shivashakti:I'm not pro-Ahmadinejad, but why is that doubtful? Are official records recording otherwise or is it just a case that we don't want to see the guy we don't like win?
Well you have to take into account the reactions of the Regime. First they announced the winner before anyone could conceivably count the ballots and it's not like they have exit polling. Then the Regime said "Okay, okay we'll do a partial recount if that will make you happy.". Then before the recount, Supreme Leader shows up at prayers and says 'There is no fraud because our system doesn't allow it. Remember that recount? Psych! Achmadinijad is the clear winner."
If it was a slam dunk that Achmadinijad had won, there would have just been a recout with more transparency to demonstrate that he did in fact win; you know what they say, it's not the crime but the cover up that kill's ya. I think that truism is now in play.
Sorry to be that person but... I didn't see anything in the overall briefing at the beginning of the thread on what is going on outside Tehran. Are there large or confirmed protests in other cities/towns (ie. Rasht, Shiraz, Tabriz, etc)?
I worry that they will crack down harder in areas that can't get video and messages out as well as those in Tehran seem to be able to at this point.
s1ugg0:Mellorax: I'm an Egyptian!: One thing that I wrote in the other thread (and got yelled at for making people cry, sorry) is how we're looking at the event. Neda's death was horror, but in that horror is beauty. Think of it this way. We witnessed the loss of a young life, but we saw complete strangers recognize the worth of her life. In recognizing this, she did not die alone. Not only did she bring together strangers at the scene, but she has united us from around the world. She has given us an incredible gift, one that we should honor.
THIS. A thousand times this.
I know what your trying to say. But I'm sorry but I can't agree with this. All I see is a tragic loss. A horrible and terrible act committed on an innocent woman.
I can't help but feel rage and loss after seeing that video.
/Just proves that the protestors need to start fighting back.
You can really tell a difference in the type of trolls these threads dig up. All the higher quality trolls fark is known for seem to have left these threads completely alone. That leaves the few very low people who would demean the situation and the threads trying to keep track of what is happening. And they do so all for the sake of attention. As if no one else has thought of it or tried it yet in one of the other myriad of threads over the last week.
We get it already. You made a joke or troll to rile up people who are earnestly concerned for different reasons about these events. Clearly, being worried about the violence and people being hurt or wanting to see history in the making is something worthy of being made fun of. Go away now that you've shown your cleverness to us.
Urbn:Sorry to be that person but... I didn't see anything in the overall briefing at the beginning of the thread on what is going on outside Tehran. Are there large or confirmed protests in other cities/towns (ie. Rasht, Shiraz, Tabriz, etc)?
I worry that they will crack down harder in areas that can't get video and messages out as well as those in Tehran seem to be able to at this point.
There were reports of protests in Shiraz and other, more rural areas, but I'm not sure they were ever confirmed.
RT from IRE: RT lotfan UNCONFIRMED VIDEO: Today's protests in Tehran , http://bit.ly/8x2DJ #iranelection #gr88 If true, it is good to know that the people of Iran still protest, and there are rumors of a nationwide strike including the bazaars and the oil workers if you follow twitter. The bus workers are already striking.
s1ugg0:Mellorax: I'm an Egyptian!: One thing that I wrote in the other thread (and got yelled at for making people cry, sorry) is how we're looking at the event. Neda's death was horror, but in that horror is beauty. Think of it this way. We witnessed the loss of a young life, but we saw complete strangers recognize the worth of her life. In recognizing this, she did not die alone. Not only did she bring together strangers at the scene, but she has united us from around the world. She has given us an incredible gift, one that we should honor.
THIS. A thousand times this.
I know what your trying to say. But I'm sorry but I can't agree with this. All I see is a tragic loss. A horrible and terrible act committed on an innocent woman.
I can't help but feel rage and loss after seeing that video.
/Just proves that the protestors need to start fighting back.
I can agree with both sides. The world lost a beautiful young woman when Neda died, but in her death we are motivated to act and attempt to insure that such tragedies do not happen again, or are not in vane.
Take the rage instilled in you from watching Neda die and use it to play your part in fighting Tyranny, whatever that part maybe.
PartTimeBuddha: You like people.
Only with fava beans and a little chianti.
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shivashakti: I'm not pro-Ahmadinejad, but why is that doubtful? Are official records recording otherwise or is it just a case that we don't want to see the guy we don't like win?
Well you have to take into account the reactions of the Regime. First they announced the winner before anyone could conceivably count the ballots and it's not like they have exit polling. Then the Regime said "Okay, okay we'll do a partial recount if that will make you happy.". Then before the recount, Supreme Leader shows up at prayers and says 'There is no fraud because our system doesn't allow it. Remember that recount? Psych! Achmadinijad is the clear winner."
If it was a slam dunk that Achmadinijad had won, there would have just been a recout with more transparency to demonstrate that he did in fact win; you know what they say, it's not the crime but the cover up that kill's ya. I think that truism is now in play.
Just my .02
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My head hurts, and I may have made an ass of myself last night. Please disregard.
/did I really offer Tatsuma a cheeseburger?
//fail :(
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Abstruse: Water doesn't cause severe skin irritation.
Unless it's boiling.
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I didn't see anything in the overall briefing at the beginning of the thread on what is going on outside Tehran. Are there large or confirmed protests in other cities/towns (ie. Rasht, Shiraz, Tabriz, etc)?
I worry that they will crack down harder in areas that can't get video and messages out as well as those in Tehran seem to be able to at this point.
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Marla Singer's Laundry: You're not a douche. You're one of the guys whom i never agree with but whom I like a great deal, for what it's worth.
BIE? ;P
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PartTimeBuddha:
You like people.
Careful, they might do a #6 on you.
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s1ugg0: Mellorax: I'm an Egyptian!: One thing that I wrote in the other thread (and got yelled at for making people cry, sorry) is how we're looking at the event. Neda's death was horror, but in that horror is beauty. Think of it this way. We witnessed the loss of a young life, but we saw complete strangers recognize the worth of her life. In recognizing this, she did not die alone. Not only did she bring together strangers at the scene, but she has united us from around the world. She has given us an incredible gift, one that we should honor.
THIS. A thousand times this.
I know what your trying to say. But I'm sorry but I can't agree with this. All I see is a tragic loss. A horrible and terrible act committed on an innocent woman.
I can't help but feel rage and loss after seeing that video.
/Just proves that the protestors need to start fighting back.
S'okay. It is a tragic loss. It's hard to see.
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what_now:
/did I really offer Tatsuma a cheeseburger?
//fail :(
Nice. Offer him some barbecue pork while you're at it.. ;^)
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Perfectly understandable.
Trolls? Trolls? Ha. We have CNN to tell us what is happening. Troll protection of the best sort.
Gen. Jim
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We get it already. You made a joke or troll to rile up people who are earnestly concerned for different reasons about these events. Clearly, being worried about the violence and people being hurt or wanting to see history in the making is something worthy of being made fun of. Go away now that you've shown your cleverness to us.
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Urbn: Sorry to be that person but...
I didn't see anything in the overall briefing at the beginning of the thread on what is going on outside Tehran. Are there large or confirmed protests in other cities/towns (ie. Rasht, Shiraz, Tabriz, etc)?
I worry that they will crack down harder in areas that can't get video and messages out as well as those in Tehran seem to be able to at this point.
There were reports of protests in Shiraz and other, more rural areas, but I'm not sure they were ever confirmed.
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JesusGaveMuhammadAFacial: Overnight updates, anyone?
Neda died for our sins and shall come back to judge the Living and the Dead.
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JesusGaveMuhammadAFacial: Overnight updates, anyone?
You have become One with the Machine. A greased party in the cycle of file.
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shivashakti: Unless it's boiling.
Someone suggested it had pepper spray/capcasin for the same effect.
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shivashakti: what_now:
/did I really offer Tatsuma a cheeseburger?
//fail :(
Nice. Offer him some barbecue pork while you're at it.. ;^)
It was American Cheese so there was no actual cheese involved.
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wolvernova:
That's one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. Borderline Trey Parker quality.
Agreed; favorite part was "(gasp) Pirates!" shait had me rolling.
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what_now: *whimper*
My head hurts, and I may have made an ass of myself last night. Please disregard.
/did I really offer Tatsuma a cheeseburger?
//fail :(
Take a couple of aspirin and some Gatorade. Don't worry about making an ass of yourself, we all understand.
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wolvernova: Ceteris Paribus says: wolvernova: Millions of Iranians disagree with you,
Isn't that an overstatement? And I believe he was being obviously facetious.
Not an overstatement at all. Been following the news?
I haven't seen anything that indicates the protesters number in anything higher than thousands.
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s1ugg0: Mellorax: I'm an Egyptian!: One thing that I wrote in the other thread (and got yelled at for making people cry, sorry) is how we're looking at the event. Neda's death was horror, but in that horror is beauty. Think of it this way. We witnessed the loss of a young life, but we saw complete strangers recognize the worth of her life. In recognizing this, she did not die alone. Not only did she bring together strangers at the scene, but she has united us from around the world. She has given us an incredible gift, one that we should honor.
THIS. A thousand times this.
I know what your trying to say. But I'm sorry but I can't agree with this. All I see is a tragic loss. A horrible and terrible act committed on an innocent woman.
I can't help but feel rage and loss after seeing that video.
/Just proves that the protestors need to start fighting back.
I can agree with both sides. The world lost a beautiful young woman when Neda died, but in her death we are motivated to act and attempt to insure that such tragedies do not happen again, or are not in vane.
Take the rage instilled in you from watching Neda die and use it to play your part in fighting Tyranny, whatever that part maybe.
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