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  • "...the U.N. says the French have a tendency to be rude"

    I had a friend who spent time in France, and she no trouble at all despite not speaking a word of French.

    She is however quite the hot-ness.
  • What a rude person may do. An entire rude nation doing this would be hard to imagine. I'll be in my room.

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  • Why the hell should they?
  • fireclown: Why the hell should they?


    I've been wondering about this as well...
  • fireclown: Why the hell should they?


    The threat of another barrage of impotent rhetoric from the US?
  • ristst: "...the U.N. says the French have a tendency to be rude"

    I had a friend who spent time in France, and she no trouble at all despite not speaking a word of French.

    She is however quite the hot-ness.



    Headline should probably say "Parisians." They're an entirely different kind of French, altogether.
  • BigNumber12: Headline should probably say "ParisiansQuebecois." They're an entirely different kind of French, altogether.


    That too.
  • I do believe it is time to quit playing along with stoopidity.
    It has not been working out very well.

    Turn over a new leaf and when you encounter stupid or it's buttbuddy, dishonesty, kick it in the nutz instead of politely pretending that it makes sense and respecting the crap.

    My 90yo Gma can not be redirected w/ strawmen, evasion, lies, diversion, et.al. Right to the guilt w/ a vengance every time. And you tell me our "Best and Brightest" can be snowed by any old con? Bulltweet. Drop the act, get responsible adults in office for a change.
    Oh, and take the media playthings away from the criminal shills.
  • snocone: Turn over a new leaf and when you encounter stupid or it's buttbuddy, dishonesty, kick it in the nutz instead of politely pretending that it makes sense and respecting the crap.


    I think this is a generally good rule in life itself. There's too much tolerance of stupidity and insanity. ''Well if that's how you want to do it man..."
  • BigNumber12: ristst: "...the U.N. says the French have a tendency to be rude"

    I had a friend who spent time in France, and she no trouble at all despite not speaking a word of French.

    She is however quite the hot-ness.


    Headline should probably say "Parisians." They're an entirely different kind of French, altogether.


    Headline should probably say "Parisians." They're an entirely different kind of French
  • fireclown: Why the hell should they?


    Because cooperation would result in an IAEA clean inspection report, which would be sweet to rub everyone's nose in.

    FTA, "the IAEA continues to verify that Iran's declared nuclear material is not being diverted from peaceful purposes" - and they continue to say all they want is nuclear energy, not weapons. I hate to be all NTH-NTF but in this case, 1) they can prove their innocence by cooperating with IAEA, and 2) they are NPT signatories, so IAEA asking to see something is like police showing up at your door with a very valid warrant. Not cooperating makes them look guilty, which puts them in a position of having LOTS to be afraid of.
  • sodomizer: snocone: Turn over a new leaf and when you encounter stupid or it's buttbuddy, dishonesty, kick it in the nutz instead of politely pretending that it makes sense and respecting the crap.

    I think this is a generally good rule in life itself. There's too much tolerance of stupidity and insanity. ''Well if that's how you want to do it man..."


    Agreed....
    "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil" - Thomas Mann
  • It's not going to matter anymore. Israel said they will not sit idly by and do nothing. The Iranian nuclear arms program is either going to be blown to hell and back or turned to slag.
  • no one cares about a nation of people that fight with their feet and fark with their face.
  • acidsurfer: fireclown: Why the hell should they?

    I've been wondering about this as well...


    Because when you sign the NPT and then have or attempt to have Nuclear material you submit to inspections? Yes, even the US allows IAEA inspectors. From the Treaty between the US and the IAEA:

    Article 9

    (a) (i) The Agency shall secure the consent of the United States to the designation of Agency inspectors to the United States.

    (ii) If the United States, either upon proposal of a designation or at any other time after designation has been made, objects to the designation, the Agency shall propose to the United States an alternative designation or designations.

    (iii) If, as a result of the repeated refusal of the United States to accept the designation of Agency inspectors, inspections to be conducted under this Agreement would be impeded, such refusal shall be considered by the Board, upon referral by the Director General of the Agency (hereinafter referred to as "the Director General") with a view to its taking appropriate action.
    (b) The United States shall take the necessary steps to ensure that Agency inspectors can effectively discharge their functions under this Agreement.

    (c) The visits and activities of Agency inspectors shall be so arranged as:

    (i) To reduce to a minimum the possible inconvenience and disturbance to the United States and to the peaceful nuclear activities inspected; and

    (ii) To ensure protection of industrial secrets or any other confidential information coming to the inspectors knowledge.
  • DECMATH: fireclown: Why the hell should they?

    Because cooperation would result in an IAEA clean inspection report, which would be sweet to rub everyone's nose in.


    There is a possibility that they care less about embarrassing their enemies, and more about killing them.

    /just sayin'
    //there is also a possibility that the people supporting persecution of the stupid and crazy will suddenly start opposing it the first time they make a mistake, and consequently get labeled stupid and/or crazy themselves
  • Iran must do what Israel the UN US says.
  • oooooh, I bet Iran is really scared of Obama. Of course they will not cooperate. Obama will do NOTHING to stop Iran from getting a nuke and those crazy mullahs know it.

    And the world will be much more dangerous for it. Thank you, Obama Voters!

    Go Fark yourselves.

    I voted for Romney and I am proud of my vote. Obama will fark this country up even more and it is not my fault.
  • DECMATH: "cause cooperation would result in an IAEA clean inspection report, which would be sweet to rub everyone's nose in."

    Please. The Warmongers would just insist the Iranians spirited away the weapons grade plutonium to hidey holes in the Syrian desert. They're quite reality-resistant.

    The correct answer is that they *should* want to cooperate, because the clean report would gut the international consensus to erect/maintain/tighten sanctions. Sanctions which have this nasty tendency to be felt by the people, who won't much like their own government for it. (In this age of information, the average Iranian knows damn well that any impact sanctions have on their own daily life are the direct result of obstinate mullahs. Maybe, before, that wasn't true. But now? Pretty true.) And Iran already has something of a lingering discontent among its people. Particularly after seemingly *everyone else* had more success in the Arab Spring than they did.

    Which, ironically perhaps, is exactly why Iran *can't* cooperate. Their remaining support is almost exclusively hard-line. They can't be seen to bow to international pressure, let alone the Great Satan. Taking the rational deal would be like expecting a Tea Party Republican to sign off on any legislation that looked remotely like a compromise on taxes and spending: their own support would evaporate overnight and they'd be out on their ass.

    Which is a decidedly messier transition, when you've been running a brutal and oppressive regime.
  • darkedgefan: oooooh, I bet Iran is really scared of Obama. Of course they will not cooperate. Obama will do NOTHING to stop Iran from getting a nuke and those crazy mullahs know it.

    And the world will be much more dangerous for it. Thank you, Obama Voters!

    Go Fark yourselves.

    I voted for Romney and I am proud of my vote. Obama will fark this country up even more and it is not my fault.


    Really??? Starting early, I see. 3/10.
  • jjorsett: fireclown: Why the hell should they?

    The threat of another barrage of impotent rhetoric from the US?


    That's our problem. We should use French rudeness to our advantage, and have them craft a barrage of impotent rhetoric. It will make us all feel better.

    Except the Iranians, of course, who will have their feelings hurt.
  • Snarfangel: jjorsett: fireclown: Why the hell should they?

    The threat of another barrage of impotent rhetoric from the US?

    That's our problem. We should use French rudeness to our advantage, and have them craft a barrage of impotent rhetoric. It will make us all feel better.

    Except the Iranians, of course, who will have their feelings hurt.


    we could have them fart in their general direction
  • Smeggy Smurf: It's not going to matter anymore. Israel said they will not sit idly by and do nothing. The Iranian nuclear arms program is either going to be blown to hell and back or turned to slag.


    Israel does not have the capability to significantly set back Iran's nuclear program by themselves. They were able to bomb Iraq's Osiraq reactor as that was a single installation and Iraq is much closer than Iran, but Iran's nuclear program is distributed across a large number of sites, many of which are hardened against air attack.

    Israel can, however, drop a few bombs in Iran and force Iran to react one way or another, which would almost certainly drag us into the mess whether we want it or not. That's the real danger for us.

    It's not even clear that we could do much to stop Iran's program with anything short of a sustained air campaign. If Iran uses the nuclear option that it already has-mining the gulf-then we'll almost certainly have to try, but the costs of that will be horrendous. We'd be better served by shooting Israel's planes down ourselves.
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