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PartTimeBuddha: Guys?
Um... GUYS?
Irainian Air Force to start Gulf manoeuvres (new window).
I can't help but think this is not the best time for this...
Awesome idea fellows. Lets provoke a shooting war with the US. I really really hope that naval and air forces are being given strict instructions to hold their fire as long as possible. I would be very surprised if they're stupid enough to actually pull the trigger and attack an American plane or ship. They're trying to provoke us to shoot first.
Though to be honest, I say let them fly their manuevers and keep out of the way if at all possible. Burns jet fuel and a national strike will deprive them of resupply at anything but vastly inflated crisis prices.
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PartTimeBuddha: Guys?
Um... GUYS?
Irainian Air Force to start Gulf manoeuvres (new window).
I can't help but think this is not the best time for this...
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Vs.
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Yeah not worried about this. You know the US troops are hankering to fark some of these guys up anyway.
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shivashakti: drew46n2:
doubtful.
I'm not pro-Ahmadinejad, but why is that doubtful? Are official records recording otherwise or is it just a case that we don't want to see the guy we don't like win?
I believe what is bringing the elections into question is the fact that the numbers are off (and I can't remember by how much - haven't had a full cup of coffee yet this morning) with respect to (a) the number of ballots cast in certain areas vs. the actual number of people living in those areas, (b) the amount of time it took them to count millions of votes (eg., it was done in an unimaginably short amount of time), and (c) the skewed vote results in what was the most hotly and closely contested election in post-revolution era Iran.
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CanisNoir: Jib Jab (new window)
For a little levity this morning...
/Made ma laugh
//I'm a conservative douchebag tho, so take that into account :P
You're not a douche. You're one of the guys whom i never agree with but whom I like a great deal, for what it's worth.
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wolvernova: Millions of Iranians disagree with you, and are willing to risk arrest and personal injury to voice that. Maybe a spoiled shiat like you can't appreciate that, but the rest of us can.
I actually agree with him. He won the election and got a mandate JUST LIKE BUSH DID...
/I know, feeding trolls, blah blah...joke was too good to pass up.
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I'm an Egyptian!: I'm guessing you've been to the sandbox a few times.
No. I was conceived while Ike was president. Now if you'd like to talk about hobbit country jungle...
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shivashakti: I'm not pro-Ahmadinejad, but why is that doubtful?
They claim they managed to hand count 36 million ballots faster than the US manages to tally electronic ballots.
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shivashakti: drew46n2:
doubtful.
I'm not pro-Ahmadinejad, but why is that doubtful? Are official records recording otherwise or is it just a case that we don't want to see the guy we don't like win?
they counted over 30 million paper ballots in under 3 hours.
the guy that lost, lost in his own hometown in a landslide. The government is so arrogant they made no effort to even appear to actually count the ballots.
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wolvernova: Millions of Iranians disagree with you,
Isn't that an overstatement? And I believe he was being obviously facetious.
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PartTimeBuddha: FredaDeStilleto: @austinheap: *PERSONALLY CONFIRMED FROM #IRAN* Tanks have rolled in Tehran #iranelection less than 20 seconds ago from web
Ooops (if true).
THIS IS WHY THE 2ND AMENDMENT WAS PENNED.
Other countries don't have this protection. Even the US doesn't anymore(1). Especially with "assault" weapon bans that include superficial characteristics like "thumbhole stocks" - let alone heavy hardware like TOW missiles and RPGs - (1)how the hell do you think the Iranian people can stop things like TANKS?
It's like that damn bombing of the tomb of the first Ayatollah - where the hell are law-abiding Iranian people supposed to GET high explosives? It's completely a government-planned shill. If protesters did it, it would have been a molotov-cocktail or a dumpster fire!
It's not the possibility of vehicle loss that is stopping the Iranian military from using the tanks. It's the simple fact if they start razing neighborhoods, they'll get their own personal version of the Hezbollah that is anti-Khameinei.
Plus, they could just do what China did at Tienanmen. Massive government crackdown, tanks ho, and just keep killing until people stop protesting. The international community didn't do a damn thing about that. Tienanmen became a textbook example of how to suppress a protest. Don't think Iran won't try to emulate that.
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shivashakti: drew46n2:
doubtful.
I'm not pro-Ahmadinejad, but why is that doubtful? Are official records recording otherwise or is it just a case that we don't want to see the guy we don't like win?
It can't be said for certain at this stage.What we can say is that it's fishy, and that the behaviour of the regime -- eg. comms blackout, killing people -- would seem to be an odd way to represent to the world (and nationally) that they're all "Look! We haz decomocratic!"
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/God bless each of you fighting for your freedoms. I hope you come out of this safely.
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Marla Singer's Laundry: You're not a douche. You're one of the guys whom i never agree with but whom I like a great deal, for what it's worth.
Don't be fooled, Canis is a douche...he's just a really cool, easy to get along with, fun to hang out with douche :p
/Dude bought me a beer and DVDs even though he's never met me...
/Even if he's a douche, he's cool :p
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With the video, I am way to far away to have helped. When you are there you also have at least a litle guilt of "i should have been able to help"
Except you actively SOUGHT OUT the video, both of you, making you voyeurs at best, no? Morbid, sick curiosity masked as humanitarian concern?
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witchofthedogs: shivashakti: drew46n2:
doubtful.
I'm not pro-Ahmadinejad, but why is that doubtful? Are official records recording otherwise or is it just a case that we don't want to see the guy we don't like win?
I believe what is bringing the elections into question is the fact that the numbers are off (and I can't remember by how much - haven't had a full cup of coffee yet this morning) with respect to (a) the number of ballots cast in certain areas vs. the actual number of people living in those areas, (b) the amount of time it took them to count millions of votes (eg., it was done in an unimaginably short amount of time), and (c) the skewed vote results in what was the most hotly and closely contested election in post-revolution era Iran.
yeah this...
some areas had 140% voter turnout.
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Frank du TV: Though to be honest, I say let them fly their manuevers and keep out of the way if at all possible. Burns jet fuel and a national strike will deprive them of resupply at anything but vastly inflated crisis prices.
Yup. But it's an awful crowded little Gulf.
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luckyeddie: UNC_Samurai: clowncar on fire: Khamanei: We decided to be generous and cool the protesters down with water (severely paraphrased and much less funn then originally stated)
HI BILLY MAYS HERE FOR THE AMAZING CHOPPER STOPPER! DO YOU HAVE PROTESTERS WHO ARE HOT AND BELLIGERENT? THE SOLUTION IS IN THE AIR OVER TEHRAN'S SQUARES! FROM AZADI TO FATAMI, THIS CHOPPER STOPPER DELIVERS A TSUNAMI!
It was funny the first time. Now you're just coming over as a dick. Please stop sniffing glue so early in the day.
A little sand in your vajayjay this morning?
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CheetahMk2: wharrgarbl
Leave this to the other threads for now.
We can (and will) argue about it later.
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blastoh: I'm an Egyptian!: blastoh: I'm an Egyptian!: Watching the moment is hard. That look tends to stay with you. At least it was on video. IRL is harder.
i think the IRL life part is that feeling of helplessness. With the video, I am way to far away to have helped. When you are there you also have at least a litle guilt of "i should have been able to help"
That's a huge part of it, and the suckiest part. Tends to make the moment stick a bit more. I think a lot of the people here are feeling that sense of helplessness, as well as identification with Neda.
Only signifies how helpless to help a lot of us are in different parts of the world. And that is why this video did hit so hard.
That makes it worse. So many people want to help. They may not only know not how to help, but seeing that throws that helplessness into sharp relief. But we are helping in our own small way, even if we don't know how to set up proxies or get the info. We are bearing witness. If we don't do it, all will be for naught.
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I'm an Egyptian!: One thing that I wrote in the other thread (and got yelled at for making people cry, sorry) is how we're looking at the event. Neda's death was horror, but in that horror is beauty. Think of it this way. We witnessed the loss of a young life, but we saw complete strangers recognize the worth of her life. In recognizing this, she did not die alone. Not only did she bring together strangers at the scene, but she has united us from around the world. She has given us an incredible gift, one that we should honor.
THIS. A thousand times this.
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wolvernova: Black Moses: i'm really sick of seeing this perpetual Iran thread
Then fark off.
Black Moses: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad obviously won the election with a mandate the same as W the Bush did.
Millions of Iranians disagree with you, and are willing to risk arrest and personal injury to voice that. Maybe a spoiled shiat like you can't appreciate that, but the rest of us can.
THIS.
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drew46n2: shivashakti: drew46n2:
doubtful.
I'm not pro-Ahmadinejad, but why is that doubtful? Are official records recording otherwise or is it just a case that we don't want to see the guy we don't like win?
they counted over 30 million paper ballots in under 3 hours.
the guy that lost, lost in his own hometown in a landslide. The government is so arrogant they made no effort to even appear to actually count the ballots.
What are you people talking about? Of COURSE they counted all the votes! They went above and beyond the call of duty and counted well past 100% of the reporting votes in some districts!
/Seriously, over 100% turnout in several voting districts.
/Not about the election anymore, people...get up to date.
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globalwarmingpraiser: PartTimeBuddha: Guys?
Um... GUYS?
Irainian Air Force to start Gulf manoeuvres (new window).
I can't help but think this is not the best time for this...
Link (new window)
Vs.
Link (new window)
Yeah not worried about this. You know the US troops are hankering to fark some of these guys up anyway.
I can confirm. we've been hankering for some O' dat ass since 2001.
It's kinda like playing Monopoly. We've got Afghanistan and Iraq, all we need is Iran and that side of the board is ours.
Air Assault!
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CanisNoir: Jib Jab (new window)
For a little levity this morning...
/Made ma laugh
//I'm a conservative douchebag tho, so take that into account :P
That's one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. Borderline Trey Parker quality.
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drew46n2: yeah this...
some areas had 140% voter turnout.
Sure..well, it makes sense then that people would question it.
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