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  • Itshappening.jpg

    Except it's not.
  • It's difficult to move in a wet dress anyway.  Next rehersal should be nude.
  • Damn.  If that thing goes boom, we're never gonna hear the end of it from Musk.
  • Have they tried more thrusters and/or struts?
  • King Something: Have they tried more thrusters and/or struts?


    Inertial dampers, EPS taps and warp field modulators.
  • OkieDookie: King Something: Have they tried more thrusters and/or struts?

    Inertial dampers, EPS taps and warp field modulators.


    You must think we're idiots.  Everyone knows EPS conduits explode every time the ship so much as vibrates, and you want to tap the lines introducing more weak points?
  • Are they even really trying anymore?
  • Unsung_Hero: OkieDookie: King Something: Have they tried more thrusters and/or struts?

    Inertial dampers, EPS taps and warp field modulators.

    You must think we're idiots.  Everyone knows EPS conduits explode every time the ship so much as vibrates, and you want to tap the lines introducing more weak points?


    It the only way to stop the negative power coupling from polarizing.
  • OkieDookie: Unsung_Hero: OkieDookie: King Something: Have they tried more thrusters and/or struts?

    Inertial dampers, EPS taps and warp field modulators.

    You must think we're idiots.  Everyone knows EPS conduits explode every time the ship so much as vibrates, and you want to tap the lines introducing more weak points?

    It the only way to stop the negative power coupling from polarizing.


    Err... if it's a negative power coupling, it's already polarized.  And if you were to depolarize it, the power would cease to flow.  And obviously, this is one situation where reversing the polarization of the flow would be a bad thing.

    I'm beginning to suspect you're a Romulan saboteur.
  • Unsung_Hero: OkieDookie: Unsung_Hero: OkieDookie: King Something: Have they tried more thrusters and/or struts?

    Inertial dampers, EPS taps and warp field modulators.

    You must think we're idiots.  Everyone knows EPS conduits explode every time the ship so much as vibrates, and you want to tap the lines introducing more weak points?

    It the only way to stop the negative power coupling from polarizing.

    Err... if it's a negative power coupling, it's already polarized.  And if you were to depolarize it, the power would cease to flow.  And obviously, this is one situation where reversing the polarization of the flow would be a bad thing.

    I'm beginning to suspect you're a Romulan saboteur.


    *cloaks Romulanly*
  • Nasa: going about the tedious and meticulous testing of a fully functional moon rocket.

    "DO THEY EVEN KNOW HOW TO CRASH A STAINLESS STEEL WATER TOWER??"
  • I was reading an article yesterday about how the Senate Looting System is the biggest and bestest rocket in existence. Much more powerful than any other rocket (if you only consider ones that have been launched). The article had a helpful diagram that showed how much more powerful it was than the Starship booster, by comparing the total thrust of the SLS to a single Raptor engine.  I remember a lecture around 2002 by a NASA guy on how the SLS was on track for 2008.

    What's the over/under on SpaceX doing the whole Moon trip by themselves?
  • Man, these hate threads just don't hVe the pull that they used to.  Did someone stop paying for opinions?  Even the Musk ones can't stir enough hate anymore.  I think that Russian internet blockade and the invasion ruined everything.
  • shroom: Damn.  If that thing goes boom, we're never gonna hear the end of it from Musk.


    We'll never hear the end of it from Angry Astronaut!
  • Nicholas D. Wolfwood: shroom: Damn.  If that thing goes boom, we're never gonna hear the end of it from Musk.

    We'll never hear the end of it from Angry Astronaut!


    We will never hear the end of it from Roscosmos.

    Also is anyone else watching the stream of super heavy booster 7 rollout? There is going to be a 33 raptor static fire sometime in the near future.
  • khitsicker: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: shroom: Damn.  If that thing goes boom, we're never gonna hear the end of it from Musk.

    We'll never hear the end of it from Angry Astronaut!

    We will never hear the end of it from Roscosmos.

    Also is anyone else watching the stream of super heavy booster 7 rollout? There is going to be a 33 raptor static fire sometime in the near future.


    Maybe.

    Hopefully.

    Rogozin's just been running his mouth about how the US is gonna come crawling back to Russia for engines since we can't build any.
  • natazha: I was reading an article yesterday about how the Senate Looting System is the biggest and bestest rocket in existence. Much more powerful than any other rocket (if you only consider ones that have been launched). The article had a helpful diagram that showed how much more powerful it was than the Starship booster, by comparing the total thrust of the SLS to a single Raptor engine.  I remember a lecture around 2002 by a NASA guy on how the SLS was on track for 2008.

    What's the over/under on SpaceX doing the whole Moon trip by themselves?


    At this point it's probably a tossup whether SLS or Starship launches first.  It's probably also a tossup whether either of them blows up, since neither will have flown the first stage before at all.  I wouldn't actually be surprised in SpaceX made it to lunar orbit first, although it's worth noting that they don't currently have a landing module or a service module.  NASA is at least well on its way with the European service module and Orion.

    I also don't believe Dragon was ever intended for deep space, but correct me if I'm wrong.
  • shroom: natazha: I was reading an article yesterday about how the Senate Looting System is the biggest and bestest rocket in existence. Much more powerful than any other rocket (if you only consider ones that have been launched). The article had a helpful diagram that showed how much more powerful it was than the Starship booster, by comparing the total thrust of the SLS to a single Raptor engine.  I remember a lecture around 2002 by a NASA guy on how the SLS was on track for 2008.

    What's the over/under on SpaceX doing the whole Moon trip by themselves?

    At this point it's probably a tossup whether SLS or Starship launches first.  It's probably also a tossup whether either of them blows up, since neither will have flown the first stage before at all.  I wouldn't actually be surprised in SpaceX made it to lunar orbit first, although it's worth noting that they don't currently have a landing module or a service module.  NASA is at least well on its way with the European service module and Orion.

    I also don't believe Dragon was ever intended for deep space, but correct me if I'm wrong.


    You are correct - Crew Dragon is *not* deep-space capable.
  • Starship *is* the service and landing module, like old school Heinlien books.
  • Any Pie Left: Starship *is* the service and landing module, like old school Heinlien books.


    Yes, but the upper stage they've been testing is just a mockup so far for testing the propulsion.  No life support, no cockpit, no airlock.  It's just a shell so far.  The actual thing does not exist yet and they haven't even started building it.  I mean, SpaceX is really good at rapid development but god damn if the media doesn't push mountains of bullshiat on their behalf.
  • natazha: I was reading an article yesterday about how the Senate Looting System is the biggest and bestest rocket in existence. Much more powerful than any other rocket (if you only consider ones that have been launched). The article had a helpful diagram that showed how much more powerful it was than the Starship booster, by comparing the total thrust of the SLS to a single Raptor engine.  I remember a lecture around 2002 by a NASA guy on how the SLS was on track for 2008.

    What's the over/under on SpaceX doing the whole Moon trip by themselves?


    Put it this way:

    Artemis cannot perform a moon landing without Starship. Starship can perform a moon landing without Artemis. And If SLS fails hard enough, Superheavy will already be in a position to function as a replacement booster.
  • shroom: natazha: I was reading an article yesterday about how the Senate Looting System is the biggest and bestest rocket in existence. Much more powerful than any other rocket (if you only consider ones that have been launched). The article had a helpful diagram that showed how much more powerful it was than the Starship booster, by comparing the total thrust of the SLS to a single Raptor engine.  I remember a lecture around 2002 by a NASA guy on how the SLS was on track for 2008.

    What's the over/under on SpaceX doing the whole Moon trip by themselves?

    At this point it's probably a tossup whether SLS or Starship launches first.  It's probably also a tossup whether either of them blows up, since neither will have flown the first stage before at all.  I wouldn't actually be surprised in SpaceX made it to lunar orbit first, although it's worth noting that they don't currently have a landing module or a service module.  NASA is at least well on its way with the European service module and Orion.

    I also don't believe Dragon was ever intended for deep space, but correct me if I'm wrong.


    What makes you think SpaceX would attempt a moonshot with a Dragon? Orion flew its first mission on a Delta IV heavy; if SLS blows up on the pad, they could just as easily stack Artemis on a superheavy and call it a day.

    Actually, I had the impression Falcon Heavy could work just as well if they were only doing a flyby (not enough power to also send a lander) but it's been years since I did the math.
  • Ooh, I know how this plays out. They patched the code to ignore the hydrogen leak so they could do the countdown test. The patch accidentally makes it into the production code and when they try to actually launch, there's an undetected hydrogen leak that causes an explosion.
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