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  • "SPD seized a bunch of my marijuana before I-502 passed. Can I have it back?"
    "No."


    I laughed. This was well done SPD.
  • Now that's how cops should do community outreeach.
  • December 6th seems like a really long ways away. What happens if I get caught with marijuana before then? Hold your breath.


    Comedy gold.......
  • OtherBrotherDarryl: "SPD seized a bunch of my marijuana before I-502 passed. Can I have it back?"
    "No."

    I laughed. This was well done SPD.


    Was coming here to post this. Also LOL'ed.
  • Bladel: OtherBrotherDarryl: "SPD seized a bunch of my marijuana before I-502 passed. Can I have it back?"
    "No."

    I laughed. This was well done SPD.

    Was coming here to post this. Also LOL'ed.


    me too, that was great.
  • That's a surprisingly useful page for a police department.

    Each case stands on its own, but the smell of pot alone will not be reason to search a vehicle.

    In Massachusetts, where under an ounce is also not a crime, case law says police can search if they smell fresh marijuana but not if they only smell burnt marijuana. It probably takes more than an ounce, a criminal amount, to create an odor of unburnt marijuana.
  • What happens if I get pulled over and I'm sober, but an officer or his K9 buddy smells the ounce of Super Skunk I've got in my trunk?

    Haha, super skunk. This was pretty clearly written by someone who understands weed at least. That's comedy.
  • It's a helluva first step.

    I even like the fact that they're changing the rules for Cops being allowed to smoke.

    Hopefully, WA and CO become models for more states, and the Feds little unsuccessful WAR ON DRUGS© ends.
  • ZAZ: That's a surprisingly useful page for a police department.

    Each case stands on its own, but the smell of pot alone will not be reason to search a vehicle.

    In Massachusetts, where under an ounce is also not a crime, case law says police can search if they smell fresh marijuana but not if they only smell burnt marijuana. It probably takes more than an ounce, a criminal amount, to create an odor of unburnt marijuana.


    Wait, so smelling freshly burned MJ (meaning you just smoked while operating the vehicle) isn't grounds for searching, but smelling unburned is a searchable offense?

    And it doesn't take nearly an ounce to make a car smell like skunk. I've had to buy a vaccuum container because the smell of an eighth from my guy stinks my whole car up.

    Crazy backward-ass laws

    /Great article though
  • FirstNationalBastard: I even like the fact that they're changing the rules for Cops being allowed to smoke.


    That would be a great time to be a cop when that happens. Imagine how much is sitting in the evidence room from confiscations or seizures. You wouldn't have to buy any for months.
  • OtherBrotherDarryl: "SPD seized a bunch of my marijuana before I-502 passed. Can I have it back?"
    "No."

    I laughed. This was well done SPD.


    that was the only humor I saw in here, but I think it was serious. Lots of headline failures today
  • dr_blasto: Now that's how cops should do community outreeach.


    Indeed.

    ZAZ: In Massachusetts, where under an ounce is also not a crime, case law says police can search if they smell fresh marijuana but not if they only smell burnt marijuana. It probably takes more than an ounce, a criminal amount, to create an odor of unburnt marijuana.


    Nah. I'm no pot smoker, but a friend of mine was adamant in giving me two cookies on the way out of his apt a few months ago, sealed in a ziploc sandwich bag. I'd completely forgotten they were there the next morning, but the smell of my bag was absolutely horrendous, and the car smelled awful. I doubt the two cookies weighed more than an ounce in their entirety - no way they could have held an ounce of actual pot.
  • ZAZ: That's a surprisingly useful page for a police department.

    Each case stands on its own, but the smell of pot alone will not be reason to search a vehicle.

    In Massachusetts, where under an ounce is also not a crime, case law says police can search if they smell fresh marijuana but not if they only smell burnt marijuana. It probably takes more than an ounce, a criminal amount, to create an odor of unburnt marijuana.


    I actually wrote a motion over the summer involving whether or not the scent of raw marijuana grants probable cause.

    IMHO, no.
  • The Lord of the Rings clip was pretty priceless too.
  • scottydoesntknow: ZAZ: That's a surprisingly useful page for a police department.

    Each case stands on its own, but the smell of pot alone will not be reason to search a vehicle.

    In Massachusetts, where under an ounce is also not a crime, case law says police can search if they smell fresh marijuana but not if they only smell burnt marijuana. It probably takes more than an ounce, a criminal amount, to create an odor of unburnt marijuana.

    Wait, so smelling freshly burned MJ (meaning you just smoked while operating the vehicle) isn't grounds for searching, but smelling unburned is a searchable offense?

    And it doesn't take nearly an ounce to make a car smell like skunk. I've had to buy a vaccuum container because the smell of an eighth from my guy stinks my whole car up.

    Crazy backward-ass laws

    /Great article though


    you don't have to have just burned it.. Marijuana smell sticks a lot longer than cigarette smell.. So non smokers can definitely tell you've been smoking in the last day or so unless you've showered and changed clothes.
  • Rincewind53: ZAZ: That's a surprisingly useful page for a police department.

    Each case stands on its own, but the smell of pot alone will not be reason to search a vehicle.

    In Massachusetts, where under an ounce is also not a crime, case law says police can search if they smell fresh marijuana but not if they only smell burnt marijuana. It probably takes more than an ounce, a criminal amount, to create an odor of unburnt marijuana.

    I actually wrote a motion over the summer involving whether or not the scent of raw marijuana grants probable cause.

    IMHO, no.


    Did you win? Because depending on some other factors, at least around here, you'd be wrong.
  • ekdikeo4: Marijuana smell sticks a lot longer than cigarette smell..


    Please tell me you're not serious....
  • Actual Farking: Did you win? Because depending on some other factors, at least around here, you'd be wrong.


    Sorry, I should have clarified, the actual legal question was whether the scent of raw marijuana in a vehicle granted probable cause to arrest a passenger.

    We lost the motion because the State made it an issue of "scent of marijuana plus passenger fidgeting" and the judge didn't want to fight them.
  • scottydoesntknow

    We don't have a law banning smoking while driving or any marijuana equivalent of open container laws. It's illegal to drive "under the influence... of marijuana" (whatever that means). The state appeals court ruled that the combination of bad driving, a strong odor of burnt marijuana, and nervous behavior raised a suspicion of driving under the influence justifying further investigation. 81 Mass. App. Ct. 306 (2012). But without aggravating circumstances police would have had to let the car go.

    Court cases often involve vehicles with passengers so it's unclear who smoked.
  • OtherBrotherDarryl: "SPD seized a bunch of my marijuana before I-502 passed. Can I have it back?"
    "No."

    I laughed. This was well done SPD.


    That is exactly what I came to say.
  • ZAZ: Here's the story about raw marijuana smell in Massachusetts: http://www.enterprisenews.com/topstori es/x1062475220/Search-ruled-imp r oper-in-Brockton-heroin-case.


    That's just crazy. If I were a drug runner I'd ride around with 27 grams all the time.

    Step 1: get pulled over
    Step 2: cop smells "raw" marijuana and assumes it's over an ounce (since obviously weed only smells when it's more than an ounce)
    Step 3: Cops search car and find MJ + whatever other drug
    Step 4: Have all evidence thrown out because there wasn't enough probable cause since they were riding with less than an ounce (28 grams).
  • I still don't understand why they can't just arrest you under Federal possession laws instead.
  • fnordfocus: I still don't understand why they can't just arrest you under Federal possession laws instead.


    Because the feds don't pay the city/state cops salary. And the last thing precincts want to deal with is wrongful arrests under state law. Every single one would be thrown out and a waste of taxpayer time and money. If a DEA or federal agent wants to be a dick, they can still arrest and prosecute you in a federal courthouse, but there's nothing to stop jury nullification if it does happen.
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