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  • Another reason for the EPA to have teeth. Real teeth.
  • I used TCE daily during my military service, what could possibly go wrong?  


    /csb
  • This is why I never clean or polish anything.
  • My first experience with TCE? I was going to clean some metal parts in a bucket of the stuff. Not being completely stupid, I put on latex gloves. In ten seconds, the gloves dissolved, and my hands began to really burn. I washed them off, but it was already too late. I could actually watch welts rising on the backs of my hands from the mix of TCE and dissolved latex.
  • iToad: My first experience with TCE? I was going to clean some metal parts in a bucket of the stuff. Not being completely stupid, I put on latex gloves. In ten seconds, the gloves dissolved, and my hands began to really burn. I washed them off, but it was already too late. I could actually watch welts rising on the backs of my hands from the mix of TCE and dissolved latex.


    For that deep clean feeling and belached white bones. :(
  • Every spring for the past 20 years I've considered doing a thorough carpet cleaning. Glad I've decided no every year. Just buy another throw rug to cover the new stain. I'll buy all new carpet eventually. Maybe dark brown with a subtle pattern.
  • Bennie Crabtree: iToad: My first experience with TCE? I was going to clean some metal parts in a bucket of the stuff. Not being completely stupid, I put on latex gloves. In ten seconds, the gloves dissolved, and my hands began to really burn. I washed them off, but it was already too late. I could actually watch welts rising on the backs of my hands from the mix of TCE and dissolved latex.

    For that deep clean feeling and belached white bones. :(


    Don't forget: If you're using the stuff regularly, as part of your job, then you probably work for minimum wage. You can BARELY afford a place to live and a vehicle, if you eat nothing but ramen.
    But if you really want to change that, you should spend several hundred thousand dollars on college courses. Sleep in your car; if you don't sleep in your car, in front of your school/place of employment, then you're not REALLY serious about getting ahead.

    Also, those farkers who laugh at you because of it? They rule, you suck. Deal with it, loser.

    /Some people unironically think that last sentence is truth
  • a chemical compound used in industrial degreasing, dry-cleaning and household products such as some shoe polishes and carpet cleaners

    Oh no, what will I use to polish my shoes now.
  • iToad: My first experience with TCE? I was going to clean some metal parts in a bucket of the stuff. Not being completely stupid, I put on latex gloves. In ten seconds, the gloves dissolved, and my hands began to really burn. I washed them off, but it was already too late. I could actually watch welts rising on the backs of my hands from the mix of TCE and dissolved latex.


    I once cleaned the starter on my riding mower by spraying the shiat out of it with chlorinated brake cleaner (TCE-based). I got it all over my forearm. I didn't feel anything at first, but after half an hour or so, my arm started burning.

    /Luckily, it never progressed beyond slight burning.
    //Probably gave myself arm cancer, though.
    ///Starter worked fine.
  • They have plenty of alternatives to TCE now. If you're still using it you're part of the dark ages.

    Switch to something new and safe that we don't know the side effects of yet.
  • Patmaniac: Every spring for the past 20 years I've considered doing a thorough carpet cleaning. Glad I've decided no every year. Just buy another throw rug to cover the new stain. I'll buy all new carpet eventually. Maybe dark brown with a subtle pattern.


    It was expensive, but I put down a tile floor throughout my entire house. It was one of my better improvements. Now I don't worry about staining or wear.
  • Begoggle: a chemical compound used in industrial degreasing, dry-cleaning and household products such as some shoe polishes and carpet cleaners

    Oh no, what will I use to polish my shoes now.


    Toronto is overflowing with drycleaning shops. It's cheap, it's everywhere, and they're always full.
  • We were banned from using this crap 40 years ago. Not because of any neuro issues but because it can produce phosgene when heated. That shiat will seriously fark you up.
  • I'm curious if they have done a study focusing on dry-cleaning workers. You'd get everything you want over the past 70 years in that population.
  • Patmaniac: Every spring for the past 20 years I've considered doing a thorough carpet cleaning. Glad I've decided no every year. Just buy another throw rug to cover the new stain. I'll buy all new carpet eventually. Maybe dark brown with a subtle pattern.


    But every year that makes your ceiling lower. If your not careful you'll soon be bumping your head.
  • The ironic thing about TCE is that it replaced something even worse, Carbon Tetrachloride. If you are of a certain age and grew up in the industrial Midwest, you would be familiar with Carbon Tet. It had a very bad reputation.
  • If it's caused by Dry Cleaning, shoe polish, and household cleaners, then the rates of Parkinsons should be plummeting.  It used to be people went to work in dry-cleaned suits with polished shows and homemakers cleaned a lot.

    Also since the US uses it a lot and other countries have banned it, show me the study that shows US Parkinsons is going up while the other country is going down.

    Nonsense story published by the Guardian sounds a lot like nonsense.
  • This is why I stick to straight benzene for all my organic solvent needs.  I prefer knowing what cancers I will get.
  • jjorsett: Patmaniac: Every spring for the past 20 years I've considered doing a thorough carpet cleaning. Glad I've decided no every year. Just buy another throw rug to cover the new stain. I'll buy all new carpet eventually. Maybe dark brown with a subtle pattern.

    It was expensive, but I put down a tile floor throughout my entire house. It was one of my better improvements. Now I don't worry about staining or wear.


    I did my lower level 100% in ceramic about 15 years ago. Super easy to maintain, and it's been bone dry down there ever since.
  • jjorsett: Patmaniac: Every spring for the past 20 years I've considered doing a thorough carpet cleaning. Glad I've decided no every year. Just buy another throw rug to cover the new stain. I'll buy all new carpet eventually. Maybe dark brown with a subtle pattern.

    It was expensive, but I put down a tile floor throughout my entire house. It was one of my better improvements. Now I don't worry about staining or wear.


    I've gotten to the point where I just find carpet "weird" inside a house. Wall to wall carpet is clean what, once a year for a few days maybe after you rent one of those machines? That shiat gets gross.
  • In the Army, we used trike like Frank's hot sauce. We put that shiat on everything.
  • Some one I work with started showing symptoms a couple of months ago and went to get a diagnosis.  It's Parkinson's and man I feel for the dude.
  • wildcardjack: I'm curious if they have done a study focusing on dry-cleaning workers. You'd get everything you want over the past 70 years in that population.


    They would, but there aren't any old dry cleaners..

    Patmaniac: Every spring for the past 20 years I've considered doing a thorough carpet cleaning. Glad I've decided no every year. Just buy another throw rug to cover the new stain. I'll buy all new carpet eventually. Maybe dark brown with a subtle pattern.


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  • Begoggle: a chemical compound used in industrial degreasing, dry-cleaning and household products such as some shoe polishes and carpet cleaners

    Oh no, what will I use to polish my shoes now.


    When in doubt, rub chunky peanut butter on it.
  • jvl: If it's caused by Dry Cleaning, shoe polish, and household cleaners, then the rates of Parkinsons should be plummeting.  It used to be people went to work in dry-cleaned suits with polished shows and homemakers cleaned a lot.

    Also since the US uses it a lot and other countries have banned it, show me the study that shows US Parkinsons is going up while the other country is going down.

    Nonsense story published by the Guardian sounds a lot like nonsense.


    Even taken at face value, never a good idea with limey yellow (yellow-green?) journalism, the numbers are not even troubling.
    A very rare disease appear at 6x the normal incidence with long-term occupational exposure?
    Which really means the average joe who uses carpet cleaner or polishes his shoes a couple times per year has an added risk somewhere in the realm of the ISS landing on them.
    -
    /If it doesn't turn out to be another "menial occupations with long hours that pay for shiat lead to poor health outcomes" story
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