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    "We fixed the glitch."
  • With the average line worker making $38 per hour - and 11/2 times that in overtime - many live paycheck to paycheck, Hurley said, meaning any delay in the hard-earned cash hits families hard.

    $76,000 a year before overtime and they're living paycheck to paycheck?
  • This happened when I was working at USPS during the Christmas rush. They offered 'unlimited overtime' to all Contractors. We had people literally sleeping in their cubes. One guy racked up 128 hours of OT in a 2 week period (he worked 208 hours total the in 2 weeks). He (finally) received a paycheck for $3,400 after HR went after him for submitting a fake timecard. His manager cleaned it up pretty quick, so the check was only 2 days late. Not bad for a cube monkey in a call center, eh?
  • Part of what I do at the small business where I work is payroll. I see time cards every week. 17 hours days are not the norm, but they are certainly seen, especially when a job has a rush order on it, or when on-site work is required. I can only imagine that a hurricane is a similar "one of those times" when no payroll department personnel would at all be shocked to see 17 hour days.
  • ArkAngel: With the average line worker making $38 per hour - and 11/2 times that in overtime - many live paycheck to paycheck, Hurley said, meaning any delay in the hard-earned cash hits families hard.

    $76,000 a year before overtime and they're living paycheck to paycheck?


    It isn't the income, it's the outgo. Poor folks have poor ways, and income level doesn't matter.
  • LOL, at least the computer knows there are only 16 hours in a day. Cant believe they actually tried pulling a fast one like that. Aren't there laws against taking advantage of companies like that by faking more time in a day then is even possible.. especially during an emergency?
  • "Be assured that we are making this pay correction process a top priority, and all affected employees will be made whole as soon as possible,"

    Shiat happens.
  • Oh man, does payroll software suck ass. Our company recently hired on with a system called "Kronos" and basically, it's like they let a semi-sentient AI take over for scheduling, previously done well by a very competent human being. They were even told, "this will not work for some of your employees, due to their scheduling constraints". They went with it anyway.
  • FTFA "It's not surprising that the company has trouble keeping the lights on when it can't even master a payroll system, said Dan Hurley, president of the Utility Workers Union of America Local 369

    Two problems with this comment. The first is that running a payroll system isn't a utility companies main business. I expect them to suck at it. And this is an extraordinary situation that the payroll system was not designed to deal with. The second is that this union rep is basically saying his own people suck at keeping the lights on.

    /never had a positive experience dealing with a union rep
  • ArkAngel: With the average line worker making $38 per hour - and 11/2 times that in overtime - many live paycheck to paycheck, Hurley said, meaning any delay in the hard-earned cash hits families hard.

    $76,000 a year before overtime and they're living paycheck to paycheck?


    Why do you hate America?
  • fuligin: Oh man, does payroll software suck ass. Our company recently hired on with a system called "Kronos" and basically, it's like they let a semi-sentient AI take over for scheduling, previously done well by a very competent human being. They were even told, "this will not work for some of your employees, due to their scheduling constraints". They went with it anyway.


    My wife's job uses Kronos as well... yeah they just "love" it.

    Another insanity: If they are desperately short they can call you in early for your shift and pay time and a half. If they are desperately short and no one wants to come in early they can NOT offer employees time and half to stay on after their shift because the payroll software cant figure out how to do that.
  • fuligin: Oh man, does payroll software suck ass. Our company recently hired on with a system called "Kronos" and basically, it's like they let a semi-sentient AI take over for scheduling, previously done well by a very competent human being. They were even told, "this will not work for some of your employees, due to their scheduling constraints". They went with it anyway.


    That's why we still do everything in-house. On an ANCIENT system. It's actually a slightly more modern AS-400 but it's emulating a System/36. We've tested a few suites out but nothing seems to fit, so we're still running and maintaining 2 decade old custom software that began its life two companies ago. Still storing dates in the NON-Y2K compliant 2 digit form.

    lol small business world
  • ArkAngel: $76,000 a year before overtime and they're living paycheck to paycheck?


    There's a comedian(?) who has a bit about how the average Joe will say he works hard and parties hard. What this means is that he puts in 40 at a job he doesn't like and then goes to Applebee's happy hour and orders a pitcher with a couple friends once a month. Then he goes on to say that that isn't work hard/party hard. Work hard/party hard is the guys who work for months straight on oil rigs doing outrageous hours and walk off the rig with $20-30,000 in their pockets and blow it all in a week. That's what work hard/party hard is.
  • HST's Dead Carcass: This happened when I was working at USPS during the Christmas rush. They offered 'unlimited overtime' to all Contractors. We had people literally sleeping in their cubes. One guy racked up 128 hours of OT in a 2 week period (he worked 208 hours total the in 2 weeks). He (finally) received a paycheck for $3,400 after HR went after him for submitting a fake timecard. His manager cleaned it up pretty quick, so the check was only 2 days late. Not bad for a cube monkey in a call center, eh?


    I'm failing to see a problem with this. The guy submitted a timecard that should of been double checked and the fact that his manager was able to fix it in a reasonable time period says to me the system worked.

    /I really doubt it would be HR - most likely accounting - their little brains can't deal with anomalies
  • I bet they're using SAP.

    HR software is literally written by monkeys, and the people who administer it are not much better.

    That union guy should calm the fark down. They have trouble keeping the lights on? oh gee, I dunno, maybe the farking hurricane had something to do with that
  • fuligin: Oh man, does payroll software suck ass. Our company recently hired on with a system called "Kronos" and basically, it's like they let a semi-sentient AI take over for scheduling, previously done well by a very competent human being. They were even told, "this will not work for some of your employees, due to their scheduling constraints". They went with it anyway.


    I see Kronos hasn't gotten any better. Do they still have the Java version checks that require a specific version (usually 2-3 years old) instead of looking for "at least version x"?
  • FYI - most payroll systems actually have a hard daily cutoff of 16 hours. It is there to block miskeying errors and brazen fraudsters.
  • Solution: make all payroll software developers, including execs, hourly workers.
  • gingerjet: FTFA "It's not surprising that the company has trouble keeping the lights on when it can't even master a payroll system, said Dan Hurley, president of the Utility Workers Union of America Local 369

    Two problems with this comment. The first is that running a payroll system isn't a utility companies main business. I expect them to suck at it. And this is an extraordinary situation that the payroll system was not designed to deal with. The second is that this union rep is basically saying his own people suck at keeping the lights on.

    /never had a positive experience dealing with a union rep


    God forbid highly-paid executives should be able to do something like pay their employees.

    They've GOT jobs, what more do they want?
  • Our local radio station had one of the out of state line workers call and complain that they wouldn't "let" him work 24 hrs a day until everything was fixed. Yeah, not only are you going to jeopardize yourself in one of the most dangerous professions in America, you're most likely going to cause a delay due to your gross misunderstanding of human capability. This was 2 days into it, and what truly miffed me was that the radio hosts agreed that it was stupid to not let him work. Not to mention the boat loads of money that worker would of made before he got workman's comp and sued his company for negligence or something.
  • ArkAngel: With the average line worker making $38 per hour - and 11/2 times that in overtime - many live paycheck to paycheck, Hurley said, meaning any delay in the hard-earned cash hits families hard.

    $76,000 a year before overtime and they're living paycheck to paycheck?


    Get back to me when you have calculated the average cost of living for the families, and have reviewed all financial records and burdens of same so you can make that specious statement.
  • Stupid. Unless the program is so high tech that there aren't 3 error checks in place for the person to use.

    At least the payroll company I work for has those checks. It's still dependent on our clients to report the time however.

    On the time clock side we get the print-outs from the time clock we have our clients use, those that use a time clock. Then we print out. If it's a time clock issue, the computer itself is making a clocking error.

    Conclusion

    1) it is a time clock issue

    2) It's a human being ordered not to pay some hours issue.
  • DingleberryMoose: ArkAngel: With the average line worker making $38 per hour - and 11/2 times that in overtime - many live paycheck to paycheck, Hurley said, meaning any delay in the hard-earned cash hits families hard.

    $76,000 a year before overtime and they're living paycheck to paycheck?

    It isn't the income, it's the outgo. Poor folks have poor ways, and income level doesn't matter.


    I feel like I would have no trouble living comfortably and well within my means with this kind of pay.
  • fuligin: Oh man, does payroll software suck ass. Our company recently hired on with a system called "Kronos" and basically, it's like they let a semi-sentient AI take over for scheduling, previously done well by a very competent human being. They were even told, "this will not work for some of your employees, due to their scheduling constraints". They went with it anyway.


    Kronos is the farking devil. The reporting system is attrocious. I get more errors from that thing in any given week than I have seen come from my entire web surfing career at home.
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