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  • It's 100% whining, and I say this as a Minnesota fan.

    1) If Colorado had too many men on the ice, then Tampa had 2-too many because two of their guys were still on the ice, too.

    2) If you call that, you'd have 50 too many men calls per game.
  • dartben: It's 100% whining, and I say this as a Minnesota fan.

    1) If Colorado had too many men on the ice, then Tampa had 2-too many because two of their guys were still on the ice, too.

    2) If you call that, you'd have 50 too many men calls per game.


    Meh, Kadri absolutely left the bench WAY too early, it wasn't just a case of some guy waiting to hop on the bench. The picture of the Tampa guys and the Colorado guy waiting to get on the bench isn't really the main issue.

    Someone posted a good video from the Avs bench showing Kadri leaving early. And it did allow Kadri to get into good position to take the pass.

    NOW, I think the Avs would have still won the game regardless. Tampa was absolutely gassed and it looked like they were playing short-handed during OT. But that doesn't negate the fact that it was a missed call.
  • HeathenHealer: dartben: It's 100% whining, and I say this as a Minnesota fan.

    1) If Colorado had too many men on the ice, then Tampa had 2-too many because two of their guys were still on the ice, too.

    2) If you call that, you'd have 50 too many men calls per game.

    Meh, Kadri absolutely left the bench WAY too early, it wasn't just a case of some guy waiting to hop on the bench. The picture of the Tampa guys and the Colorado guy waiting to get on the bench isn't really the main issue.

    Someone posted a good video from the Avs bench showing Kadri leaving early. And it did allow Kadri to get into good position to take the pass.

    NOW, I think the Avs would have still won the game regardless. Tampa was absolutely gassed and it looked like they were playing short-handed during OT. But that doesn't negate the fact that it was a missed call.


    I count 7 Bolts on the ice when Stamkos comes on as they're making a partial change.  By rule, Stamkos is early as well - he's on the ice a step or two after Kadri and his man isn't within five feet of the bench either and the replay doesn't show if those neutral zone players were coming off or drifting to the puck possesion side. The difference of outcome is bench alignment and Kuemper takes advantage of that with a good pass since the Avs bench is closer to the offensive zone.  One of those things that happens in many games without mention but then gets magnified in the playoffs.

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  • little big man: HeathenHealer: dartben: It's 100% whining, and I say this as a Minnesota fan.

    1) If Colorado had too many men on the ice, then Tampa had 2-too many because two of their guys were still on the ice, too.

    2) If you call that, you'd have 50 too many men calls per game.

    Meh, Kadri absolutely left the bench WAY too early, it wasn't just a case of some guy waiting to hop on the bench. The picture of the Tampa guys and the Colorado guy waiting to get on the bench isn't really the main issue.

    Someone posted a good video from the Avs bench showing Kadri leaving early. And it did allow Kadri to get into good position to take the pass.

    NOW, I think the Avs would have still won the game regardless. Tampa was absolutely gassed and it looked like they were playing short-handed during OT. But that doesn't negate the fact that it was a missed call.

    I count 7 Bolts on the ice when Stamkos comes on as they're making a partial change.  By rule, Stamkos is early as well - he's on the ice a step or two after Kadri and his man isn't within five feet of the bench either and the replay doesn't show if those neutral zone players were coming off or drifting to the puck possesion side. The difference of outcome is bench alignment and Kuemper takes advantage of that with a good pass since the Avs bench is closer to the offensive zone.  One of those things that happens in many games without mention but then gets magnified in the playoffs.

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    Someone who knows hockey better than me is telling me that the big issue is that Kadri can't play the puck or get involved until the guy he is replacing comes off.
  • Translation: My team looked terrible out there. Not as bad as losing 7-0 the other day, but still pretty bad. There is no way we're winning this series. Time to start cherry picking would-be penalties and making excuses.
  • Guess you have to whack a goalie in the head with a stick and have his mask come off before he'll approve of a goal being scored.
  • Missed call, but Tampa was gassed.  You cannot be in the defensive zone that much in overtime and expect to win.
  • Of course the goal shouldn't have counted.

    Human referees missing these type of things are all part of the game and most other games. shiat happens.
  • The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.

    OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!

    The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!

    Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!

    Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!
  • tommyl66: The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.

    OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!

    The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!

    Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!

    Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!


    Both the Avalanche and Lightning contain potassium benzoate.
  • Also, as much as I dislike the Avs, fark the lightning waaay more.
  • puffy999: tommyl66: The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.

    OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!

    The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!

    Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!

    Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!

    Both the Avalanche and Lightning contain potassium benzoate.


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  • tommyl66: The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.

    OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!

    The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!

    Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!

    Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!


    That last part could lead to using up coach's challenges to ticky-tack levels.

    The Hockey Guy on YouTube said OT leads to fatigue, fatigue leads to sloppy play. Fatigue also hits refereeing, but if the Bolts want more whistles, they better think about how bad their special teams have been and how many calls they got away with lately.
  • Can someone ask Barry Trotz to offer up a rebuttal here?
  • I'm just shocked Kadri didn't do something stupid after scoring that resulted in a suspension.
  • Ronin Around: Can someone ask Barry Trotz to offer up a rebuttal here?


    Probably too busy laughing at this and whatever new Winnipeggers come up with to have him coach their team.

    /About as delusional as the San Jose Sharks owner wanting to avoid the word "rebuilding." Say Barry, wanna be a GM too?
  • Jon cooper being a little biatch. Color me surprised.
  • Looking at this, it was probably the right call but even if it was the wrong call. It was the fairly close judgement call that will occur.
  • WhiskeySticks: I'm just shocked Kadri didn't do something stupid after scoring that resulted in a suspension.


    Legit he's been on his best behavior in the playoffs.  I know St. Louis was really trying to goad him into some stuff, but he's stayed out of trouble, at least by his standards.  Not that controversy doesn't find him anyway.

    /Binnington hit NOT his fault
    //Kadri has repeatedly expressed guilt over his suspension last year hurting the team
  • And TB's first goal shouldn't have been allowed, so there's that to consider, Coop.

    They had 60+ minutes to knock COL down, but couldn't get it done, and JEEZUS was TB gassed in OT. That was absolutely painful to watch, so if Coop thinks they were gonna win in OT--with the puck permanently placed in TB's zone, he's high.
  • Practical_Draconian: tommyl66: The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.

    OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!

    The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!

    Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!

    Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!

    That last part could lead to using up coach's challenges to ticky-tack levels.

    The Hockey Guy on YouTube said OT leads to fatigue, fatigue leads to sloppy play. Fatigue also hits refereeing, but if the Bolts want more whistles, they better think about how bad their special teams have been and how many calls they got away with lately.


    1 for 15 on the power play in four games.  You only get one goal with that kind of firepower you deserve to lose.

    Where did I hear that before?  Oh right, from Bolts fans after the Leafs series.
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  • As a Wings fan, I recall a Cup Final game where the Penguins had 6 skaters and a goalie for about 30 second and no penalty was called.  We were called 'whiners' for pointing it put.

    I guess the Lightning should have scored more goals in the first 60 minutes so they could avoid OT.
  • Oh Jon, you shouldn't even be in this series.  It should literally be any of your previous opponents, because you lost to the Leafs in 7 in the first round (or 6 if you wanna push it) if you'd had penalties being called correctly against both teams.  Toronto couldn't stay out of the box, while Tampa couldn't go in, while both were doing the same thing (plus the horseshiat toe pick interference that wiped off the game 7 go ahead goal and gave up a power play)

    So you know Jon, STFU
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