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1) If Colorado had too many men on the ice, then Tampa had 2-too many because two of their guys were still on the ice, too.
2) If you call that, you'd have 50 too many men calls per game.
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dartben: It's 100% whining, and I say this as a Minnesota fan.
1) If Colorado had too many men on the ice, then Tampa had 2-too many because two of their guys were still on the ice, too.
2) If you call that, you'd have 50 too many men calls per game.
Meh, Kadri absolutely left the bench WAY too early, it wasn't just a case of some guy waiting to hop on the bench. The picture of the Tampa guys and the Colorado guy waiting to get on the bench isn't really the main issue.
Someone posted a good video from the Avs bench showing Kadri leaving early. And it did allow Kadri to get into good position to take the pass.
NOW, I think the Avs would have still won the game regardless. Tampa was absolutely gassed and it looked like they were playing short-handed during OT. But that doesn't negate the fact that it was a missed call.
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HeathenHealer: dartben: It's 100% whining, and I say this as a Minnesota fan.
1) If Colorado had too many men on the ice, then Tampa had 2-too many because two of their guys were still on the ice, too.
2) If you call that, you'd have 50 too many men calls per game.
Meh, Kadri absolutely left the bench WAY too early, it wasn't just a case of some guy waiting to hop on the bench. The picture of the Tampa guys and the Colorado guy waiting to get on the bench isn't really the main issue.
Someone posted a good video from the Avs bench showing Kadri leaving early. And it did allow Kadri to get into good position to take the pass.
NOW, I think the Avs would have still won the game regardless. Tampa was absolutely gassed and it looked like they were playing short-handed during OT. But that doesn't negate the fact that it was a missed call.
I count 7 Bolts on the ice when Stamkos comes on as they're making a partial change. By rule, Stamkos is early as well - he's on the ice a step or two after Kadri and his man isn't within five feet of the bench either and the replay doesn't show if those neutral zone players were coming off or drifting to the puck possesion side. The difference of outcome is bench alignment and Kuemper takes advantage of that with a good pass since the Avs bench is closer to the offensive zone. One of those things that happens in many games without mention but then gets magnified in the playoffs.
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little big man: HeathenHealer: dartben: It's 100% whining, and I say this as a Minnesota fan.
1) If Colorado had too many men on the ice, then Tampa had 2-too many because two of their guys were still on the ice, too.
2) If you call that, you'd have 50 too many men calls per game.
Meh, Kadri absolutely left the bench WAY too early, it wasn't just a case of some guy waiting to hop on the bench. The picture of the Tampa guys and the Colorado guy waiting to get on the bench isn't really the main issue.
Someone posted a good video from the Avs bench showing Kadri leaving early. And it did allow Kadri to get into good position to take the pass.
NOW, I think the Avs would have still won the game regardless. Tampa was absolutely gassed and it looked like they were playing short-handed during OT. But that doesn't negate the fact that it was a missed call.
I count 7 Bolts on the ice when Stamkos comes on as they're making a partial change. By rule, Stamkos is early as well - he's on the ice a step or two after Kadri and his man isn't within five feet of the bench either and the replay doesn't show if those neutral zone players were coming off or drifting to the puck possesion side. The difference of outcome is bench alignment and Kuemper takes advantage of that with a good pass since the Avs bench is closer to the offensive zone. One of those things that happens in many games without mention but then gets magnified in the playoffs.
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Someone who knows hockey better than me is telling me that the big issue is that Kadri can't play the puck or get involved until the guy he is replacing comes off.
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Human referees missing these type of things are all part of the game and most other games. shiat happens.
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OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!
The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!
Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!
Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!
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tommyl66: The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.
OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!
The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!
Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!
Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!
Both the Avalanche and Lightning contain potassium benzoate.
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puffy999: tommyl66: The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.
OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!
The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!
Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!
Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!
Both the Avalanche and Lightning contain potassium benzoate.
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tommyl66: The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.
OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!
The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!
Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!
Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!
That last part could lead to using up coach's challenges to ticky-tack levels.
The Hockey Guy on YouTube said OT leads to fatigue, fatigue leads to sloppy play. Fatigue also hits refereeing, but if the Bolts want more whistles, they better think about how bad their special teams have been and how many calls they got away with lately.
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Ronin Around: Can someone ask Barry Trotz to offer up a rebuttal here?
Probably too busy laughing at this and whatever new Winnipeggers come up with to have him coach their team.
/About as delusional as the San Jose Sharks owner wanting to avoid the word "rebuilding." Say Barry, wanna be a GM too?
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WhiskeySticks: I'm just shocked Kadri didn't do something stupid after scoring that resulted in a suspension.
Legit he's been on his best behavior in the playoffs. I know St. Louis was really trying to goad him into some stuff, but he's stayed out of trouble, at least by his standards. Not that controversy doesn't find him anyway.
/Binnington hit NOT his fault
//Kadri has repeatedly expressed guilt over his suspension last year hurting the team
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They had 60+ minutes to knock COL down, but couldn't get it done, and JEEZUS was TB gassed in OT. That was absolutely painful to watch, so if Coop thinks they were gonna win in OT--with the puck permanently placed in TB's zone, he's high.
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Practical_Draconian: tommyl66: The whole situation feels like a hypothetical question where layers keep getting added to make you feel annoyed having to support one side or the other.
OK, so let's say Tampa is in the Cup Final yet again, and they have an iffy call go against them that leads to them losing a game. - That's good!
The beneficiary of the call is Nazem Kadri. - That's bad!
Upon review many people agree that the play was probably called correctly. - That's good!
Although the play was probably called correctly it now opens the door for the League to step in and show it is 'doing something' by making silly new rules to try and fix something that isn't necessarily broken. - That's bad!
That last part could lead to using up coach's challenges to ticky-tack levels.
The Hockey Guy on YouTube said OT leads to fatigue, fatigue leads to sloppy play. Fatigue also hits refereeing, but if the Bolts want more whistles, they better think about how bad their special teams have been and how many calls they got away with lately.
1 for 15 on the power play in four games. You only get one goal with that kind of firepower you deserve to lose.
Where did I hear that before? Oh right, from Bolts fans after the Leafs series.
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I guess the Lightning should have scored more goals in the first 60 minutes so they could avoid OT.
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So you know Jon, STFU
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