Peter von Nostrand: Prussian_Roulette: Invisible Obama: Prussian_Roulette:Dude, put the FOX News down.I'll keep this short, since I don't know what the Fark "wall of text" limiters are...1. "Defund the Police", doesn't mean that anyone wants to completely abolish all law enforcement.It's literally the first quote on the Defund the Police website: "Abolishing the police does not mean the abolishing of community safety." People are explicitly advocating for it, and not on Qanon. Even members of Congress have openly called for it.2. "ACAB" is a short acronym or slogan that is an indictment of modern American law enforcement culture, of the idea that there's pervasive racism in American policing and a strong "us vs. them" atmosphere where police now see themselves more as an occupying army rather than members of the community there to help people, and they have no problem lying, deceiving, or misleading everyday people if it helps them get more arrests, rather than helping people and helping the community.Well, "ALL cops are bad" certainly does establish an "us vs them" culture, doesn't it? In fact, if ALL cops are bad, then how do you justify NOT abolishing the police?3. Punch a Nazi is good...Letting them walk around and spread their ideology is sewing ideological poison, spreading toxic memes like an infectious mental virus. . .the only proper response to Nazis is swift and overwhelming force.I can't put my finger on why you're not convincing me you have the moral high ground here - oh, wait...[Fark user image image 212x256]4. The vast majority of leftists and progressives in the country really didn't give a shiat about CHAZ.... Also, we never heard much in the way of complaints from the residents of that area objecting to it. They seemed fine with it.They did, huh? Then I guess they're not worried about their Yelp ratings, either.Laura Ingraham giving Trump a nazi salute at the 2016 RNC. It was not condemned by any Republicans. So, if the nazi shoe fits, Republicans should get used to wearing it.[Fark user image image 425x275]
lmb: Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.He the exact opposite of King Midas. Everything he touches turns to 💩
Peter von Nostrand: FarkQued: Ishkur: orbister: Two politicians watching an extrajudicial execution they ordered:Osama's not American.two points you are making...1) Its ok to kill proven evil murderers...2) Only citizens of a country have rights in same country...JFC. You can't be that dense. In order to leap to that you have to completely ignore AUMF. Which exists and pretty much explicitly covers OBL. So no, enemies of the US that have declared war and propagated war like attacks against the US and are not US citizens tend not to get afforded some rights. Nor do Americans that cooperate and complicit with enemies and are operating as an enemy of the US in foreign lands.
Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.
cretinbob: easier to post links from PCSo the marshal deputies give conflicting accounts.The guy did have a gun in his pocket.I have been assured that carrying a gun is an inalienable right and not at all illegal.
RottenEggs: Yeah , but that was just a show . It never really happened . Although the mainstream media didn't have much to say about it this week . Those that did just tried to spin it off .
Roshamon: Albert911emt: Everything Trump touches dies or is corrupted.Trump would be Sauron, but only if Sauron was a big, angry, flaming-orange vagina
AllCatsAreBeautiful: Duh. Everyone knew this was a targeted assassination of an American citizen, on American soil, by the Feds. They were never going to arrest him and grant him due process in a criminal court./I'm just surprised they didn't drone him instead.
smunns: I guess whatever they have to do to derail an election is fair game for those people.
GummyBearOverlord: orbister:"Gramps was consistent in his opposition to killing people"#"Good old Gramps"I can live with that.I will admit I jumped to a conclusion. Did you vote for Trump?
g.fro: orbister: Peter von Nostrand: So no, enemies of the US that have declared war and propagated war like attacks against the US and are not US citizens tend not to get afforded some rights. Nor do Americans that cooperate and complicit with enemies and are operating as an enemy of the US in foreign lands.Even the USA has signed up to the Geneva Convention.I must have missed the part in the Geneva Conventions which required a trial before one could kill the enemy. Do you have a reference handy?
orbister: ...There's a bit about declarations of war and another bit about treatment of prisoners. Are you quite sure that you want to go down the road of summary execution for perceived enemies of the state?
g.fro: Which of the four Geneva Conventions covers declarations of war?
orbister: g.fro: Which of the four Geneva Conventions covers declarations of war?The first one. Article 2.Signatories are really not allowed to go around killing at will and then saying "We did a double secret declaration of war", which explains why the US is disliked so much around the world.
g.fro: It says nothing about declarations of war being required, and even acknowledges that undeclared wars or conflicts are still covered.
orbister: ...Exactly, so your position that America can do anything it likes as long as it hasn't actually declared war is nonsense'
g.fro: orbister: ...Exactly, so your position that America can do anything it likes as long as it hasn't actually declared war is nonsense'WTF are you talking about? How is that my position?My position is that in war, you kill your enemies. I never said the USA doesn't have to follow the rules; I'm saying the USA didn't break the rules.Oh, and just as further proof you don't know what you are talking about, the conflict with Al Qaeda was declared.Authorization for Use of Military Force 2001
MBooda: ...Great, now we get to quibble about whether an "authorization for use of military force" is the same thing as a "declaration of conflict" or a "declaration of war."/sorry, gotta run, i'm gonna hand out speeding tickets at daytona
g.fro: MBooda: ...Great, now we get to quibble about whether an "authorization for use of military force" is the same thing as a "declaration of conflict" or a "declaration of war."/sorry, gotta run, i'm gonna hand out speeding tickets at daytonaThere is nothing to quibble about: from the perspective of international law, there is no difference. Sorry if you have trouble with that fact.
MBooda: ...Thanks. So, how are things going in your judicial chambers at The Hague?