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  • Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.
  • knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.


    I'm interested. The range seems closer to 275, which should cover most days. $60k is about the same as a BMW, except for the "never buy gas again" bit.
  • knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.


    If you'd RTFA, you would have noticed that their new Supercharger stations give the cars an extra 150 miles after 30 minutes of charging.

    The price will go down after infrastructure and production start ramping up. You think Joe Sixpack was driving the first production models of gasoline-powered cars?
  • knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.


    In the last year, that wouldn't have been a problem for me, even when I was running in circles for work and various errands. And 60k is competitive with a BMW 5, lexus, or merc - all nice cars, but hardly exotics. Yes, a little out of my range, but another decent year in the market, who knows?

    I don't see them becoming the replacement for the one-car minivan-owning family (if one exists anywhere in the US anymore), but they've gone from being a wildly exotic plaything of millionaires, to being a "maybe I'll take a look at it" alternative.
  • knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.


    Who drives more than 200 miles in a day on average?

    And the few times a year someone does need to drive further, then just Priceline a rental car for a few days (~$12 a day usually). Or you know, use the second vehicle that the people who can drop $60K on a car usually have. If I was in the market for a car in that price range, I'd buy one.
  • knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.


    There aren't too many days when that range would pose a problem for me. It is kinda expensive, sure, but it's a newish technology and in a 'luxury' model.
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  • Ingenuity would be making one of these for the price of a standard car. If costs aren't a factor, you can build damn near anything.
  • Mrbogey: Ingenuity would be making one of these for the price of a standard car. If costs aren't a factor, you can build damn near anything.


    And yet the major car companies and all their years and billions in research gave us...the Chevy Volt
  • knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day?


    A lot of people, actually. Now, obviously this is still a niche product. I don't know about you, but I live in an apartment complex so there's no convenient way for me to charge an electric car in the parking lot. So right away the bulk of your market is going to be people with a home/garage. But considering the price tag, most people in the market for a car like this probably already own their own home.

    But if I had the means I'd definitely snap one of these up. Slap some solar panels on the roof of the garage and a small battery array... For most people, it would save them a couple/few hundred dollars a month. Not really enough to recoop your costs on everything, but still pretty nice. Maybe even enough to take a good sized bite out of the monthly car payment...

    And as others have said, the electric car in general is still more or less in its infancy. I'll be interested to see where this leads the auto industry in 10 years.
  • The 'Car of the Year' awards are all slanted towards luxury models.

    You'll never see the Toyota Tercel or Honda Civic winning one. The basis for judgment is skewed towards high end models.
  • Is the Tesla the one that catches fire in a crash? Or is that the Fisker?
  • enry: And yet the major car companies and all their years and billions in research gave us...the Chevy Volt


    Well, and the Nissan Leaf, which goes further than the Volt, costs thousands less, and it's pure EV, no gas at all.
  • knbber2: Who wants a car that can only go about 200 miles and then has to recharge for most of the day? And the baseline is only $60K, what a bargain.


    $49K according to their website. And I doubt most people drive 200 or more miles a day. I probably do 60 with work and misc errands. I don't think they had cross-country road trips in mind when they came up with the idea. It's a shame they can't make them affordable enough that regular people could get one though.
  • AverageAmericanGuy: The 'Car of the Year' awards are all slanted towards luxury models.

    You'll never see the Toyota Tercel or Honda Civic winning one. The basis for judgment is skewed towards high end models.


    You're complaining that the better cars always get the award for best car? Maybe we could give your Tercel a participation ribbon. Would that make you feel better?
  • I heard that these cars will make you gay.
  • Honest Bender: AverageAmericanGuy: The 'Car of the Year' awards are all slanted towards luxury models.

    You'll never see the Toyota Tercel or Honda Civic winning one. The basis for judgment is skewed towards high end models.

    You're complaining that the better cars always get the award for best car? Maybe we could give your Tercel a participation ribbon. Would that make you feel better?


    What makes it better? If it dominates its class, should it be docked because it isn't a class higher?
  • All that's needed are standardized battery packs and you could 'fill up' faster than with an internal combustion engine by swapping out packs. They already do this in Spain or Israel or something.
  • AverageAmericanGuy: The 'Car of the Year' awards are all slanted towards luxury models.

    You'll never see the Toyota Tercel or Honda Civic winning one. The basis for judgment is skewed towards high end models.


    Actually, the civic won in 2006.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Tr end_Car_of_the_Year
  • For those talking about range issues, EVs are not at the stage where you can do a practical long-haul drive. They are for city commuting and smaller trips, nobody realistically drives 100-200 miles daily in a single go... You can go to work, use 80% of your range, charge there while you're not using the car, and in 2-3 hours your car is back at 100%.

    A guy just completed a trip from SF to LA in a day (400mi) in a BMW ActiveE that only gets 106mi of range on a good day. Practical? No. Feasible? Totally.
  • DSanchez: AverageAmericanGuy: The 'Car of the Year' awards are all slanted towards luxury models.

    You'll never see the Toyota Tercel or Honda Civic winning one. The basis for judgment is skewed towards high end models.

    Actually, the civic won in 2006.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Tr end_Car_of_the_Year


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  • I need to drive 500 miles a day and pull 5 tons of concrete on a trailer so these cars are stupid. This is even dumber than the subway. Can you get 5 tons of concrete on a subway? No. Because it is stupid. Who would ever use that?
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