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  • So the same people who were saying Randy Weaver's wife and son and all of the Branch Davidians who were killed by the feds are also upset about this...? 

    What's that I hear...? Ah, yes. Crickets.
  • The son of a biatch really is the Teflon Don. If the past four years has taught us anything it is pretty much that it does not matter what he does, he will get away with it.
  • orbister: Peter von Nostrand: So no, enemies of the US that have declared war and propagated war like attacks against the US and are not US citizens tend not to get afforded some rights. Nor do Americans that cooperate and complicit with enemies and are operating as an enemy of the US in foreign lands.

    Even the USA has signed up to the Geneva Convention.


    I must have missed the part in the Geneva Conventions which required a trial before one could kill the enemy. Do you have a reference handy?
  • g.fro: orbister: Peter von Nostrand: So no, enemies of the US that have declared war and propagated war like attacks against the US and are not US citizens tend not to get afforded some rights. Nor do Americans that cooperate and complicit with enemies and are operating as an enemy of the US in foreign lands.

    Even the USA has signed up to the Geneva Convention.

    I must have missed the part in the Geneva Conventions which required a trial before one could kill the enemy. Do you have a reference handy?


    Apparently you also missed the parts about declaring war and designating enemies before killing them.
  • Nothing says 'Presidential' like smack talking about ordering a hit.
  • Lie-U? Is there a better name for a politician?
  • MBooda: ...

    Apparently you also missed the parts about declaring war and designating enemies before killing them.


    Probably because that's not in the Geneva Conventions.
  • way south: Interesting...   Why say "a guy" instead of saying that guy was the shiatbag murderer who gunned someone down in Portland and then evaded arrest before giving a vlog interview to brag about it and getting in a shootout with cops?


    Every time you post, I wonder how I ever thought you were smart
  • You can always count on Trump to advertise his misdeeds. If he hadn't brought this event up at his stupid rally, it would've likely been buried. The idiot is incapable of keeping his mouth shut. Anything for ratings, anything for attention. It's incredible the damage this imbecile has done to the Presidency. But I'm glad he's too stupid to get anything right. The more he talks it seems more likely that people want to walk away from him.

    I'm hoping there will be a bonfire full of MAGA hats and Trump flags in November.
  • orezona: So the same people who were saying Randy Weaver's wife and son and all of the Branch Davidians who were killed by the feds are also upset about this...? 

    What's that I hear...? Ah, yes. Crickets.


    There's making up arguments then there's this. It's like a meta strawman. Impressive.
  • FarkQued: Ishkur: orbister: Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

    Osama's not American.

    two points you are making...
    1) Its ok to kill proven evil murderers...
    2) Only citizens of a country have rights in same country...


    that is pretty much how the world work.
  • orbister: Peter von Nostrand: orbister: President Obama and VP Clinton sent a death squad to kill someone for political advantage. It's ugly and unacceptable when Putin does it and it was ugly and unacceptable when they did it.

    The decision to use a fake medical team as cover, which has undoubtedly cost thousands for further lives (mostly children) only compounded the iniquity

    The vp was not Clinton. It was Biden. Suffice to say the rest of your reasoning on how the us should not have taken out an enemy combatant is hog wash that even prussia boy isn't derpy enough to make.

    My bad. Secretary of State Clinton. And execution squads are still wrong, mmkay?


    you are using a lot of word but do not know the meaning of those words. Please stop using words wrong, it hurts their feelings,
  • Man, a lot of Trump humpers in here deferring their God-Emperor and whining about Obama today.
  • austerity101: PunGent: splelps: I would argue that it's a stretch too far to call anyone not occupying or vying for public office (or in any other way attempting to gain real power) a nazi based off words and no action,

    Counterpoint:  spewing Nazi propaganda helps Nazis, even if the spewer doesn't seek power himself.

    This is absolutely not against you, but I really hate this quibbling over who is and isn't a Nazi.  The number of times in my life I've seen someone called a Nazi who didn't at all even slightly deserve it I can count on one hand.  Except for "feminazi," because that was a thing for a long-ass time and it was always stupid and misogynistic and deliberately dishonest.  But actually calling someone a "Nazi"?  This isn't something that I've seen people just throw casually around like it doesn't matter.  People have certainly been calling people Nazis more in the last few years than I've ever seen people do it before, but that's because more people are unabashedly acting like Nazis, not because we're playing too fast and loose with the word.

    If you find yourself taking exception to someone being called a Nazi, you're probably a Nazi yourself, or you're damn close enough that we might as well call you that.  People who help and collaborate with Nazis are Nazis.  Everyone else knows exactly what's being said and why.


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  • spiral_fishcake: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

    So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
    The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
    I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

    Rights can be (and often are) revoked if you're convicted of a felony. Felons cannot vote in most states not carry guns. It's not right, and definitely not grounds for extrajudicial murder [read: execution]... especially if the suspect's gun was not being brandished at the time.


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    No. No, he wasn't.

    You can argue about the current use of the term, but back then, it was an actual group, which as part of the KPD, was mostly in concentration camps or dead.
  • Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.


    He the exact opposite of King Midas. Everything he touches turns to 💩
  • cretinbob: FarkQued: The Envoy: FarkQued: shpritz: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

    So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
    The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
    I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

    Until it's not.
    Selective prosecution.
    Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with discharging a weapon.

    You're thinking of the incident where he shot the maggot.

    cretinbob is talking about when the marshals chose to execute him on the spot instead of arresting him

    Thanks Marshalls for saving tax dollars on booking, processing, jail, trial, etc.  Don't worry I am sure some body cam footage will show the antifaTHER was in the wrong.

    Thanks West Virginia for saving taxpayer dollars by realising that you can't teach a turnip and ending this perambulating potato's education in 3rd Grade.

    Chad Smith and Chase Cutler, who were working on cars nearby Thursday, said an unmarked SUV had been parked on School Street for a while when that SUV and another converged on a man in a vehicle at the apartment complex. Smith and Cutler moved onto a grassy area about 50 yards away to watch what was happening.

    The man got out of his vehicle and began to fire what they believe was an assault rifle at the SUVs. They said they heard 40 or 50 shots, then officers returned fire, hitting the man.

    "It reminded me of a video game," Cutler said.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theol​ympian.com/news/local/crime/article245​485220.html

    lolwut?FarkQued: The Envoy: FarkQued: shpritz: waxbeans: cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

    So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
    The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
    I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.

    Until it's not.
    Selective prosecution.
    Discharging a weapon in the city is against the law. But, seldom does self-defense shootings get charged with dischar ...


    If you've seen the pics of his car, it's clear that M. Reinohl never made it out of the vehicle. I'm sure someone else here has pointed out that the rounds fired by the "marshals" that struck the car were aimed head-level at the front windshield. I mean, the pictures of the car alone practically prove this was a hit. Trump is nothing more than a real-world B movie mobster. And that is frightening as hell.
  • Peter von Nostrand: Prussian_Roulette: Invisible Obama: Prussian_Roulette:

    Dude, put the FOX News down.

    I'll keep this short, since I don't know what the Fark "wall of text" limiters are...

    1. "Defund the Police", doesn't mean that anyone wants to completely abolish all law enforcement.

    It's literally the first quote on the Defund the Police website: "Abolishing the police does not mean the abolishing of community safety."  People are explicitly advocating for it, and not on Qanon.  Even members of Congress have openly called for it.

    2. "ACAB" is a short acronym or slogan that is an indictment of modern American law enforcement culture, of the idea that there's pervasive racism in American policing and a strong "us vs. them" atmosphere where police now see themselves more as an occupying army rather than members of the community there to help people, and they have no problem lying, deceiving, or misleading everyday people if it helps them get more arrests, rather than helping people and helping the community.

    Well, "ALL cops are bad" certainly does establish an "us vs them" culture, doesn't it?  In fact, if ALL cops are bad, then how do you justify NOT abolishing the police?

    3. Punch a Nazi is good...Letting them walk around and spread their ideology is sewing ideological poison, spreading toxic memes like an infectious mental virus. . .the only proper response to Nazis is swift and overwhelming force.

    I can't put my finger on why you're not convincing me you have the moral high ground here - oh, wait...

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    4. The vast majority of leftists and progressives in the country really didn't give a shiat about CHAZ....  Also, we never heard much in the way of complaints from the residents of that area objecting to it.  They seemed fine with it.

    They did, huh?  Then I guess they're not worried about their Yelp ratings, either.

    Laura Ingraham giving Trump a nazi salute at the 2016 RNC. It was not condemned by any Republicans. So, if the nazi shoe fits, Republicans should get used to wearing it.

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    What the holy Frick is going through her mind when she decided to do this.  It honestly breaks a piece of me every time I see this crap.

    I mean redneck ignorant meth heads yes.  But otherwise educated successful people?....... Heartbreaking
  • lmb: Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.

    He the exact opposite of King Midas. Everything he touches turns to 💩


    He's got the Charmin touch.
  • The 22 political murders committed by left-wing offenders from late 1919 to mid-1922 led to 38 convictions, including 10 executions and prison sentences averaging 15 years.

    By contrast, the 354 political murders committed by right-wing offenders in the same period led to 24 convictions, no executions at all, and an average sentence of 4 months, with 34 right-wing murderers who confessed to their crimes were actually acquitted by the courts.
  • Peter von Nostrand: FarkQued: Ishkur: orbister: Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:

    Osama's not American.

    two points you are making...
    1) Its ok to kill proven evil murderers...
    2) Only citizens of a country have rights in same country...

    JFC. You can't be that dense. In order to leap to that you have to completely ignore AUMF. Which exists and pretty much explicitly covers OBL. So no, enemies of the US that have declared war and propagated war like attacks against the US and are not US citizens tend not to get afforded some rights. Nor do Americans that cooperate and complicit with enemies and are operating as an enemy of the US in foreign lands.


    So what would you call war like attacks?
    1) Burning down city blocks, destroying businesses and endangering innocent people?
    2) Threatening and killing police officers, law enforcement, duly elected government officials?
    3) Tearing down historic markers and statues?
    4) Creating no go zones within a city, void of rule of law and government authority?
    5) Murders, rapes, in same no go zones?
    6) Attempting and succeeding to destroy public government buildings, offices?

    I am not excusing injustice, bad people doing illegal actions should be arrested and tried and punished no matter whom, through law enforcement and adjudication.

    I am also not excusing rioters to be free from same laws and rules because of injustice concerns.  Two wrongs do not make a right.

    Most of the arguments I see on these boards are so insular and biased that there is no ability to even see the whole picture.  Any attempt to present a different perspective is akin to resisting authoritarianism.  Those touting Diversity seek only to celebrate those flavors of diversity they choose.
  • Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.


    I have to say this. No one ever does and I will say this once at least. There needs to be an exception to the victims..the victims he raped. He did more than touch them and hopefully not all are dead or are corrupted.
  • cretinbob: easier to post links from PC

    So the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.
    The guy did have a gun in his pocket.
    I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.


    What does the marshall who is a real marshall and not the "deputized" ones say?
  • RottenEggs: Yeah , but that was just a show . It never really happened  . Although the mainstream media didn't have much to say about it this week . Those that did just tried to spin it off .

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