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  • College athletes in Washington and Colorado may want to refrain from the use of marijuana even after both states became the first in the nation to legalize recreational use of the drug.

    Marijuana, which remains illegal under federal law, is still a banned substance by the NCAA, which makes it off-limits for players.


    Because this somehow stopped them before?
  • Jesus Christ I didn't know it was going to be that big. WTF. SORRY!
    /Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa!
  • Also, lets see what happens when the fine people of CO and WA find out that employers are likely to still prohibit drug use in their employees
  • You'd have to be high to consider the teams in Colorado and Washington sports teams.
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  • Teiritzamna: Also, lets see what happens when the fine people of CO and WA find out that employers are likely to still prohibit drug use in their employees


    I never understood something: employers dont care if you go home and drink a 5th of vodka as long as you dont show up to work drunk....why would they care if someone smokes an entire dimebag every night, as long as they dont show up to work high?

    /doesnt smoke
    //personal choice and freedom ftw
  • StoPPeRmobile: Midol?


    And tobacco. Had no idea.
  • Because weed is somehow a performance enhancing drug?
  • I do actually wonder what the rammifications of this law passage will be in regards to drug testing in various job fields. Say employee X lives in Nevada and legally puffs marijuana while visiting Washington. Could they be fired/held legally accountable in in their native state? The lawyers must be licking their lips with the legal firestorm this passage will incite.
  • Teiritzamna: Also, lets see what happens when the fine people of CO and WA find out that employers are likely to still prohibit drug use in their employees


    except employers won't do random drug checks unless you have a job like a cop officer or an airline pilot where you put the lives of others in danger cause your not gay (straight) enough
  • cftc: Because weed is somehow a performance enhancing drug?


    if it was a performance ENHACNING drug like caffeine, i'm pretty sure they'd alllow it. cause the goal here is to WIN.

    winners don't use drugs. like weed. cause it slows u down. and in basketball winning is everything
  • Jon iz teh kewl: Teiritzamna: Also, lets see what happens when the fine people of CO and WA find out that employers are likely to still prohibit drug use in their employees

    except employers won't do random drug checks unless you have a job like a cop officer or an airline pilot where you put the lives of others in danger cause your not gay (straight) enough


    A janitor has never been drug tested.
  • Am I supposed to be shocked that it might not be ok for a surgeon to toke up as he walks through the door for your appendectomy too?
  • The more you eat the more you fart: Teiritzamna: Also, lets see what happens when the fine people of CO and WA find out that employers are likely to still prohibit drug use in their employees

    I never understood something: employers dont care if you go home and drink a 5th of vodka as long as you dont show up to work drunk....why would they care if someone smokes an entire dimebag every night, as long as they dont show up to work high?

    /doesnt smoke
    //personal choice and freedom ftw


    Not really supporting the practice, but dont forget that the employer has personal choice (to decide if they care you use drugs) and freedom (to fire/not hire you for it).
  • Man I haven't smoked in years. I start a new job in January and have a drug test next month. Last night I had a dream that I smoked out of a pipe made of cinnamon bread. I was freaking out in my dream about the drug test shortly after, because apparently they moved the drug test up to the next day.

    /gotta love dreams
    //freaking dreams
  • Teiritzamna: The more you eat the more you fart: Teiritzamna: Also, lets see what happens when the fine people of CO and WA find out that employers are likely to still prohibit drug use in their employees

    I never understood something: employers dont care if you go home and drink a 5th of vodka as long as you dont show up to work drunk....why would they care if someone smokes an entire dimebag every night, as long as they dont show up to work high?

    /doesnt smoke
    //personal choice and freedom ftw

    Not really supporting the practice, but dont forget that the employer has personal choice (to decide if they care you use drugs) and freedom (to fire/not hire you for it).


    ... I came in to make this point exactly. I'm all for lax or non-existent drug laws, but at the same time, just because it could be legal doesn't mean your usage is without other repercussion. Drug and liquor users are not members of a protected minority, so it's legal for an employer to make hiring decisions based on these habits. If you can't put off drugs for a month to clean out your system in order to get a job that improves your life, that's a pretty good indicator where your priorities lie. No problem finding work though, there's plenty of top-flight jobs in the housekeeping or food service industry.

    Also, employers by-and-large don't care about drug tests. They care about reliability or output. If you are a good worker or you produce high quality/on-time product, most of them could care less. The people who are are those with a liability: contracting companies, insurers, and so on. Many insurance companies provide a pretty steep discount if employees are made to take drug tests. The only reason these guys don't test for liquor is because we metabolize it in under 24 hours, usually less than 12. They would if they could though.

    Of course, if you're an entirely replaceable cog; warehouse worker, shelf stocker, etc, drug tests make sense for an employer. They just need a warm body who will work long enough to make a return on the investment by the company in terms of lost wages and other expenses during the training period; usually 3-4k. Against that, a 60$ drug test is peanuts, and half the time, they make the candidate pay anyway.
  • FTFA: Several over-the-counter items such as Muscle Milk, Sudafed, Midol, Airborne and some flavors of Vitamin Water are banned by the NCAA.

    OK, I had no idea any of these were banned by the NCAA. Researching, I've found so far:

    - Muscle Milk: banned by the NCAA because it contains IGF-1 (insulin growth hormone 1) precursors. It's a tiny amount but it still counts as "hormone growth"
    - Sudafed: Pseudoephedrine
    - Midol: The caffeine (about a half a cup of coffee's worth...REALLY?!?). I read somewhere that you have to drink like 12 cups of coffee to reach the NCAA limit. That could be a total ass pull though.
    - Airborne: I have no idea what this product is
    - Vitamin Water: Two flavors, "Energy" and "Rescue," contain ingredients found on the NCAA's drug-testing list of banned substances. Those flavors both contain caffeine, and the "Energy" flavor also contains guarana seed extract. An additional four flavors contain ingredients that are characterized as impermissible under NCAA extra benefit rules: "Power-C," "B-Relaxed" and "Balance" each contain either taurine, L-theanine or glucosamine, and "Vital-t" contains chemicals found in rooibos tea extract. Students can purchase these flavors on their own, but their impermissible status means that athletic programs cannot provide them as nutritional supplements. The remaining eight VitaminWater flavors contain no banned or impermissible substances.

    Although I also found this:
    The NCAA today released a statement refuting claims made in an AdAge.com piece about Vitaminwater containing banned substances. The statement said that the item "incorrectly states that student-athletes should not drink six of Vitaminwater's varieties or they might test positive for banned substances. In fact, normal daily consumption of any of the 13 Vitaminwater varieties will not place a student-athlete at risk for testing positive for banned substances" (NCAA).
  • If you think the legalization of marijuana means that you no longer have to abide by your employers rules then you deserve a big fat bong hit followed by unemployment.
  • Teiritzamna: The more you eat the more you fart: Teiritzamna: Also, lets see what happens when the fine people of CO and WA find out that employers are likely to still prohibit drug use in their employees

    I never understood something: employers dont care if you go home and drink a 5th of vodka as long as you dont show up to work drunk....why would they care if someone smokes an entire dimebag every night, as long as they dont show up to work high?

    /doesnt smoke
    //personal choice and freedom ftw

    Not really supporting the practice, but dont forget that the employer has personal choice (to decide if they care you use drugs) and freedom (to fire/not hire you for it).


    I agree, but when was the last time an employer fired someone because they found out they had a glass of wine with dinner last night.
  • Colorado toker here. There are two things I've noticed from this legalization law passing. Everyone I know outside of Colorado is much more fascinated by the law. Inside of Colorado the response is more of a shoulder-shrugging, "I though pot was already legal?"

    The second thing that's happened after the vote, and this is unfiltered schadenfreude, is the social conservatives are baffled by it. They can't fathom how "DRUGS" got made legal. They inevitably connect the dots to the negro-communist president and America going down the liberal toilet.Their political movement is over, and they know it. Legal weed only salts their wounded pride.

    The NCAA will make a ruckus out of marijuana for a a few more years, but then it will disappear. Most employers will give up testing for marijuana as well. Think of all the people from the East Coast who live in states with draconian drug laws. They come out to Colorado for a ski trip, toke a little herb legally, then go back to their job in sh*thole South Carolina and test positive for THC. The wrongful termination lawsuits are going to be epic.
  • REO-Weedwagon: The wrongful termination lawsuits are going to be epic.


    Employers can decide not to hire you based on the levels of nicotine in your blood.


    But if you don;t think people will be fired due to THC in their bloodstream because lol pot is legal lol by all means smoke to your little hearts content....in this economy...... where the supply of labor is greater then the demand.
  • Well, considering they don't really have a test which can accurately discern whether I am high right now or was high last night, I think this is going to cause many many different issues.

    (if such a test exists and is simple and fast to perform, like in a traffic stop, I'd like to know about it).
  • quietwalker: I came in to make this point exactly. I'm all for lax or non-existent drug laws, but at the same time, just because it could be legal doesn't mean your usage is without other repercussion. Drug and liquor users are not members of a protected minority, so it's legal for an employer to make hiring decisions based on these habits.




    So, if my employer had a thing against birth control (legal, right?) and could test me to see if I was using it, could they fire me for it if they found it in my system?
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