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  • Fingers crossed that this leads to either better treatment or a preventative treatment for people with ms.
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  • I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.
  • Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.


    Think long covid. Most won't get it that get infected, but a percentage will. It's obviously a much, much, smaller percentage in this case, but wiping out the virus is still going to eliminate a major cause of MS.
  • Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.


    Most auto-immune diseases appear to be like that - most people don't get them.  Some of the worst ones just up and kill the person of a sudden and everyone around them goes "WTF, damn!", cry, then bury the body and move on.

    Our immune systems can be twitchy.  They're really adaptable, which is necessary, but sometimes too slow responding to save us.  Conversely, constant low-grade stimulation by something can build up slowly to be like a painful but deadly callous... that is apparently the case with EBV and MS.

    Farking herpes virii go into hiding in nerve cells, but come out and poke at the immune system every once in a while forever.  SOMETIMES the immune system gets pissed and goes on the hunt like a Texas cop... shoot everything that looks related and ask NO questions.
  • Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.


    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.
  • trerro: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Think long covid. Most won't get it that get infected, but a percentage will. It's obviously a much, much, smaller percentage in this case, but wiping out the virus is still going to eliminate a major cause of MS.


    Herpes vaccines have been a long, long time coming.  You can't get rid of a herpes virus once you're infected and they can cause a bunch of long term health problems.  Best to never get infected in the first place.
  • mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.


    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.
  • Randrew: mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.

    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.


    2/3 of the world has the herpes virus.

    Herd immunity is just around the corner now.
  • TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Randrew: mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.

    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.

    2/3 of the world has the herpes virus.

    Herd immunity is just around the corner now.


    Also, tetanus.  Recovery from a tetanus infection provides zero tetanus immunity.  Only a vaccine can provide tetanus immunity.

    I'm just glad my bout with mono was almost 30 years ago.  Looks like I'm in the clear for MS now.
  • Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.


    EBV led to chronic fatigue for my mom, making her disabled for much of my childhood.

    I don't see why it's implausible that it could cause other auto immune illnesses
  • TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Randrew: mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.

    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.

    2/3 of the world has the herpes virus.

    Herd immunity is just around the corner now.


    It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!
  • dumbobruni: It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!


    I once dated an Israeli girl here whose English was great but not perfect.

    One evening, she came to my apartment. I went to kiss her hello.

    "Don't kiss me! I have herpes."

    I was about to shout, "WHAT?!"

    Then I realized that she just meant to say "a cold sore."

    (CSIB.)
  • dumbobruni: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Randrew: mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.

    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.

    2/3 of the world has the herpes virus.

    Herd immunity is just around the corner now.

    It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!


    I read here on Fark that lysine helps.  You can get both lip balm containing lysine and lysine oral supplements.   They're common enough that you can get them both at WalMart.

    I was skeptical because the Farker was presenting it like it was some kind of miracle.  But I did try it and it's some kind of miracle.  Applying the lip balm as soon as a sore starts shortens its cycle to 3 days max for me. Just this Monday morning I felt the familiar tickling of a cold sore in its regular spot on my upper lip... I immediately took a lysine tablet and then another each day this week.

    No cold sore.  With this method I have not had a cold sore for 3 years.
  • Randrew: dumbobruni: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Randrew: mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.

    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.

    2/3 of the world has the herpes virus.

    Herd immunity is just around the corner now.

    It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!

    I read here on Fark that lysine helps.  You can get both lip balm containing lysine and lysine oral supplements.   They're common enough that you can get them both at WalMart.

    I was skeptical because the Farker was presenting it like it was some kind of miracle.  But I did try it and it's some kind of miracle.  Applying the lip balm as soon as a sore starts shortens its cycle to 3 days max for me. Just this Monday morning I felt the familiar tickling of a cold sore in its regular spot on my upper lip... I immediately took a lysine tablet and then another each day this week.

    No cold sore.  With this method I have not had a cold sore for 3 years.


    Good to know. My doc gave me scripts for antihistamine and acyclovir creams that I mix myself  before applying (they are available together as a single prescription but that's $240, vs $5-$10 each for the individual tubes).
  • dumbobruni: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Randrew: mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.

    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.

    2/3 of the world has the herpes virus.

    Herd immunity is just around the corner now.

    It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!


    Different herpes virus
  • Ashelth: dumbobruni: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Randrew: mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.

    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.

    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.

    2/3 of the world has the herpes virus.

    Herd immunity is just around the corner now.

    It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!

    Different herpes virus


    I think most of us here understand that.  But as a class of virus, they all have some similar nasty habits - never going away and carrying the potential to taunt the immune system into doing something stupid later seems to be a couple of them.
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  • Randrew: Ashelth: dumbobruni: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Randrew: mistahtom: Unsung_Hero: I'm all with targeting EBV and finding a way to eliminate it, but it seems weird to me to call it a cause of MS when 95% of the population has it and only a tiny percentage has MS.


    EBV is effectively 'the environment'.

    Auto-immune diseases are caused by the body reacting to something constantly present in the body.

    Even after the virus is gone, there are still antibodies circulating and the immune system has been altered going forward.

    But herpes virii don't get gone.  They hang around to *keep* farking with the immune system.

    2/3 of the world has the herpes virus.

    Herd immunity is just around the corner now.

    It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!

    Different herpes virus

    I think most of us here understand that.  But as a class of virus, they all have some similar nasty habits - never going away and carrying the potential to taunt the immune system into doing something stupid later seems to be a couple of them.

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  • bostonguy: dumbobruni: It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!

    I once dated an Israeli girl here whose English was great but not perfect.

    One evening, she came to my apartment. I went to kiss her hello.

    "Don't kiss me! I have herpes."

    I was about to shout, "WHAT?!"

    Then I realized that she just meant to say "a cold sore."

    (CSIB.)


    A cold sore is herpes.
  • KB202: bostonguy: dumbobruni: It's just a lucky few that get recurring sores.

    Like on my lips or nose every November and June since I was 4 years old. Fun!

    I once dated an Israeli girl here whose English was great but not perfect.

    One evening, she came to my apartment. I went to kiss her hello.

    "Don't kiss me! I have herpes."

    I was about to shout, "WHAT?!"

    Then I realized that she just meant to say "a cold sore."

    (CSIB.)

    A cold sore is herpes.


    Of course, but English speakers don't casually go around saying, "I have herpes." We say, "I have a cold sore."
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