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  • So 2 kids died, two more were invilved, but only three charges of child endangerment, but two manslaughters and an assualt with a deadly weapon. That's the one that gets me, is it in refference to the backhoe, what this intentional? Manslaughter would imply the death was not intentional, so was the dumping the people out?
  • A former coworker of mine's nephew was killed when he was about 6. He was riding on the tractor with his dad while his dad bushogged the pasture and fell off. It was about 25 years ago

    Tractors are not playtoys. Keep your kids off of them and away from them.
  • At least he didn't have a gun..or did he?  That's what everyone wants to know!
  • JK8Fan: A former coworker of mine's nephew was killed when he was about 6. He was riding on the tractor with his dad while his dad bushogged the pasture and fell off. It was about 25 years ago

    Tractors are not playtoys. Keep your kids off of them and away from them.


    This. It pisses me off when I see somebody on a riding mower carrying a kid in one arm. Usually without eye protection. I get it that it keeps you from wondering where the kid is when you're backing up but you're just teaching the kid that the mower is a giant toy.
  • Bigdogdaddy: At least he didn't have a gun..or did he?  That's what everyone wants to know!


    I wish morons like you would stop dragging your gun worship into every tragic death or accident.

    Btw, it doesn't make you funny, it makes you an asshole.
  • At 7 and 11 they should have been driving the tractor. Who do you think is farmin America's crops everyday after 3pm? Not unusual to see kids driving the tractors on major roads getting from field to field.
  • There are very few safe ways to interact with agricultural / industrial plant safely & many, many lethal ones...

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  •  If the kids had a front end loader this could have been avoided.

    Only a good kid with a front end loader can stop a bad man with a backhoe.
  • Grandpa in the town I grew up in had his grandkid on the tractor tire fender while driving. Kid fell off, got run over, died.

    Buddy of mine had his leg nearly ripped off by a PTO in high school. Both these things happened around 1985 or so.

    Farmers are common clay.

    Tractors are dangerous.

    T'was ever thus.
  • It's all laugh and giggles until the bucket tips.

    "Kids are in it. Don't touch that lever.  Kids are in it. Don't touch that lever.   Kids are in it. Don't touch that lever.  Oh what the hell."
  • tjsands1118: So 2 kids died, two more were invilved, but only three charges of child endangerment, but two manslaughters and an assualt with a deadly weapon. That's the one that gets me, is it in refference to the backhoe, what this intentional? Manslaughter would imply the death was not intentional, so was the dumping the people out?


    The two are not mutually exclusive.  You can assault someone with a deadly weapon without intending to kill them.  For instance if you go, "Hey I'll shoot that beer can off your head!" - genuinely try to do so - and pop them between the eyes. Not quite the same, no - but you can have both.  The assault seems a weird charge though, unless there's something major to this we're not hearing, which is always possible.  Not a completely unwarranted charge, just odd.  I'd kinda more expect depraved indifference.  That's for voluntary conduct that any sane person should know is liable to cause injury or death without actual intent to kill or maim.  Mongo dunno - may just be the only charges that worked with how the laws are written where it happened.
  • JK8Fan: Bigdogdaddy: At least he didn't have a gun..or did he?  That's what everyone wants to know!

    I wish morons like you would stop dragging your gun worship into every tragic death or accident.

    Btw, it doesn't make you funny, it makes you an asshole.


    Let's not get bogged down in discussing all the things that make him an asshole.
  • Bigdogdaddy: At least he didn't have a gun..or did he?  That's what everyone wants to know!


    If those kids had guns they would be alive today.
  • jaytkay: Bigdogdaddy: At least he didn't have a gun..or did he?  That's what everyone wants to know!

    If those kids had guns they would be alive today.


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  • BrerRobot: At 7 and 11 they should have been driving the tractor. Who do you think is farmin America's crops everyday after 3pm? Not unusual to see kids driving the tractors on major roads getting from field to field.


    A teenage boy was killed in my area when a car ran into the back of the tractor on a state highway. Two boys on the tractor were knocked off.  The older tractors do not have seat belts. Some newer ones do.
  • I once got gonorrhea from riding a tractor in my bathing suit
  • My parents farmed as kids, and we lived on a farm when I was a kid. I was never a full-time farm kid, but this kinda shiat was common. Not the kids getting killed commonly, but kids working on farm equipment, and adults and kids recreating around and using farm equipment. People semi-regularly died farming around us. Consider it like heavy industrial work on uneven ground in mixed weather conditions without OSHA.

    However, this tragedy is not much different emotionally and intellectually than buying your city kid a minibike or taking them on your beer ... er golf cart for a lick around the neighborhood. But this equipment is much more powerful and dangerous. Sucks for everyone involved.
  • towatchoverme: Grandpa in the town I grew up in had his grandkid on the tractor tire fender while driving. Kid fell off, got run over, died.

    Buddy of mine had his leg nearly ripped off by a PTO in high school. Both these things happened around 1985 or so.

    Farmers are common clay.

    Tractors are dangerous.

    T'was ever thus.


    PTO? I know this to be Power Take Off from riding lawn mower. What is your PTO?
  • jaytkay: Bigdogdaddy: At least he didn't have a gun..or did he?  That's what everyone wants to know!

    If those kids had guns they would be alive today.


    It isn't funny no matter how many times you morons come on here and bring your gun BS us
  • My dad was a operating engineer and he took me on a bucket ride in a pay loader on some jetty he was working on in the Rockaways. Later on he took me for a ride in the surf while I sat in the bucket. He was crazy but fortunately I survived.
    Here's a picture of him he took of himself while he was in the army building landing strips in India. He was pretty crazy but he kept us amused.
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  • sinko swimo: towatchoverme: Grandpa in the town I grew up in had his grandkid on the tractor tire fender while driving. Kid fell off, got run over, died.

    Buddy of mine had his leg nearly ripped off by a PTO in high school. Both these things happened around 1985 or so.

    Farmers are common clay.

    Tractors are dangerous.

    T'was ever thus.

    PTO? I know this to be Power Take Off from riding lawn mower. What is your PTO?


    Same. Here's one running a generator.
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  • buntz: I once got gonorrhea from riding a tractor in my bathing suit


    Read that initially as birthday suit. Need to find my glasses.
  • I guess Denton County is not the home of happiness
  • jaytkay: sinko swimo: towatchoverme: Grandpa in the town I grew up in had his grandkid on the tractor tire fender while driving. Kid fell off, got run over, died.

    Buddy of mine had his leg nearly ripped off by a PTO in high school. Both these things happened around 1985 or so.

    Farmers are common clay.

    Tractors are dangerous.

    T'was ever thus.

    PTO? I know this to be Power Take Off from riding lawn mower. What is your PTO?

    Same. Here's one running a generator.
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    Yep. Power Take Off.

    In this case, the power to take off a leg.

    There's a metal guard above it.  Most of the farmers I knew ripped that off because it "got in the way."
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  • mybluemake: My parents farmed as kids, and we lived on a farm when I was a kid. I was never a full-time farm kid, but this kinda shiat was common. Not the kids getting killed commonly, but kids working on farm equipment, and adults and kids recreating around and using farm equipment. People semi-regularly died farming around us. Consider it like heavy industrial work on uneven ground in mixed weather conditions without OSHA.

    However, this tragedy is not much different emotionally and intellectually than buying your city kid a minibike or taking them on your beer ... er golf cart for a lick around the neighborhood. But this equipment is much more powerful and dangerous. Sucks for everyone involved.


    I too grew up on a farm.
    My parents were very clear on this point; farm machines are not toys, they are not to be played with whether they are running or turned off.
    All 3 of us kids survived to adulthood.
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