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  • cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

    So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
    The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
    I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.


    Rights can be (and often are) revoked if you're convicted of a felony. Felons cannot vote in most states not carry guns. It's not right, and definitely not grounds for extrajudicial murder [read: execution]... especially if the suspect's gun was not being brandished at the time.
  • Blathering Idjut: Prussian_Roulette:

    I'm sorry, when did enlightened progressives suddenly care about laws?

    Adorable.

    Opaque conservatives support a president who randomly spits the phrase "LAW & ORDER" like he's suffering from some form of political Tourette's.

    "Law & order" used to be a phrase that included the entirety of the U.S. Justice system where the accused would be arrested, get a fair trial, sometimes with a jury of his/ her peers followed by the justice of society leveled on that person if found guilty.

    It doesn't include short-circuiting the system by administering violent street justice behind a badge (or a Proud Boy t-shirt,) or interfering in said system by installing a mouth-breathing toady as AG to the point of said toady interjecting himself into the justice system to protect the president, his friends and confidants.

    There is no legitimate description of the incident around Reinoehl's death that justifies his execution.  At BEST cops involved should have been immediately suspended.

    Folks in Portland, even the same folks who have take to the streets for months in support of BLM, would have preferred a fair and open trial with the likelihood he would be sent to prison.  Such a trial would've had the benefit of publicly reviewing not just Reinoehl's actions, but the actions of the fascist who came to Portland looking to incite violence and the others like him.

    Liberals are the ones that want a return to law and order.  Conservatives just want vigilantism.


    Rarely have I been so delighted to say, username decidedly does *not* check out
  • ryant123: Ow! That was my feelings!: [Fark user image 768x512]

    Pence isn't carrying that cross though. That's just the cross that always floats nearby and gives him advice like that fairy in Zelda games.

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    I know this is off topic here but I adore it.

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    Oh and as always, fark Trump.
  • Mouser: Bruscar: Why is there no addendum with other House Representatives, who are not former prosecutors, as well as Senators who also support an investigation signing on? Why isn't the list of Congressmen calling for an investigation longer than my arm?

    Because the allegations are bogus and intended solely to sling mud at the President during the election campaign.  Please keep up with the rest of the class.


    Ladies and gentlemen, evidence of the two divergent realities in which people live.

    In one reality the "marshalls" boxed in a car and shot the guy inside immediately before they even identified as LEO. The victim was fleeing law enforcement after shooting a right wing thug in self defense. He was fearful of his life, and rightly so. The evil so called marshals.comitted an extra judicial killing and they bong in jail, as does Bill bar and trump for ordering it.

    In the other reality, the violent crimeinal evil dirt against fired an AR-15 at Leo after bragging online that he had killed and would happily kill these defenders of freedom again. The valiant Marshall's had no choice but to shoot him, and are heros deserving only praise for making America safer. The evil.left is trying to twist this to attack the brave and strong president.

    Somewhere in there is an objective truth. But one side of the political spectrum has been using naked probiganda and... wait which side people think is doing that also depends on which reality stream they are living in.
  • Peter von Nostrand: Laura Ingraham giving Trump a nazi salute at the 2016 RNC. It was not condemned by any Republicans. So, if the nazi shoe fits, Republicans should get used to wearing it.


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  • Prussian_Roulette: Peter von Nostrand: Laura Ingraham giving Trump a nazi salute at the 2016 RNC. It was not condemned by any Republicans. So, if the nazi shoe fits, Republicans should get used to wearing it.

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    Don't even try the white power thing because the white nationalists had not co opted it in 1984
  • orbister: ...
    Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

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    In a thread with some stiff competition, congratulations on the the dumbest post.
  • Blathering Idjut: Liberals are the ones that want a return to law and order.  Conservatives just want vigilantism.


    I would actually amend that to say that what liberals want is Justice. The term law and order has been corrupted by the right to support a system of Oppression, whereby they can induce whatever laws they want in order to hold down certain minorities other groups they find on desirable, unjustly prosecute them in the name of Law & Order.

    And I would say that white liberals want is left the Law & Order as Republicans see it, and more actual justice. As In, Those who commit True Crimes face the consequences, hi to people are being sent to jail for a gram of marijuana in their pocket, black kids arent getting arrested in school for mouthing off the teachers, and people accused of crimes against certain protected classes with right-wing thugs aren't being murdered in the street by law enforcement
  • Ishkur: orbister: Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

    Osama's not American.


    two points you are making...
    1) Its ok to kill proven evil murderers...
    2) Only citizens of a country have rights in same country...
  • Well, all I hear all day long at school is how great marshals are at this or how wonderful marshals did that!  Marshals, marshals, marshals!
  • splelps: austerity101: splelps: austerity101: splelps: PunGent: splelps: I would argue that it's a stretch too far to call anyone not occupying or vying for public office (or in any other way attempting to gain real power) a nazi based off words and no action,

    Counterpoint:  spewing Nazi propaganda helps Nazis, even if the spewer doesn't seek power himself.

    bro that's a bad counterpoint because first of all, how? second, who gets to decide what nazi propaganda is? third, still doesn't justify physical violence. I mean take all the farkers who go on and on about Obama having "no real controversies" or some shiat like that, how many punches do they deserve in light of this drone strike business someone just mentioned? I would still say zero, but if you would too then that would be what we call a double standard

    Exactly what Nazi propaganda are you willing to defend as not actually being Nazi propaganda?  Show your work.

    I'm not gonna let that shiat attempt to frame this your way slide. if something has been posted in the comments for this article that you or someone else has attempted to label as nazi propaganda, I'd be happy to take a look and offer my perspective (as another nobody commenter) on whether or not I believe it to be nazi propaganda. but as far as I can tell that hasn't happened yet

    You are the one who brought it up, jackass.

    the other thing I love is how polite everyone is here. but that's irrelevant. if you simply look at the posts YOU have just included in yours as quotes, you would see that I was not the one to bring up nazi propaganda


    I quote:

    "I would argue that it's a stretch too far to call anyone not occupying or vying for public office (or in any other way attempting to gain real power) a nazi based off words and no action[.]"

    You were the one who brought up Nazi speech.  What Nazis say is referred to as Nazi propaganda, because that's what it is.  So if you want to argue that what Nazis say isn't Nazi propaganda, have at it.

    Oh, and fark your tone-policing, snowflake.
  • chawco: Mouser: Bruscar: Why is there no addendum with other House Representatives, who are not former prosecutors, as well as Senators who also support an investigation signing on? Why isn't the list of Congressmen calling for an investigation longer than my arm?

    Because the allegations are bogus and intended solely to sling mud at the President during the election campaign.  Please keep up with the rest of the class.

    Ladies and gentlemen, evidence of the two divergent realities in which people live.

    In one reality the "marshalls" boxed in a car and shot the guy inside immediately before they even identified as LEO. The victim was fleeing law enforcement after shooting a right wing thug in self defense. He was fearful of his life, and rightly so. The evil so called marshals.comitted an extra judicial killing and they bong in jail, as does Bill bar and trump for ordering it.

    In the other reality, the violent crimeinal evil dirt against fired an AR-15 at Leo after bragging online that he had killed and would happily kill these defenders of freedom again. The valiant Marshall's had no choice but to shoot him, and are heros deserving only praise for making America safer. The evil.left is trying to twist this to attack the brave and strong president.

    Somewhere in there is an objective truth. But one side of the political spectrum has been using naked probiganda and... wait which side people think is doing that also depends on which reality stream they are living in.


    Wow, it sounds like both sides are bad, huh.
  • FarkQued: shpritz: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

    So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
    The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
    I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

    Until it's not.
    Selective prosecution.
    Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with discharging a weapon.

    You're thinking of the incident where he shot the maggot.

    cretinbob is talking about when the marshals chose to execute him on the spot instead of arresting him

    Thanks Marshalls for saving tax dollars on booking, processing, jail, trial, etc.  Don't worry I am sure some body cam footage will show the antifaTHER was in the wrong.


    If there was body cam footage thay exonerated the murderers, we would have seen it already.
  • way south: Interesting...   Why say "a guy" instead of saying that guy was the shiatbag murderer who gunned someone down in Portland and then evaded arrest before giving a vlog interview to brag about it and getting in a shootout with cops?


    Because the guy didn't get a trial yet so legally is presumed innocent.
  • FarkQued: Ishkur: orbister: Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

    Osama's not American.

    two points you are making...
    1) Its ok to kill proven evil murderers...
    2) Only citizens of a country have rights in same country...


    JFC. You can't be that dense. In order to leap to that you have to completely ignore AUMF. Which exists and pretty much explicitly covers OBL. So no, enemies of the US that have declared war and propagated war like attacks against the US and are not US citizens tend not to get afforded some rights. Nor do Americans that cooperate and complicit with enemies and are operating as an enemy of the US in foreign lands.
  • austerity101: chawco: Mouser: Bruscar: Why is there no addendum with other House Representatives, who are not former prosecutors, as well as Senators who also support an investigation signing on? Why isn't the list of Congressmen calling for an investigation longer than my arm?

    Because the allegations are bogus and intended solely to sling mud at the President during the election campaign.  Please keep up with the rest of the class.

    Ladies and gentlemen, evidence of the two divergent realities in which people live.

    In one reality the "marshalls" boxed in a car and shot the guy inside immediately before they even identified as LEO. The victim was fleeing law enforcement after shooting a right wing thug in self defense. He was fearful of his life, and rightly so. The evil so called marshals.comitted an extra judicial killing and they bong in jail, as does Bill bar and trump for ordering it.

    In the other reality, the violent crimeinal evil dirt against fired an AR-15 at Leo after bragging online that he had killed and would happily kill these defenders of freedom again. The valiant Marshall's had no choice but to shoot him, and are heros deserving only praise for making America safer. The evil.left is trying to twist this to attack the brave and strong president.

    Somewhere in there is an objective truth. But one side of the political spectrum has been using naked probiganda and... wait which side people think is doing that also depends on which reality stream they are living in.

    Wow, it sounds like both sides are bad, huh.


    No, you missed the point. It sounds like the other side is bad no matter what. But, I've got my sympathies for sure, with the side that doesn't cheer when LEO kills a guy who is under arrest. BSAB is jsut an excuse people use to tolerate the terribleness on their own sides, usually by the right.
  • strathmeyer: orbister: President Obama and VP Clinton sent a death squad to kill someone for political advantage. It's ugly and unacceptable when Putin does it and it was ugly and unacceptable when they did it.

    The decision to use a fake medical team as cover, which has undoubtedly cost thousands for further lives (mostly children) only compounded the iniquity

    At least you agree we should punish leaders for their murders.


    Absolutely. I would love to see Tony Blair tried for war crimes and if Donald Trump ordered a killing in this case he should undoubtedly be charged with murder.
  • GummyBearOverlord: orbister: ReaverZ: Trump probably has been whining "why can't I kill people when I want like Hillary and Obama!"

    Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

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    Trump revoked the rule to report on civilian deaths, he has order ~2x drone strike in 4 years compared to Obama's 8, and yet you say "But Obama".

    I am glad you are leaving these comments so there is a record to prove what side you were on in the history books. Enjoy telling your grandchildren your role as they look at you with horror in their eyes.


    "Gramps was consistent in his opposition to killing people"#

    "Good old Gramps"

    I can live with that.
  • Peter von Nostrand: orbister: President Obama and VP Clinton sent a death squad to kill someone for political advantage. It's ugly and unacceptable when Putin does it and it was ugly and unacceptable when they did it.

    The decision to use a fake medical team as cover, which has undoubtedly cost thousands for further lives (mostly children) only compounded the iniquity

    The vp was not Clinton. It was Biden. Suffice to say the rest of your reasoning on how the us should not have taken out an enemy combatant is hog wash that even prussia boy isn't derpy enough to make.


    My bad. Secretary of State Clinton. And execution squads are still wrong, mmkay?
  • g.fro: orbister: ...
    Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

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    In a thread with some stiff competition, congratulations on the the dumbest post.


    Thanks.
  • orbister: GummyBearOverlord: orbister: ReaverZ: Trump probably has been whining "why can't I kill people when I want like Hillary and Obama!"

    Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

    [upload.wikimedia.org image 850x566]

    Trump revoked the rule to report on civilian deaths, he has order ~2x drone strike in 4 years compared to Obama's 8, and yet you say "But Obama".

    I am glad you are leaving these comments so there is a record to prove what side you were on in the history books. Enjoy telling your grandchildren your role as they look at you with horror in their eyes.

    "Gramps was consistent in his opposition to killing people"#

    "Good old Gramps"

    I can live with that.


    I will admit I jumped to a conclusion.  Did you vote for Trump?
  • Peter von Nostrand: So no, enemies of the US that have declared war and propagated war like attacks against the US and are not US citizens tend not to get afforded some rights. Nor do Americans that cooperate and complicit with enemies and are operating as an enemy of the US in foreign lands.


    Even the USA has signed up to the Geneva Convention.
  • g.fro: orbister: ...

    Thanks.

    Welcome.


    He's earning it.
  • orbister: ReaverZ: Trump probably has been whining "why can't I kill people when I want like Hillary and Obama!"

    Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

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    You're going to feel a lot better about the fall of fascism in America if you're no longer part of the movement.
    It's time to stop deflecting for a psychopath.
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