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  • chawco: Circusdog320: Sounds like BS to me.

    It more or less is. H3 slightly increased some putative markers of genetic health. Anyone adopting a life focused on healthy living can do likewise. He eats only healthy food, works out, gets his vitamens.

    There is nothing extraordinary here other than the extreme lengths he went to slight shift some heath markers that may or may not actually matter in yhe long term. As far as I can see there is little evidence this will explicitly affect his lifespan, other than the general benefits of healthy living does for anyone (I.e. These specific markers may mean basically nothing for longevity.)


    Yep. Plenty of extremely fit people wake up one day and find out they have cancer, or MS, COPD, Parkinson's, etc... not all of which are fatal, but chronic conditions that must be managed and will likely contribute to your eventual death.
  • Russ1642: So they come up with some markers and a bit of math to determine an 'epigenetic age'. If you focus on reducing those markers that doesn't necessarily correlate to anything. It'd be like surgery to extend your lower legs to reduce your BMI. It's not like your actual health would change much.


    Pro: you can walk much faster
    Con: the shin splints are brutal
  • mjjt: The world does not need immoral rich people


    What's interesting is listening to everyone talk about how much they'd like to live a long time, because they'd do it right and not be selfish.  Like winning the lottery.  They would do better.
    If that's your desire, you already missed the boat.  Enjoy wishing your life away, Mr. I-totally-missed-the-point-of living in the first place.

    /Hoarding is a mental illness
  • tembaarmswide: T.rex: i would guess MOST 47 year olds are in better shape than they were at 42..... We care more.   42 is like the final age when you realize you can't do the thing you did in your early 30's.

    i'm 42.  So i'm supposed to start caring then?


    The spare time you see growing around your mid-section? Its hard as fark to get rid of.... Status quo won't be good enough
  • tembaarmswide: T.rex: i would guess MOST 47 year olds are in better shape than they were at 42..... We care more.   42 is like the final age when you realize you can't do the thing you did in your early 30's.

    i'm 42.  So i'm supposed to start caring then?


    I wouldn't worry about it
  • Mugato: Excelsior: The French Revolution has shown what happens when the inequity between rich and poor gets too large.

    I don't think it can get any larger.


    Yep, that's the thing. It's not quite there yet, but it's getting comparable.

    Just before the Revolution of 1789, the proportion of French national wealth held by the top 10% was about 90%, and the fraction possessed by the top 1% was as much as 60%.

    As of 2022, the top 10% holds about 70% of America's national wealth, and the top 1% holds about 33% of it.
  • You just know that guy moans when he wipes his ass.
  • What kind of asshole walks around so comfortable in their own head that they can stand the idea of enduring it indefinitely?
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    I told them the truth: its a terrible idea. We actually tried this already in our early experiments with them.

    Our initial goal was giving them a lifetime long enough so that they could develop an approximate, rudimentary form of enlightenment. In their natural state; they either exist in a state of panic, or are distracting themselves from their subconscious fear of impending death. Good luck teaching that transquantum superentagled meditation.

    But the hairless monkeys go nuts after about 200 solar rotations! I'm not joking, they go wackballs. It drives them crazier than when we pull their skin off. They start thinking they're gods, drinking the blood of their neighbors, just weird bizarre shiat. It would have been horrific if we were speaking of a galactic species of consequence.
  • hubiestubert: So, he eats well, exercises and keeps stress down?

    That's not 'reducing his age.' That is just 'taking care of yourself', which $800M can do for someone.

    We are likely going to crack the aging riddle within a century or two, and maybe even have some treatment that will allow for extended lifespans in another fifty years or so--beyond, 'eat right and exercise and have regular check-ups.'

    Fetal tissue injections, magic herbs, electric fields, it's hookum and smoke, but that is hardly a new thing. Though, maybe if we could convince a few billionaires that infusions of quicksilver would make them immortal, the world might be a better place in a few years.


    There's also the concept of "aging escape velocity", where you're still alive when one of the lifespan extensions hiats, which buys you enough time for another, which buys you more time, and so on, so even if it takes two centuries, you're actually around to see it. It's all a matter of how fast lifespans go up, and when they start to do so, obviously the younger you currently are, the better the chance you'll make the cut-off.

    That said, yeah, anything already on the market is snake oil. Some serious research is going into this, some of it with promising results at least in mice, but there's nothing in human trials yet, and currently nothing approved and released.
  • Dustin_00: Badmoodman: If this guy comes to see you, be sure and have plenty of air freshener handy, and maybe keep some windows open:


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    If you eat veggies all the time, you're fine... until you give in and buy a take-out burger, then you'll be gassy.

    Or, if you eat meat every meal, you're fine... until someone forces a salad on you, then you'll be gassy.

    It's the transition between the two foods that causes a large change in your gut bacteria -- one type has a mass die-off, and their death is what releases the gas.


    I don't know... I eat my vegetables every day and the farts are just terrible.
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    Bill Stickers is innocent!
  • trerro: hubiestubert: So, he eats well, exercises and keeps stress down?

    That's not 'reducing his age.' That is just 'taking care of yourself', which $800M can do for someone.

    We are likely going to crack the aging riddle within a century or two, and maybe even have some treatment that will allow for extended lifespans in another fifty years or so--beyond, 'eat right and exercise and have regular check-ups.'

    Fetal tissue injections, magic herbs, electric fields, it's hookum and smoke, but that is hardly a new thing. Though, maybe if we could convince a few billionaires that infusions of quicksilver would make them immortal, the world might be a better place in a few years.

    There's also the concept of "aging escape velocity", where you're still alive when one of the lifespan extensions hiats, which buys you enough time for another, which buys you more time, and so on, so even if it takes two centuries, you're actually around to see it. It's all a matter of how fast lifespans go up, and when they start to do so, obviously the younger you currently are, the better the chance you'll make the cut-off.

    That said, yeah, anything already on the market is snake oil. Some serious research is going into this, some of it with promising results at least in mice, but there's nothing in human trials yet, and currently nothing approved and released.


    No human living will live longer than 125 years. It would take recoding our genetics to create a new quasi-human will more regenerative abilities, at very least for our brains which could be transplanted.
  • Mugato: scottydoesntknow: The f*ck is spermidine and why is this guy eating so much of it?

    I don't know but it has "sperm" in the name so I'd skip it.


    The dude doth protest too much, methinks.
  • johnphantom: No human living will live longer than 125 years. It would take recoding our genetics to create a new quasi-human will more regenerative abilities, at very least for our brains which could be transplanted.


    We already have the ability to recode our genetics:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR_gene_editing

    As that method improves, and newer ones are developed, total custom editing of our genetic source code is a very real thing that's being figured out now, with modern tech. So yes we need that, but no, that's not sci fi anymore, it's current science.
  • trerro: johnphantom: No human living will live longer than 125 years. It would take recoding our genetics to create a new quasi-human will more regenerative abilities, at very least for our brains which could be transplanted.

    We already have the ability to recode our genetics:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR_gene_editing

    As that method improves, and newer ones are developed, total custom editing of our genetic source code is a very real thing that's being figured out now, with modern tech. So yes we need that, but no, that's not sci fi anymore, it's current science.


    We are just scratching the surface of genetics, it is still largely a mystery. We are far away from allowing experimentation with outright humans and an even longer away from doing it in large enough numbers to be successful at it.
  • I mean, if there was a genetic switch that turned on living forever, nature and evolution would have flipped that switch by now. Us living forever is genetically much much more than that.
  • It might just be that tech billionaires have a huge ego, and think they know a lot about biotech and medicine.
    The snake oil peddlers also know this and do very well once they gain their trust.
    Longevity hucksters sell plasma to the elderly, lots of dietary supplements, and "consultation" fees.
  • Dustin_00: Badmoodman: If this guy comes to see you, be sure and have plenty of air freshener handy, and maybe keep some windows open:


    [Fark user image 850x878]

    If you eat veggies all the time, you're fine... until you give in and buy a take-out burger, then you'll be gassy.

    Or, if you eat meat every meal, you're fine... until someone forces a salad on you, then you'll be gassy.

    It's the transition between the two foods that causes a large change in your gut bacteria -- one type has a mass die-off, and their death is what releases the gas.


    Do you have some kind of evidence for this claim?  Conventional wisdom is that flatulence of this kind is produced by living bacteria breaking down indigestible or unused energy sources; typically fiber, but not always.  I've never once heard mass-death postulated as a likely gas source.
  • God news: You get to live ten years longer.
    Bad news: You have to spend it eating weird shiat and exercising.

    Pass.
  • Jesus McSordid: God news: You get to live ten years longer.
    Bad news: You have to spend it eating weird shiat and exercising.

    Pass.


    Great typo.
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