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  •  I lost a few fellow scouts in the 70s.
    Things happen.
    Glad to be alive, and that is a sad tale.
  • How very sad.

    I wonder if they might award him anything posthumously?

    /far too young
  • shiat, when I was a Scout that could have been me.  We loved sleeping in snow caves.  It was funner than shiat

    My heart goes out to his family, friends, and troop.
  • Watch out where the huskies, and polar bears, go.
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  • Built igloos when I was a kid and lived to tell the tale.  Was a scout leader for many years and never built a snow shelter in that time, but some of the ones I saw other troops build were a bit frightening.  It's not hard to build one correctly, but it's also really easy to build one that will kill you in your sleep, and the your muffled screams will never be heard through the snow.
  • vudukungfu: I lost a few fellow scouts in the 70s.
    Things happen.
    Glad to be alive, and that is a sad tale.


    You were a terrible scoutmaster.
  • I grew up in that area of CO and was caught in two avalanches and one collapsed snow cave. it is much crappier than you would think. when you are stuck in packed snow you literally cannot move and can barely breathe. it is panic inducing.
    yay for the friends that dug me out. but for their grace go I.
  • There was something that I believe was on Nickelodeon in the late eighties or very early nineties. It had older elementary school/younger middle school aged kids on a field trip somewhere in a snowstorm and something happens, maybe the driver had a heart attack or something like that and there was an accident. From what I remember there weren't any adults around.

    Some of the windows on the bus are busted so the cold gets in pretty easily which causes some of the kids to go out and build a snow cave to try and stay alive. There is an older kid on the bus who refuses to join the other kids because he is a tough guy and doesn't want to act as if he is cold while pretending that the snow cave isn't going to be any warmer.

    Maybe it was originally an Afterschool Special? Does this ring a bell with anybody?
  • BafflerMeal: vudukungfu: I lost a few fellow scouts in the 70s.
    Things happen.
    Glad to be alive, and that is a sad tale.

    You were a terrible scoutmaster.


    A good scoutmaster never leaves his scout's behind.
  • MBooda: BafflerMeal: vudukungfu: I lost a few fellow scouts in the 70s.
    Things happen.
    Glad to be alive, and that is a sad tale.

    You were a terrible scoutmaster.

    A good scoutmaster never leaves his scout's behind.


    And now I'm wiping a mouthful of beer off the floor. Thanks, pal.

    /I really needed that laugh, you magnificent bastard
  • WoodyHayes: There was something that I believe was on Nickelodeon in the late eighties or very early nineties. It had older elementary school/younger middle school aged kids on a field trip somewhere in a snowstorm and something happens, maybe the driver had a heart attack or something like that and there was an accident. From what I remember there weren't any adults around.

    Some of the windows on the bus are busted so the cold gets in pretty easily which causes some of the kids to go out and build a snow cave to try and stay alive. There is an older kid on the bus who refuses to join the other kids because he is a tough guy and doesn't want to act as if he is cold while pretending that the snow cave isn't going to be any warmer.

    Maybe it was originally an Afterschool Special? Does this ring a bell with anybody?


    Related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasan​t​_Hill_bus_tragedy ?
  • Kinda glad I lived too far away from snow country for that to be an option when I was a scout.  We had a pretty biatchin' camp in the mountains but we did our stuff in spring and summer.  It was also used for "Science Camp" by nearby schools during jr. high.  One of my friends saw his first boobs at that camp when a girl's tube top malfunctioned.
  • Many years ago I built a snow cave with some people in a snow camping class. Took forever, got several layers of clothes wet. It was about 3 feet high inside but by the morning it was only 2 feet high. Dunno, think it the standard snow pit shelter with boughs on top might be safer and easier to dig out.
  • Funny, I was a scout in AK, never built a snow cave with them. Built a bunch on my own. More like snow bunkers that were apart of huge sprawling trench system along a sled luge course. I think the trick is to dig them shallow enough that you'd be able to break out if they collapsed. Seems ppl don't know that snow is heavy AF. After several snows, they'd have a lot of weight on them, but we cleared them off, and they were always small domes, just big enough for a kid or two.
    Kinda miss deep snow. Sucks that a kid died sleeping in one.
  • 🤕
    Electricity.
    Buildings.
    Gas.
    And on an on, was made for a reason. Yeah. Yeah. What if something happens? Yada yada yada yada.
    Well something happened alright. And it wasn't a emergency. It was chosen.
    And it costed a life. And all the sads don't undo the choice to risk your life and die.
    It's like innovation and advances are done for fun. Not because before those innovations people just died regularly. Even trained  people with a plan died regularly.
    But. I guess he died doing what he loved.
    🙄🥃
  • Prof. Frink: WoodyHayes: There was something that I believe was on Nickelodeon in the late eighties or very early nineties. It had older elementary school/younger middle school aged kids on a field trip somewhere in a snowstorm and something happens, maybe the driver had a heart attack or something like that and there was an accident. From what I remember there weren't any adults around.

    Some of the windows on the bus are busted so the cold gets in pretty easily which causes some of the kids to go out and build a snow cave to try and stay alive. There is an older kid on the bus who refuses to join the other kids because he is a tough guy and doesn't want to act as if he is cold while pretending that the snow cave isn't going to be any warmer.

    Maybe it was originally an Afterschool Special? Does this ring a bell with anybody?

    Related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasant​_Hill_bus_tragedy ?


    WTF?
    Small stove for heat? In a building!
    Was left for weather so cold walking in it kill someone in just 3 miles.
    WTF?
    You could have huddled around the small stove in probably not died.
    And even if you die of carbon monoxide poisoning that would have been better than freezing. WTF.
    Man. F++k ppl
  • What the hell is it with the body count on NM Scouts? This seems to happen... often. They should use "Hunger Games" recruitment posters or something.
  • Hay...... WTF?
    Cold and dead?
    You're not dead till you warm and dead!  Someone messed up.
  • Prof. Frink: WoodyHayes: There was something that I believe was on Nickelodeon in the late eighties or very early nineties. It had older elementary school/younger middle school aged kids on a field trip somewhere in a snowstorm and something happens, maybe the driver had a heart attack or something like that and there was an accident. From what I remember there weren't any adults around.

    Some of the windows on the bus are busted so the cold gets in pretty easily which causes some of the kids to go out and build a snow cave to try and stay alive. There is an older kid on the bus who refuses to join the other kids because he is a tough guy and doesn't want to act as if he is cold while pretending that the snow cave isn't going to be any warmer.

    Maybe it was originally an Afterschool Special? Does this ring a bell with anybody?

    Related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasant​_Hill_bus_tragedy ?


    Very well could have been. I don't believe I've heard of that before, thanks.
  • WoodyHayes: There was something that I believe was on Nickelodeon in the late eighties or very early nineties. It had older elementary school/younger middle school aged kids on a field trip somewhere in a snowstorm and something happens, maybe the driver had a heart attack or something like that and there was an accident. From what I remember there weren't any adults around.

    Some of the windows on the bus are busted so the cold gets in pretty easily which causes some of the kids to go out and build a snow cave to try and stay alive. There is an older kid on the bus who refuses to join the other kids because he is a tough guy and doesn't want to act as if he is cold while pretending that the snow cave isn't going to be any warmer.

    Maybe it was originally an Afterschool Special? Does this ring a bell with anybody?


    It rings a bell, but I don't remember any more about it than than you do.
  • WoodyHayes: Prof. Frink: WoodyHayes: There was something that I believe was on Nickelodeon in the late eighties or very early nineties. It had older elementary school/younger middle school aged kids on a field trip somewhere in a snowstorm and something happens, maybe the driver had a heart attack or something like that and there was an accident. From what I remember there weren't any adults around.

    Some of the windows on the bus are busted so the cold gets in pretty easily which causes some of the kids to go out and build a snow cave to try and stay alive. There is an older kid on the bus who refuses to join the other kids because he is a tough guy and doesn't want to act as if he is cold while pretending that the snow cave isn't going to be any warmer.

    Maybe it was originally an Afterschool Special? Does this ring a bell with anybody?

    Related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasant​_Hill_bus_tragedy ?

    Very well could have been. I don't believe I've heard of that before, thanks.


    In case you were wondering "couldn't you just stay huddled at the other end of the bus?", here's the bus. Really.

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  • Camping in Colorado is the name of my When in Rome cover band.
  • Bslim: Camping in Colorado is the name of my When in Rome cover band.


    Interesting. Walk Like Romanians is my all-Italian Bangles cover band.
  • Sad story.

    I went snow caving a few times. Our scoutmaster was lame, always had papers to grade on weekends instead of doing scout stuff. But his laziness worked out.

    Near the canyon peak there were a couple spots where the wind made really deep solid snow and there would usually be a couple caves of various sizes already dug out. He would drive up and scout them out, and leave a note in front of a good one, reading, "Please reserve Friday night for troop 86." People did, usually.

    A good snow cave has levels to keep the wind out, and to drain out the coldest air. The coolest cave had a crawl way a few feet stepping up into a tent-sized room tall enough to kneel in. There were three more tunnels with stepped up into rooms almost as big but not as tall. There were little nooks dug into the walls for candles, and a tea candle would keep it fairly warm and looked cool too.

    But yeah, I kept having thoughts of it collapsing.
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