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  • Praise Cheesus: ThisNameSux: I don't agree with this at all. Give them civil unions and that's it.

    Can I ask you what the difference is between a "civil union", as you would prefer, and a "civil marriage", which is what this legislation allows, is?


    How about this: "Separate but equal" is inherently unequal. Link (new window)
  • expobill: Didgeridon't: Nice to see that NYS has solved all its problems and can focus on the important things, like gay marriage.


    /the state is a total shiat-hole

    and some places there charge $10 for a beer!



    NYC is a wonderful place to visit, but I'll take my $3 Molson any day of the week over their $10 Yuengling and Sam Adams (if you're lucky)
  • Dick_Hertz: WOW Now BUTT frkkERS are just as COOL as A$$ BANDITS
    Soon Dogg frkkING will be MARRIAGE in New Yahk !!!
    KOOL !!!
    Life is SO MUCH BETTER Today !!!


    How old are you?
    If you're older than 12, you have my condolences.
  • gja

    My God, you are naive. Liberty is one thing, you want justice?
    Better have plenty of this:


    We're gay, remember?

    We already have plenty of loot.

    /not naive, but I did stay at a holiday inn last night.
  • I can practically hear the WHAAAAAAAmbulance revving up over at FOX 'news.'
  • Saw this posted on Twitter this morning:

    "Congratulations to my gay friends in NY. You now have the legal right to be as miserable as my straight friends in NY."
  • I will not support anything that could possibly bring peace to the Yankees and Red Sox:

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  • cameroncrazy1984: expobill: Didgeridon't: Nice to see that NYS has solved all its problems and can focus on the important things, like gay marriage.


    /the state is a total shiat-hole

    and some places there charge $10 for a beer!


    NYC is a wonderful place to visit, but I'll take my $3 Molson any day of the week over their $10 Yuengling and Sam Adams (if you're lucky)


    You've obviously been to the wrong NYC bars.

    /had craft cask brews for $5 a glass at Barcade tonight
  • All marriages in the U.S. are civil marriages. The government contracts out the right to perform them to clergy. When you get married by a priest, he has to sign a government-issued form. You get a government-issued license. The priest has to say that the power to perform the marriage was vested in him by the state.
  • EchoMike

    This is the best news since New York legalized marijuana:

    I wish.

    Seriously though, I'm not cheering until cannabis has been made legal for all. I don't just mean medicinal, but recreational purposes as well. Once I, and indeed all of us can light up whenever we choose (if we choose), then I will cheer for everybody. Go ahead, marry whatever you want, I'll be too high to care!
  • phenn: God-is-a-Taco: Very nice. Baby steps.

    And also how sad that Obama has to ignore it (or even condemn it) or risk not getting elected again.

    This has fark-all to do with him. This is a state's issue. Remember, government redefined marriage (from a sacrament to a contract), not the gays. That put it in the purview of the state. The feds ain't got shiat to say about anything. Which makes all this defense of marriage talk utterly moot.

    Since only the states may sanction such a contract, they must show cause for removing the right to enter into such a contract. Yes? Being same-gendered does not give cause to the state to reduce that right.

    Do this - find your state's statutory scheme online and look up (under civil rights or probate chapters) how and when your state can reduce or remove your rights or privileges. It's typically after showing cause that you are no longer capable of making your own decisions. Has utterly nothing to do with sexual orientation.

    Thumbnail: the government never had - nor should have - the authority to tell you who you may call family.


    You're right, but I meant that on a personal level he can't say that he's for gay marriage or it'd be damaging to his 2012 campaign. Although we don't know his real opinion any way, like pretty much any politician.
  • slimfast: I will not support anything that could possibly bring peace to the Yankees and Red Sox:


    That picture is a disgusting abomination. A Yankee and a Red Sox fan kissing in public? It should be banned, lest small children get the wrong ideas about sports allegiances.
  • GWSuperfan: Praise Cheesus: ThisNameSux: I don't agree with this at all. Give them civil unions and that's it.

    Can I ask you what the difference is between a "civil union", as you would prefer, and a "civil marriage", which is what this legislation allows, is?

    How about this: "Separate but equal" is inherently unequal. Link (new window)


    As much as I dislike an overabundance of legislation coming down from the federal to the state government level, I would fully support a federal law or executive order that establishes a definition of marriage as a civil contract between two agreeing parties of the age of majority, executed in the presence of an official designated to preside over such agreements. In short, if two adults wish to enter into an agreement, they can - no matter what their race, creed, color or gender may be.
  • RottenEggs: Points and laughs at New York.


    sure you are.

    /:D
  • 1) I wish they'd stop saying I can now marry whoever you want in NY. WRONG. I highly doubt I can marry Katy Perry or Zooey Deschanel just by cossing the state line.

    2) my sister got married friday and we're staying in my time share and they grabbed a room in the same time share for the weekend. (they werent able to go away and have a big deal honeymoon) they checked into their room and then we headed to our room to have a few drinks and chill and I got a text that it had passed. so my wife says "I think gays should have the right to just as miserable as us married folks!" I look at my sister and say "what are your thoughts on that mrs Bishop?"

    //csb
  • tony41454:

    Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. The man said, 'This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called 'woman,' for she was taken out of man.' For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh. (NIV) (Notice it said "united with his wife" not with his "boyfriend.")


    It also involved a woman being magically created out of a mans rib, even though man isn't actually missing any ribs. Odd to have a story that explains the absence of a bone when the bone in question isn't absent.

    Man is, however, pretty much the only mammal without a bone in his penis, and there is scholarly speculation that the type of bone removed from man was mistranslated, and in the original story was, in fact, the pubic bone.
  • Mayhem_2006: Man is, however, pretty much the only mammal without a bone in his penis, and there is scholarly speculation that the type of bone removed from man was mistranslated, and in the original story was, in fact, the pubic bone.


    Reference, for the curious.
  • lennavan: LockeOak: Well let's just wander over to FreepTown, I'm sure they're reacting well-- (new window)

    Oh dear.

    Okay, I don't want to steal anyone's schtick, or get any messages in my box or whatnot. But there was one, special and epic post that I simply must share.

    To: fwdude

    "Is the Assembly all on board with the exemptions added?"

    Doesn't matter. At a later date a liberal judge will throw the exemptions out after a lawsuit by the gay mafia.

    I lol'd pretty farking hard at that one.


    They still use that expression? I remember first hearing it during a psy class in the late 1970's while watching some1960's film about gays. That expression was used that far back.
  • tenpoundsofcheese: eddiesocket: tenpoundsofcheese: eddiesocket: tenpoundsofcheese: Awesome that the GOP controlled Senate passed this.

    They were pressured by the Democrat governor to bring it to a vote, and only four of them voted yes. Let's wait a few years before we try to rewrite history, shall we?

    It was passed by a GOP Senate. When a similar bill was put forward in 2009, it was stopped by a Democrat controlled Senate. Where was the Gov in 2009 to pressure the Dems?

    Hopefully, one day Obama will see the GOP was right on this and support same-sex marriage.

    Different Governor, and you're embarrassing yourself.

    Yeah, a blind person can see that the Dem Gov in 2009 was not willing to pressure the Dem Senate in 2009 to pass this.
    Yet, a GOP controlled Senate passed this in 2011.

    The only thing embarrassing is how pathetic the Dems were in 2009. It took a GOP led Senate to pass this.


    I noticed at the Gay Pride parade that it wasn't those Republican senators being praised but rather that Democratic Governor who had to twist their arms.
  • Nuff Said McFarky: sseye: Nuff Said McFarky: paj: This (R) guy on CNN said there weren't enough exemptions for "small-corporate religious objections." How exactly can a corporation be religious?

    Well, the Republicans worship corporations and want us to do the same.

    Is that a golden calf?

    It's a statue called "Charging Bull" located near Wall Street. Here it is without the throngs of tourists surrounding it:


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    It's the symbol of Wall street and a tourist attraction. Often you'll see groups of tourists taking pictures in front of it, and more recently they sometimes take pictures from the back, with some tourist cupping its "balls" aka "grabbing the bull by the balls".
  • Arkanaut: tenpoundsofcheese: Kumana Wanalaia: tenpoundsofcheese: eddiesocket: tenpoundsofcheese: Awesome that the GOP controlled Senate passed this.

    They were pressured by the Democrat governor to bring it to a vote, and only four of them voted yes. Let's wait a few years before we try to rewrite history, shall we?

    It was passed by a GOP Senate. When a similar bill was put forward in 2009, it was stopped by a Democrat controlled Senate. Where was the Gov in 2009 to pressure the Dems?

    The GOP did everything they could to stop this. The Dems were the ones who pushed the issue, and won.

    You appear to be suggesting that the credit for legalizing gay marriage in NY is due to the GOP. Is this, in fact, your position?

    The Dem controlled Senate stopped it in 2009.
    The GOP controlled Senate passed it in 2011.

    I don't remember that back in 2009 the headlines were "Dems reject same-sex marriage"

    Credit doesn't go to the GOP or the Dems but to the activists who have tireless campaigned for this to happen.

    I give Lady Gaga more credit than I do to any Dem or Republican.

    I wouldn't say the Democrats "controlled" the State Senate. Google "Pedro Espada" and "Hiram Monserrate" if you don't know what I mean.

    I will concede point that now that the Republicans no longer feel politically threatened, they no longer feel the pressure to vote in lockstep with the party. They should be proud; their strategy of holding the social policy preferences of most of the residents of this state ransom worked out well for them.


    And "Rev." Ruben Diaz, who was also a member of that crew and who among the Democrats had fought the hardest against this bill being passed.
  • Some Random Fat Guy: I don't know If it has been said already but Ruben Diaz Sr is a farking dickhole and should not be in office. He quite clearly showed he's basing his moral judgement and those of others on HIS god. Fark him


    Yeah, but it's his constituents who keep re-electing the turd, which suggests that they agree with him. Barring a scandal, it's up to them to vote him out.
  • abb3w: Mayhem_2006: Man is, however, pretty much the only mammal without a bone in his penis, and there is scholarly speculation that the type of bone removed from man was mistranslated, and in the original story was, in fact, the pubic bone.

    Reference, for the curious.


    Ta. I'm very lazy.

    Thinking about it, doesn't this mean that Adam married his own penis? So how can gay marriage be wrong?
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