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  • You'd figure with the number of missiles they launched they'd at least hit something.

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  • And they can build a nuke?
  • The drone probably listed lazily to the left.

    / the pilot knew some maneuvers
  • edmo: And they can build a nuke?


    No one said they have the capability to deliver it.
  • They tried to shoot it down with 30mm guns from a ground attack aircraft it seems.

    A far cry from say, sending proper interceptors to do it, but still a black mark on their airforce.
  • In all fairness to the Iranian pilots, Iran only has a handful of that kind of plane, and they're probably falling apart with age-so the pilots don't get much in the way of training time, actually flying them.

    Chances are, the 'dogfight' was less Highway to the Danger Zone and more along the lines of 'Hey, Achmed, which button fires the guns again? I thought it was the blue one'

    So, yeah, still not really compelling evidence that they're a military threat.
  • iheartscotch: The drone probably listed lazily to the left.

    / the pilot knew some maneuvers


    I laughed!

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  • Iran used Su-25s. You know GROUND ATTACK aircraft? This would be like the U.S. sending up A-10s to shoot down a aircraft.

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  • This is kind of like trying to hit a fly with a sledgehammer. Not really surprised they missed.
  • I couldn't help but notice that the writer left off of his list of air battles the one where we took out one of their passenger jets over international waters. We kicked but that day.
  • So uh... let's say they do shoot one down... so what? It's an overgrown model airplane. We've got lots more, too.
  • Just released photo from drone of Iranian fighter.
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  • Yet Iran managed to intercept and land unscathed a top-secret stealth RQ-170 drone which really pissed off the US. They must have fixed the vulnerability.
    The question is, was this a stealth drone or not, and did their assumed reverse-engineering of the stealth technology on the RQ-170 lead to them detecting it? The US must have balls of steel to do this and risk exposure. Not sure what right a foreign nation has flying a drone in another country. We certainly wouldn't stand for it...
  • detritus: Yet Iran managed to intercept and land unscathed a top-secret stealth RQ-170 drone which really pissed off the US. They must have fixed the vulnerability.
    The question is, was this a stealth drone or not, and did their assumed reverse-engineering of the stealth technology on the RQ-170 lead to them detecting it? The US must have balls of steel to do this and risk exposure. Not sure what right a foreign nation has flying a drone in another country. We certainly wouldn't stand for it...


    I still don't think that was the real thing.
  • Iran is simultaneously the greatest threat to America ever in history ever and also so technologically backwards that two marines and a retired army lawyer could take the country overnight.
  • Allen262: Iran used Su-25s. You know GROUND ATTACK aircraft? This would be like the U.S. sending up A-10s to shoot down a aircraft.

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    Well the A-10 does have at least one air to air kill, it was a helicopter though

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  • If they could have opened a window and thrown a rock that drone would have been toast.
    Un..oh did I viloate a national security regulation!
  • We need a photoshop of a Predator inverted over an SU-25 with Iranian markings.
  • Allen262: Iran used Su-25s. You know GROUND ATTACK aircraft? This would be like the U.S. sending up A-10s to shoot down a aircraft.

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    DOesnt matter what they sent. If they cant hit a simple target like that with guns, then there isnt much hope for them. The fact that it was ground attack aircraft is even worse, they could have gotten much closer to that drone than they could any ground target.

    Also, A-10 have been shown effective against slow moving air to air targets like helicopters...which are as fast and more maneuverable than that drone.

    Bottom line is there is really no excuse for them not hitting the drone, even with the aircraft in question. Id venture a bet a properly experienced Russian or Chinese SU-25 pilot would have dropped that drone with ease. Id say the problem here is likely a combination of poor maintenance (lack of sight calibration) and poor pilot training and/or experience.

    But really, go ahead and tell us how Iran would destroy the US or NATO in a war...go on...
  • It's not that small of a target. I used to bullseye womprats from my T-16 back home.
  • Callous: No one said they have the capability to deliver it.


    Who credible said they had the ability to build one?
  • RoyBatty: We need a photoshop of a Predator inverted over an SU-25 with Iranian markings.


    Is this your idea of fun, Mav?
  • I flew Preds from 2005-2012, they certainly aren't 9G fighters, but they can turn in a tight radius. The Pred's slow speed, the SU-25's design, the Iranians' training and some possible maneuvers probably combined to keep the Predator from getting shot down. Against a trained pilot in an air-air fighter (F-15/16/Mig-29...etc.), we're toast.
  • While my grandma isn't very maneuverable she does have arms. I wonder how many Iranians she could take out...
  • crab66: This is kind of like trying to hit a fly with a sledgehammer. Not really surprised they missed.



    Lead Pilot: We've been ordered to fire on that UAV.

    Wingman: What, oh fark!!! No way dood! (turning down Foo Fighters' song playing in his cockpit)

    Lead Pilot: It's our arse if we don't. FIRE!

    (((BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM)))

    Lead Pilot: We missed.

    Wingman: Alah Ahkbar dood!!! (music volume turns back up)
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