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  • You'd think the FBI would be able to target someone who isn't suffering from a debilitating illness ... oh, that's WHY the FBI targeted him.
  • GreatGlavinsGhost: You'd think the FBI would be able to target someone who isn't suffering from a debilitating illness ... oh, that's WHY the FBI targeted him.


    I mean, have you met most Trumpers? There's a lot of bats in the belfry with mad cow, if you get what I'm saying
  • somedude210: I mean, have you met most Trumpers? There's a lot of bats in the belfry with mad cow, if you get what I'm saying


    Ya, but they aren't brown so sh*t like the Capitol attack is allowed to happen then everyone shrugs their shoulders.

    Also "racist asshole idiot" isn't exactly a mental disorder but of course that does not mean the two wouldn't make for an unsurprising Venn diagram.

    And might I remind you many of those terrorists are walking around free.

    This kid was being a spazz on the internet.

    Lock him up, sure... but not like that.

    Never like that.

    Also he is being refused medical treatment because he isn't an American so he doesn't get the same prisoner right to healthcare... which is just f*cked up.

    Bi-polar people NEED their meds!!!!
  • Once again the Canadian Government fails to protect Canadians abroad (and in the USA).

    Cowards.

    Stupid self-serving lazy-ass cowards.

    Call the Israelis. Have them send in a SWAT team to liberate the lad and get him civilized country mental health care.
  • What too far? Or maybe not too far enough?
  • brantgoose: Call the Israelis.


    I have a feeling they might not be too sympathetic to the lad's cause but hey... Bibi is gone so call 'em up.

    I don't have their direct line.
  • le sigh

    So much wrong here.  Why can't this be handled by the US Legal system.  Is he a serious escape threat or is it just inflexible rules that result in cruel and unusual torture?  That's what it is to deny some folks their medication and keep them going in and out of psychosis.  In the future it will be more likely to happen with each episode.  He is being permanently mentality harmed over and over in tiny cuts instead of just putting some damn medication in his food.
  • Greylight: le sigh

    So much wrong here.  Why can't this be handled by the US Legal system. Is he a serious escape threat or is it just inflexible rules that result in cruel and unusual torture?  That's what it is to deny some folks their medication and keep them going in and out of psychosis.  In the future it will be more likely to happen with each episode.  He is being permanently mentality harmed over and over in tiny cuts instead of just putting some damn medication in his food.


    Lots of legal systems outside the US do exactly this shiat too. Heaps and heaps of people with serious and well understood mental issues go to prisons rather than mental hospitals in lots of countries. Lawmakers don't give a shiat because there are more votes in being "tough on crime" than in any way "logical about criminology". Anywhere you've got right-wing talk-back radio you're going to find this problem.

    Even TFA stops waaay short of confirming the Canadians want him back.

    It's a sad and pointless and expensive tale. It's also entirely predictable - folks demand simple solutions to complex problems and they elect lawmakers who pretend to deliver them, it's been that way for decades if not centuries.
  • brantgoose: Once again the Canadian Government fails to protect Canadians abroad (and in the USA).

    Cowards.

    Stupid self-serving lazy-ass cowards.

    Call the Israelis. Have them send in a SWAT team to liberate the lad and get him civilized country mental health care.


    As if they'd SWAT their sugar daddies.
  • Greylight: le sigh

    So much wrong here.  Why can't this be handled by the US Legal system.  Is he a serious escape threat or is it just inflexible rules that result in cruel and unusual torture?  That's what it is to deny some folks their medication and keep them going in and out of psychosis.  In the future it will be more likely to happen with each episode.  He is being permanently mentality harmed over and over in tiny cuts instead of just putting some damn medication in his food.


    I wanna know how they got a hold of him.

    Did we just hand him over?
  • GreatGlavinsGhost: You'd think the FBI would be able to target someone who isn't suffering from a debilitating illness ... oh, that's WHY the FBI targeted him.


    It's not even the first time they've done that to Canadian teenagers, either. I can't find the documentary about it, but the FBI ues War on Terror legislation and the 5 Eyes agreemnt to enlist the RCMP in this stuff way more often than we think (but not like every year, more like, I dunno, every 3-ish years). It's annoying that the RCMP goes for it. I wish they had a civilian oversight body consisting of psychotherapists and/or clinical psychiatrists that was required to review all similar invetigations as soon as the mental illness of the suspect was confirmed. Mental illness does not absolve violence, or planning (as opposed to fantasizing) violence, but common sense dictates that if the police were participating in the planning by a teenager, then the police would be siginifcantly raising the bar for legitimately continuing their charade.
  • brantgoose:
    Call the Israelis. Have them send in a SWAT team to liberate the lad and get him civilized country mental health care.

    He is a Muslim.  They would drag him to an outdoor concentration camp and then bulldoze his parents home for good measure.
  • A polite, Whatever Canada.
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  • Purple_Urkle: A polite, Whatever Canada.
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    So... you are saying it's okay because it happens here too?

    Are you one of those folks who chuckles about prison rape because "Hyuck, they dun deserved it"?

    Justice reform NOW!!!
  • I would like to know more about the circumstances of the interruption in his medications... if they are being withheld that's totally unacceptable

    Mental illness does not excuse illegal/dangerous behavior, but withholding medication is barbaric.
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    So... you are saying it's okay because it happens here too?

    Are you one of those folks who chuckles about prison rape because "Hyuck, they dun deserved it"?

    Justice reform NOW!!!


    Canada just doesn't get to pretend prison brutality is an America only problem.
  • Greylight: le sigh

    So much wrong here.  Why can't this be handled by the US Legal system.  Is he a serious escape threat or is it just inflexible rules that result in cruel and unusual torture?  That's what it is to deny some folks their medication and keep them going in and out of psychosis.  In the future it will be more likely to happen with each episode.  He is being permanently mentality harmed over and over in tiny cuts instead of just putting some damn medication in his food.


    After 9/11 most Americans lost their minds.  We gave up essential protections on privacy and allowed the government to violate the constitution, specifically cruel and unusual punishment and right to a speedy trial.
    We have or had torture camps all around the world where "terrorists" would be flown into for "advanced interrogation techniques".  We also still have gitmo in Cuba, where for years their top terrorist turned out to be some network admin who was not a member of any terrorist group but needed to be there to justify the policy.
    And that's the thing.  If the government says there is a dire threat to the nation from Islamic terrorists, they are going to fill concentration camps with people who look Islamic whether they are or not, or are actually terrorists isn't the point.
  • Hey, kids! The word of the day is "entrapment"! Sound it out with me. En-trap-ment. Good job! Tomorrow, we'll learn about planting evidence.
  • Purple_Urkle: Canada just doesn't get to pretend prison brutality is an America only problem.


    No we don't.

    In fact based on this article we are quite culpable in this case as well.

    What was your point again?
  • Solitary confinement is cruel and unusual punishment. It's psychological torture.
  • this looks interesting everything's ok: Why would they put some goofy Internet warrior in ADX with hardened criminals?

    https://torontosun.com/news/world/conv​icted-canadian-terrorist-behind-bloody​-prison-knife-attack-report

    Oh, ok, that helps explain it.


    He's be easier to handle if they gave him meds, but ya he's dangerous to everyone and himself now.
  • this looks interesting everything's ok: Why would they put some goofy Internet warrior in ADX with hardened criminals?

    https://torontosun.com/news/world/conv​icted-canadian-terrorist-behind-bloody​-prison-knife-attack-report

    Oh, ok, that helps explain it.


    The TOSun?

    Seriously, dude?

    Also... do you even know what bi polar disorder is and how it affects people?

    I have a cousin who has it and ended up in the clink instead of the hospital.

    He got full on butt rape.

    Huge guy but the mind of a six year old.

    FULL... ON... BUTT RAPED!!!

    Because he was mentally ill and no one wants to deal with that sh*t anymore.

    You disgust me.
  • So he doesn't get health care because he's Canadian? If he were a type 1 diabetic would they withhold insulin from him?
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