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  • GMO crops are a blight on this planet and Monsanto is evil.
  • bring to a festering boil: GMO crops are a blight on this planet and Monsanto is evil.


    I tend to agree.

    And I'm actually kind of surprised the religious havent come out in opposition to genetically modified crops in the way they have with cloning and stem cell research. Wouldnt this also encroach on God's territory?
  • Frederick:

    *checks profile*

    We seem to share a lot in common in our views of the world and how it should function. Will you be attending the Vegas gathering?
  • Reserve more farmland for weeds.
  • Frederick: And I'm actually kind of surprised the religious havent come out in opposition to genetically modified crops in the way they have with cloning and stem cell research. Wouldnt this also encroach on God's territory?


    You miss the point, they haven't been TOLD to oppose it yet.

    Why do religious groups rail about gays but virtually ignore adultery which is far more common and banned by one of the ten commandments??? It's because they haven't been told to attack adulterers like they've been TOLD to attack gays. Religious groups are taught that gays are a product of the liberal mindset and are a threat to our nation. Politics injected into the religious consciousness.

    So until religious leaders stop kowtowing to 'fake conservative political values' and stop ignoring corporate violations of good stewardship, religions will never focus on the realities of our world.
  • ZAZ: Reserve more farmland for weeds.


    Or just plant it along roadways and in gardens and such as per the dude in the article. This isn't a problem with genetically engineered crops. It's the desired result having an unintended consequence.
  • So. FTA:

    "More important, they also found "that milkweed in the fields was disappearing," he said. That's because more farmers are using a new kind of genetically modified seed developed by Monsanto, Roundup-ready corn and soybeans, that contain a gene allowing the plants to withstand Roundup, or glyphosate. That allows farmers to spray their fields without harming the crop."

    BZZZZZZT. Thanks for playing, try again. Looks like you've got your effect and cause mixed up.

    This has only cursory things to do with GMOs. Roundup ready corn and soybeans did not cause milkweed in the fields to die. Farmers not wanting to have to deal with weeds in their fields and subsequently killing them caused the milkweed to die. I could plant Round-up ready corn or soybeans in a field year after year and the monarchs would thrive so long as I didn't spray. GMOs need not be involved at all. If you got everybody to go out to every field and weed incessantly, you'd still end up with the same result.

    So. Let's rephrase this article.

    'Farmers kill weeds in their fields because they'd like to grow crops without having to deal with weeds. Insects starve because their host plant is dead. People blame GMOs because blaming farmers for weeding doesn't grab attention'
  • Maybe I missed a Fark thread last Sunday -- the day it's estimated (by the U.S. census bureau) that the world's population passed the 7 Billion mark. (The U.N. estimate was October of last year.)

    We're destroying entire species in our quest for raw materials and food, not to mention profits, and to lose the Monarch (perhaps we should begin calling it the Monsanto butterfly) would be another tragedy in a long list

    but if the bees disappear, we're goners.
  • Butterflies, like pigeons, are flying rats.
  • The law of unintended consequences
  • Came for some reference to The Monarch, leaving disappointed.
  • Ed Finnerty

    Butterflies, like pigeons, are flying rats.

    This thread needs some Marty Robbins (new window)
  • SuperTramp: Maybe I missed a Fark thread last Sunday -- the day it's estimated (by the U.S. census bureau) that the world's population passed the 7 Billion mark. (The U.N. estimate was October of last year.)

    We're destroying entire species in our quest for raw materials and food, not to mention profits, and to lose the Monarch (perhaps we should begin calling it the Monsanto butterfly) would be another tragedy in a long list

    but if the bees disappear, we're goners.


    SuperTramp, you ignorant slut.

    1. The UN estimates that the world population will peak at 9 billion. The world can easily support that number, especially if people would just freaking stop raising animals for food and instead plant crops for direct human use.

    2. The desire to kill the milkweed in the fields is (maybe) killing off the butterflies. And there's an easy solution.

    3. The idea that we will starve if bees just disappear is a stupid myth.
  • 1. Put snakes on plane

    Is that you, Rush?
  • SuperTramp: 1. Put snakes on plane

    Is that you, Rush?


    You know you like it.
  • SuperTramp: 1. Put snakes on plane

    Is that you, Rush?


    1. Put snakes on plane

    You know you like it.

    Too bad you don't, Rushie-poo...
  • bring to a festering boil: GMO crops are a blight on this planet and Monsanto is evil.


    Agreed.
  • Kinek: So. FTA:

    "More important, they also found "that milkweed in the fields was disappearing," he said. That's because more farmers are using a new kind of genetically modified seed developed by Monsanto, Roundup-ready corn and soybeans, that contain a gene allowing the plants to withstand Roundup, or glyphosate. That allows farmers to spray their fields without harming the crop."

    BZZZZZZT. Thanks for playing, try again. Looks like you've got your effect and cause mixed up.

    This has only cursory things to do with GMOs. Roundup ready corn and soybeans did not cause milkweed in the fields to die. Farmers not wanting to have to deal with weeds in their fields and subsequently killing them caused the milkweed to die. I could plant Round-up ready corn or soybeans in a field year after year and the monarchs would thrive so long as I didn't spray. GMOs need not be involved at all. If you got everybody to go out to every field and weed incessantly, you'd still end up with the same result.

    So. Let's rephrase this article.

    'Farmers kill weeds in their fields because they'd like to grow crops without having to deal with weeds. Insects starve because their host plant is dead. People blame GMOs because blaming farmers for weeding doesn't grab attention'


    The GMO's allow the gross over-use of the plant killer Round-up. The Round-up wipes out the milk weed. So it's not the direct cause, no, but it sets the ball in motion.
  • Keep it up, clever monkeys.
    Just keep on f**kin' with shiat.
    Sooner or later, you'll do it.
    I don't know what "it" is going to be, but I have no doubt we'll figure it out.
  • I have been repeatedly assured that Man is far too insignificant to thwart God's will in this way and that it is a sin to think otherwise.
  • sno man: Kinek: So. FTA:

    "More important, they also found "that milkweed in the fields was disappearing," he said. That's because more farmers are using a new kind of genetically modified seed developed by Monsanto, Roundup-ready corn and soybeans, that contain a gene allowing the plants to withstand Roundup, or glyphosate. That allows farmers to spray their fields without harming the crop."

    BZZZZZZT. Thanks for playing, try again. Looks like you've got your effect and cause mixed up.

    This has only cursory things to do with GMOs. Roundup ready corn and soybeans did not cause milkweed in the fields to die. Farmers not wanting to have to deal with weeds in their fields and subsequently killing them caused the milkweed to die. I could plant Round-up ready corn or soybeans in a field year after year and the monarchs would thrive so long as I didn't spray. GMOs need not be involved at all. If you got everybody to go out to every field and weed incessantly, you'd still end up with the same result.

    So. Let's rephrase this article.

    'Farmers kill weeds in their fields because they'd like to grow crops without having to deal with weeds. Insects starve because their host plant is dead. People blame GMOs because blaming farmers for weeding doesn't grab attention'

    The GMO's allow the gross over-use of the plant killer Round-up. The Round-up wipes out the milk weed. So it's not the direct cause, no, but it sets the ball in motion.


    It allows for it. In the same way that planes allow for bombing. Or any number of false comparisons. The problem here is not the GMOs, but the application of extreme amounts of Round-up. Or just the fact that Farmers don't like weeds in their fields and will do things to stop them. So what do you propose? Not weeding?
  • Put snakes on plane, you ignoranter slut.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ crop_plants_pollinated_by_bees

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18442426/ ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/d e clining-honeybees-threat-food-supply/

    http://www.nrdc.org/wildlife/animals/ files/bees.pdf

    Of course, if that comment was just a troll, then good job on hooking me.
  • Nina_Hartley's_Ass: I have been repeatedly assured that Man is far too insignificant to thwart God's will in this way and that it is a sin to think otherwise.


    THIS. Isn't it arrogant to believe that our tiny, insignificant species could possibly have even the slightest effect on this big ol' world? That's what I'm repeatedly told about the climate, anyway.
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