything lasts the longest.
  • Stephen_Falken: toyota everything lasts the longest.


    Yep but also costs above what it should.

    Ram for a work truck. Hands down.
  • Wanebo: Stephen_Falken: toyota everything lasts the longest.

    Yep but also costs above what it should.

    Ram for a work truck. Hands down.


    Ram does have the most affordable work trucks
  • Lots of choices besides what make. How big and or heavy are the things you want to haul? Going to tow a trailer? Do you need or want 4 wheel drive? Regular cab, crew cab, or in between? What's your budget? How many miles do you plan to drive it each year?
  • cameroncrazy1984: Wanebo: Stephen_Falken: toyota everything lasts the longest.

    Yep but also costs above what it should.

    Ram for a work truck. Hands down.

    Ram does have the most affordable work trucks


    And the worst gas mileage.
  • Be sure to get the kind where you can record your hot takes about the SJWs and socialism for your YouTube channel.
  • You can set my truck on fire, roll it down a hill
    But I still wouldn't trade it for a Coupe DeVille
    It's got an eight foot bed that never has to be made
    You know if it weren't for trucks we wouldn't have tailgates
    I met all my wives in traffic jams,
    You know there's something women like about a Pickup Man
  • Fingerware Error: Do you need or want 4 wheel drive?


    Definitely.

    Fingerware Error: Regular cab, crew cab, or in between?


    I rarely, rarely drive around with more than one person.

    Fingerware Error: What's your budget?


    Not a factor.

    Fingerware Error: How many miles do you plan to drive it each year?


    I have a few cars right now. A 2004 has 40,000. A 2018 has 11,000.  A 2019 has 4,000.  Probably not that many. 10,000 a year would be out there.
  • Ow! That was my feelings!: cameroncrazy1984: Wanebo: Stephen_Falken: toyota everything lasts the longest.

    Yep but also costs above what it should.

    Ram for a work truck. Hands down.

    Ram does have the most affordable work trucks

    And the worst gas mileage.


    The VVT actually makes them more the norm in gas mileage.
  • Stephen_Falken: toyota everything lasts the longest.


    I keep hearing that. I like features like "don't kill the pedestrian" too.
  • Shostie: Be sure to get the kind where you can record your hot takes about the SJWs and socialism for your YouTube channel.


    You have to wear mirrored sunglasses in your profile picture though
  • Stephen_Falken: toyota everything lasts the longest.


    Same here. I had a ford 150 that the transmission dropped out of, POS.  If you have extra money and extra time then buy the 150 and the repair bills. It is a cool truck unlike the Tundra.
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  • flucto: 10,000 a year would be out there.


    Don't worry about gas mileage. Fuel cost will be a small part of the cost of ownership.

    Check new and certified pre-owned for each brand you like to see how much they depreciate. The 4 wheel drives now should all have traction control so you don't need a limited slip differential.

    Now you need to drive them to see what fits you. Are all controls where you can easily find them in the dark or in situations where you need to keep your eyes on the road? Can you easily see all the gauges and idiot lights with your hands on the wheel? Do you have blind spots where you can't see traffic as you sit comfortably?
  • Butt stuff.


    /also, get the Toyota if reliability and durability are even marginally important to you
    //also also, more butt stuff
  • Ask around about the construction of the boxes. A lot of the boxes these days are at best aluminum with no reenforcement option (you can always stick in steel with some after market product) but if you think there's going to be a lot of abuse, forewarned is forearmed.

    Apparently Ford's F-150 is the best selling pick up on the planet, Parts will be easy to find. That aside, a mechanic I knew swore by GM transmissions but my knowledge may be out of date here. Who cares? Well, to state the obvious if you're hauling heavy materials, not merely oversized, the transmission is will take a beating.

    * All sound systems are the same.
    * Look at older versions of what you're settling on. See how the fit and finish holds up after a few years.
    * The suspension matters a lot. Most pickups with live axles use leaf springs, Chrysler, typically has to be different and uses coils. Do your research.
    • Two guys I know swear by Toyota.
  • Ow! That was my feelings!: You almost certainly don't need an 8 foot bed.  6 foot bed, drop the tailgate, tada...8 feet.


    Yeah, this.

    What kinds of stuff does subby plan on hauling?
  • Ow! That was my feelings!: You almost certainly don't need an 8 foot bed.  6 foot bed, drop the tailgate, tada...8 feet.


    I kind of disagree. Assuming the 6 foot bed has decent tiedown points, sure. But plywood or a load of studs has a tendency to slide backwards a six foot bed. Where (at least with older ones) the 8 foot bed actually angled toward the cab so everything shifted forward.
  • I've had 2 F-150s. The first was a lease. The second I bought with 71k miles on it. It now has 253. Had to rebuild the trans once and put a new intake manifold on, but that's it besides normal stuff. Still hauls the boat too.
  • Dewey Fidalgo: Ow! That was my feelings!: You almost certainly don't need an 8 foot bed.  6 foot bed, drop the tailgate, tada...8 feet.

    Yeah, this.

    What kinds of stuff does subby plan on hauling?


    pallets of plantains
  • gaslight: • Two guys I know swear by Toyota.


    I do too.

    We've owned Fords and a Dodge.  Even just driving, the Toyota is much pleasanter.   Not sure what the word would be, but I think of it as more "fluid", not like driving a tank.  And that's with 4WD even.

    We have the "access cab" with the suicide doors and a couple of jump seats.   Which works fine for us.  The kids are gone (mostly) and behind the seats works fine for groceries plus a 50# bag of whatever.
  • hobnail: Ow! That was my feelings!: You almost certainly don't need an 8 foot bed.  6 foot bed, drop the tailgate, tada...8 feet.

    I kind of disagree. Assuming the 6 foot bed has decent tiedown points, sure. But plywood or a load of studs has a tendency to slide backwards a six foot bed. Where (at least with older ones) the 8 foot bed actually angled toward the cab so everything shifted forward.


    Well, you can leave that gate up and have them just stick over the gate.  If you have so much lumber that that is impractical, then the load is likely too heavy to slide.

    Also, 8 foot beds are rare, making them more expensive, and parking them can be a biatch.  Especially if you have an extended cab.

    //former contractor who got the job done with a 6 foot bed.
  • I'm for 8 ft beds, Chev trucks, 3 out of 4 pu owned now over 250k miles each. Toyota was great til my oldest rolled it showing off and it burned. Older toyota, 90s, easy repairs, like the chevys. Off lease if you can find. I like longer  campers . Rarely use the four wheel, if ever and go anywhere. Once a road trip in the oldest  2 wheel drive chevy to Guatemala on the spur of the moment from norcal. 4 wheel in crap snow maybe.
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