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  • I was sad to discover that Eve Valkyrie is shut down and thus impossible to play now
  • Arr, I own and play what I want matey!

    /I do toss a few doubloons to those that be worthy
    //when I can afford it
    ///cutlass slash!
  • So I am not a gamer by any definition, and have a Switch and thought it looked like fun to play Cuphead, but it is only available via download. Does that mean that if for some reason they wanted to discontinue the game they could yank it off my SD card if I was connected to the net?
  • Th...they're mobile games. Someone expected them to be around forever?
  • The main game runs about three hours in length,[7] and the player can purchase puzzle solutions through microtransactions.[6] An additional puzzle design node-also new to the Go series-lets players make single-screen puzzles to share with others.[2] Square Enix highlights five new puzzles in a weekly rotation.[6] As part of a tie-in with Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, players complete the main story and weekly puzzles in the mobile game to unlock perks in the console title.[8]

    The "you don't own this" people are being a bit melodramatic. The game was released 6 years ago as a companion app. Yes, it cost money. Yes, people were just recently playing it.

    Yes, the publishers are being unreasonable. But that didn't start recently. The fact that the games will be "inaccessible" past a certain date means they were never built to last. If the user has to call up a server just to get the game started, this couldn't go on forever.  If there were separable offline and online modes, the game could've been built to continue offline, and be sold in a somewhat reduced state. It wasn't. It's a shame, but it's nothing new or surprising.

    //the tomb raider go game was good for what it was, but calling this stuff 'classic' is a stretch
  • OhioUGrad: So I am not a gamer by any definition, and have a Switch and thought it looked like fun to play Cuphead, but it is only available via download. Does that mean that if for some reason they wanted to discontinue the game they could yank it off my SD card if I was connected to the net?


    Nah. I still have downloaded PS3 games from like 2009 so you're good.
  • OhioUGrad: So I am not a gamer by any definition, and have a Switch and thought it looked like fun to play Cuphead, but it is only available via download. Does that mean that if for some reason they wanted to discontinue the game they could yank it off my SD card if I was connected to the net?


    In theory they could.  I'm not sure if the EULA actually grants them permission to delete things from your SD card but it's theoretically possible they could do it.  But as far as I know that would be unprecedented for your specific situation.

    Whenever you hear about a game being shut down it usually involves a multiplayer games that requires you to connect to a server.  Keeping a multiplayer game going costs money, so eventually a developer will decide that it's no longer worth it to keep them running and will shut them down.  So for games that are strictly online multiplayer that effectively ends the game.  If the game has a single player component then usually you will still be able to play that part of the game even if the multiplayer has been discontinued.   Unless the developer of the game was an asshole (looking at you, ubisoft) and required you to connect to a verification server to prove you paid for the game, even for single player, then you might not be able to play the game any longer if they take the verification server offline and don't issue a patch to get around it.

    But in your case you don't have anything to worry about.  Cuphead doesn't have an online component, and even if it were discontinued or removed from Nintendo's store you'd still be able to play it for as long as you still had it installed.  Hell, if you wanted you could probably make a backup copy of it to a PC in case something happened to the SD Card.
  • Akuinnen: Yar!


    We're able to enjoy and appreciate the games from the Spectrum/C64/Amiga/&c. today largely because they've been preserved due to piracy in the '80s and '90s. I see that phenomenon isn't changing any time soon.

    It isn't stealing. It's serving the noble cause of history.
  • Neondistraction: OhioUGrad: So I am not a gamer by any definition, and have a Switch and thought it looked like fun to play Cuphead, but it is only available via download. Does that mean that if for some reason they wanted to discontinue the game they could yank it off my SD card if I was connected to the net?

    In theory they could.  I'm not sure if the EULA actually grants them permission to delete things from your SD card but it's theoretically possible they could do it.  But as far as I know that would be unprecedented for your specific situation.

    Whenever you hear about a game being shut down it usually involves a multiplayer games that requires you to connect to a server.  Keeping a multiplayer game going costs money, so eventually a developer will decide that it's no longer worth it to keep them running and will shut them down.  So for games that are strictly online multiplayer that effectively ends the game.  If the game has a single player component then usually you will still be able to play that part of the game even if the multiplayer has been discontinued.   Unless the developer of the game was an asshole (looking at you, ubisoft) and required you to connect to a verification server to prove you paid for the game, even for single player, then you might not be able to play the game any longer if they take the verification server offline and don't issue a patch to get around it.

    But in your case you don't have anything to worry about.  Cuphead doesn't have an online component, and even if it were discontinued or removed from Nintendo's store you'd still be able to play it for as long as you still had it installed.  Hell, if you wanted you could probably make a backup copy of it to a PC in case something happened to the SD Card.


    The best Ace Combat game was a F2P multiplayer game with a tacked on SP. I don't even know if paying for the SP mission pack lets you start Infinity, since I could download it off the network, but it refused to go past the title menu since the servers are gone.
  • Wine Sipping Elitist: The same applies to your console. Did you read and accept the EULA?


    As if anyone reads the EULA.
  • Hitman GO, Lara Croft GO, and Deus Ex GO are all games I got from from Amazon Underground like 10 years ago. They don't appear to be available on Amazon Appstore now, but I can reinstall. Is it really a server issue with them shutting down, or actually just revoking the licenses from the Play and Apple store?
  • Gordon Bennett: Akuinnen: Yar!

    We're able to enjoy and appreciate the games from the Spectrum/C64/Amiga/&c. today largely because they've been preserved due to piracy in the '80s and '90s. I see that phenomenon isn't changing any time soon.

    It isn't stealing. It's serving the noble cause of history.


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  • The one I miss most of all:

    Dungeon Runners Bling Gnome
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  • That's why I only play board games on my commute:

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    Gloomhaven is exceedingly portable.
  • GOG would disagree, subby.
  • ...unless you buy them on Good Old Games, in which case you can download the installer for the game and save it on your hard drive or burn it to disk or other (semi-)permanent medium.
  • ArcadianRefugee: Wine Sipping Elitist: The same applies to your console. Did you read and accept the EULA?

    As if anyone reads the EULA.


    Joke's on you, I don't have any kids!
  • Wine Sipping Elitist: The same applies to your console. Did you read and accept the EULA?


    Like anyone have ever read a EULA.  Accept it?  Sure.  Read it?  Nope.
  • OhioUGrad: So I am not a gamer by any definition, and have a Switch and thought it looked like fun to play Cuphead, but it is only available via download. Does that mean that if for some reason they wanted to discontinue the game they could yank it off my SD card if I was connected to the net?


    They can send a tiny update to your switch that will make that downloaded file no longer compatible with your system.  Rendering it unplayable.  Which is probably what they'd do.

    Then again, you won't usually see games like Cuphead get abandoned, and if it does, it will immediately be decomped.  Games get abandoned because of overhead.

    The real horrorshow would be if Steam completely shut down.  Not if a single game stops being supported.  That's been going on for ages, even in the before times of actually owning games.
  • BeesNuts: The real horrorshow would be if Steam completely shut down.  Not if a single game stops being supported.  That's been going on for ages, even in the before times of actually owning games.


    The closest I've encountered to that was when the Games for Windows service shut down.  Even games that were purchased through Steam were unplayable if they used Games for Windows for verification.  At least a few were patched to no longer need it, but some were abandoned and became unplayable.
  • Sure, AAA game companies are techbro shiat houses that abuse and rape workers, and consumers are getting swindled in new and inventive ways every year, and buying their products only serves to encourage the worst aspects of capitalism... but what am I gonna do, NOT play Battlefield???
  • Wine Sipping Elitist: The same applies to your console. Did you read and accept the EULA?


    Microsoft denied VMC's claims, saying that in fact the leakers' consoles are still usable offline.

    \In fairness, I don't know how much being offline would impact an XBone, I don't have one.  But my 360 and PS4 both function perfectly fine offline (though some PS4 games nag me about not having a network connection when I first start them)
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