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  • The biggest problem I have with killing the Netflix shows for using the characters on Disney+ is Netflix didn't have the issues with violence, language, adult situations etc., so we could have "adult" shows and not the PG-13 fare.

    Not that I'm complaining about what we've seen so far, but being able to push the boundaries with language and situations make better shows.
  • So we understood what Marvel was doing because Disney+ coming out....When you're in this business a long time like we have all been, it kind of made sense business-wise. What didn't make sense to us was why we wouldn't continue that show or the idea of how that worked and how well it worked.

    Probably because Kevin Feige had little to no creative control over it and the other Netflix shows (and of course Disney+). It's basically completely his sandbox now, we're just paying for the privilege of watching him smash his action figures together
  • no1curr: we're just paying for the privilege of watching him smash his action figures together


    Seth Green is suing for infringement.
  • Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: no1curr: we're just paying for the privilege of watching him smash his action figures together

    Seth Green is suing for infringement.


    Well there is precedent for an MCU actor to sue Disney
  • (the short answer being Disney+)

    Saved you a click.
  • It's active actually wondering? Spoiler: it's because Disney doesn't care about making good shows anywhere near as much as they care about having complete control of their properties.
  • Lusiphur: It's active actually wondering? Spoiler: it's because Disney doesn't care about making good shows anywhere near as much as they care about having complete control of their properties.


    Disney doesn't care about control, they don't want to have to share any revenues.  The two just happen to go hand in hand.
  • It's unclear when D'Onofrio will be back as the Kingpin in the MCU

    Disney would be insane not to bring him back.
  • WhippingBoi: It's unclear when D'Onofrio will be back as the Kingpin in the MCU

    Disney would be insane not to bring him back.


    I'm just glad they're finally starting to recognize the Netflix characters in the greater MCU. It was really cool to see Charlie Cox show up in Spider Man. Even if just for a short cameo.
  • BizarreMan: The biggest problem I have with killing the Netflix shows for using the characters on Disney+ is Netflix didn't have the issues with violence, language, adult situations etc., so we could have "adult" shows and not the PG-13 fare.

    Not that I'm complaining about what we've seen so far, but being able to push the boundaries with language and situations make better shows.


    Then put them on Hulu under the "Fox" label.

    Although from what I saw in all Netflix series is that they came up to the the line of PG-13 but they never crossed it.
  • Erek the Red: BizarreMan: The biggest problem I have with killing the Netflix shows for using the characters on Disney+ is Netflix didn't have the issues with violence, language, adult situations etc., so we could have "adult" shows and not the PG-13 fare.

    Not that I'm complaining about what we've seen so far, but being able to push the boundaries with language and situations make better shows.

    Then put them on Hulu under the "Fox" label.

    Although from what I saw in all Netflix series is that they came up to the the line of PG-13 but they never crossed it.


    Depends on how much violence gets an R-rating because there's a lot of bloody stuff in those shows. I know a lot of violence can happen in PG-13 movies, but (from what I understand) it usually comes down to how much blood is shown. So they would have to tone that down at the very least to get on Disney+
  • Also, it's pretty well-known why the Netflix shows were cancelled. Disney wanted to start their own streaming service, the end
  • So when's the Daredevil movie coming out?

    /2029?
    //sad
  • TDWCom29: know a lot of violence can happen in PG-13 movies, but (from what I understand) it usually comes down to how much blood is shown.


    Which is ironic because Red Dawn was the first movie to be rated PG-13.
  • Erek the Red: BizarreMan: The biggest problem I have with killing the Netflix shows for using the characters on Disney+ is Netflix didn't have the issues with violence, language, adult situations etc., so we could have "adult" shows and not the PG-13 fare.

    Not that I'm complaining about what we've seen so far, but being able to push the boundaries with language and situations make better shows.

    Then put them on Hulu under the "Fox" label.

    Although from what I saw in all Netflix series is that they came up to the the line of PG-13 but they never crossed it.


    Punisher was very far into R territory. The prison fight scenes when Kingpin tries to have him killed, when he jams his thumbs into bald guys eyes, etc. Daredevil had some pretty intense violence scenes that I think would push it into the R territory. I haven't watched the show in a long time but Kingpin, Bullseye and a bunch of others are pretty ruthless.
  • TDWCom29: Erek the Red: BizarreMan: The biggest problem I have with killing the Netflix shows for using the characters on Disney+ is Netflix didn't have the issues with violence, language, adult situations etc., so we could have "adult" shows and not the PG-13 fare.

    Not that I'm complaining about what we've seen so far, but being able to push the boundaries with language and situations make better shows.

    Then put them on Hulu under the "Fox" label.

    Although from what I saw in all Netflix series is that they came up to the the line of PG-13 but they never crossed it.

    Depends on how much violence gets an R-rating because there's a lot of bloody stuff in those shows. I know a lot of violence can happen in PG-13 movies, but (from what I understand) it usually comes down to how much blood is shown. So they would have to tone that down at the very least to get on Disney+


    I would say they skewed hard PG13 90 percent of the time with the exception of some of the language (I'm looking at you, Wu Tang Clan).

    /the Bring Da Ruckus scene is a favorite
  • Kornchex: TDWCom29: know a lot of violence can happen in PG-13 movies, but (from what I understand) it usually comes down to how much blood is shown.

    Which is ironic because Red Dawn was the first movie to be rated PG-13.


    I don't trust the Ancient Aliens folks as a reference.
  • WhippingBoi: It's unclear when D'Onofrio will be back as the Kingpin in the MCU

    Disney would be insane not to bring him back.


    They blew up D'Onofrio's Kingpin pretty good in Hawkeye, but that never meant much death/survival wise ever in comics.
  • Hoban Washburne: TDWCom29: Erek the Red: BizarreMan: The biggest problem I have with killing the Netflix shows for using the characters on Disney+ is Netflix didn't have the issues with violence, language, adult situations etc., so we could have "adult" shows and not the PG-13 fare.

    Not that I'm complaining about what we've seen so far, but being able to push the boundaries with language and situations make better shows.

    Then put them on Hulu under the "Fox" label.

    Although from what I saw in all Netflix series is that they came up to the the line of PG-13 but they never crossed it.

    Depends on how much violence gets an R-rating because there's a lot of bloody stuff in those shows. I know a lot of violence can happen in PG-13 movies, but (from what I understand) it usually comes down to how much blood is shown. So they would have to tone that down at the very least to get on Disney+

    I would say they skewed hard PG13 90 percent of the time with the exception of some of the language (I'm looking at you, Wu Tang Clan).

    /the Bring Da Ruckus scene is a favorite


    I say this relative to the MPAA system that allows you to get away with a ton of violence as long as you're not showing actual nudity or saying f*ck too much (generally more than once is too much).

    Okay, Punisher actually probably crossed the line with violence, but there's not really another way to approach that character.
  • sno man: WhippingBoi: It's unclear when D'Onofrio will be back as the Kingpin in the MCU

    Disney would be insane not to bring him back.

    They blew up D'Onofrio's Kingpin pretty good in Hawkeye, but that never meant much death/survival wise ever in comics.


    That whole thing was weird.  Kingpin can hold his own in a fight when the his enemies show up on his turf, but him showing up at a really, really obvious crime scene in a Hawaiian shirt BY HIMSELF made no sense.

    Then they killed him.

    I'm sure he survived or something, but it sure looked like they killed him.


    Also, I'm going to be contentious here, but I can handle the fallout:  Dude is too old to be Kingpin.
  • Joe Stapler: sno man: WhippingBoi: It's unclear when D'Onofrio will be back as the Kingpin in the MCU

    Disney would be insane not to bring him back.

    They blew up D'Onofrio's Kingpin pretty good in Hawkeye, but that never meant much death/survival wise ever in comics.

    That whole thing was weird.  Kingpin can hold his own in a fight when the his enemies show up on his turf, but him showing up at a really, really obvious crime scene in a Hawaiian shirt BY HIMSELF made no sense.

    Then they killed him.

    I'm sure he survived or something, but it sure looked like they killed him.


    Also, I'm going to be contentious here, but I can handle the fallout:  Dude is too old to be Kingpin.


    If they really wanted to keep him dead they would have shown his body drop, but they "shot" him off screen instead. Even if he is dead they have the whole multiverse to play with and can drop in another kingpin at anytime.
  • sno man: WhippingBoi: It's unclear when D'Onofrio will be back as the Kingpin in the MCU

    Disney would be insane not to bring him back.

    They blew up D'Onofrio's Kingpin pretty good in Hawkeye, but that never meant much death/survival wise ever in comics.


    He was NOT killed on-screen. We heard a gunshot. We will likely later find out that she either missed or merely wounded him as he murdered her.
  • Is it the same reason they canceled Jessica Jones, Iron Fist (well, IF was shiat so it might be an exception), Luke Cage and Punisher?
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