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  • ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

    Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.
  • Is it considered a scam if they have willing participants?
  • BarkingUnicorn: ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

    Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.


    Yeah, they get a defense either way, but only one way means the church has to pay for it.
  • Lsherm: BarkingUnicorn: ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

    Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.

    Yeah, they get a defense either way, but only one way means the church has to pay for it.


    Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.

    Meanwhile, the monasteries rake in tons of cash from well-meaning but gullible Catholics.
  • It's one thing to be religious and believe...whatever but how do you people actually give money to the Catholic Church?
  • Benevolent Misanthrope: Lsherm: BarkingUnicorn: ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

    Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.

    Yeah, they get a defense either way, but only one way means the church has to pay for it.

    Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.

    Meanwhile, the monasteries rake in tons of cash from well-meaning but gullible Catholics.


    Monasteries are signing up women now?
  • Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: Lsherm: BarkingUnicorn: ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

    Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.

    Yeah, they get a defense either way, but only one way means the church has to pay for it.

    Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.

    Meanwhile, the monasteries rake in tons of cash from well-meaning but gullible Catholics.

    Monasteries are signing up women now?


    Yes. Women's cloistered contemplative communities are calling themselves monasteries now. "Convent" is outdated. "Monk" is also a unisex term, at least among those in monasteries.
  • Benevolent Misanthrope: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: Lsherm: BarkingUnicorn: ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

    Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.

    Yeah, they get a defense either way, but only one way means the church has to pay for it.

    Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.

    Meanwhile, the monasteries rake in tons of cash from well-meaning but gullible Catholics.

    Monasteries are signing up women now?

    Yes. Women's cloistered contemplative communities are calling themselves monasteries now. "Convent" is outdated. "Monk" is also a unisex term, at least among those in monasteries.


    Huh, didn't know that. My aunt is a nun, but she still uses convent. However, she's also 82, so maybe it's a generational thing.
  • Best has had at least five court battles funded by the Christian Brothers dating back to 1996, including multiple trials on multiple counts of indecent assault and buggery

    Gotta love the English.
  • Mugato: It's one thing to be religious and believe...whatever but how do you people actually give money to the Catholic Church?


    three posts down.
    They rub your balls
    like this.
  • 100% unrepentant

    Catholics!

    See what I did there!
  • Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: Lsherm: Benevolent Misanthrope: Lsherm: BarkingUnicorn: ''We think it is better for the congregation to provide the funding, if a brother has no independent means, than for you, the public, to pay through Legal Aid.''

    Well, if those are the only two alternatives, I agree. Let the taxpayers off the hook if they were on it.

    Yeah, they get a defense either way, but only one way means the church has to pay for it.

    Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.

    Meanwhile, the monasteries rake in tons of cash from well-meaning but gullible Catholics.

    Monasteries are signing up women now?

    Yes. Women's cloistered contemplative communities are calling themselves monasteries now. "Convent" is outdated. "Monk" is also a unisex term, at least among those in monasteries.

    Huh, didn't know that. My aunt is a nun, but she still uses convent. However, she's also 82, so maybe it's a generational thing.


    Quite possibly. It's definitely a post-Vatican II thing, and IIRC very recent (by monastic standards, like 10 years or so). It could also be a matter of which order - I know the Trappistines do it, and other Benedictines I met... but come to think of it, I think I saw some Dominicans who still use "convent". Of course, some of them may also use "convent" with seculars, since that's the term used outside of the monastery. It's a complex set of social rules.
  • The reluctance of the Obama administration to go after these priests and put them away for a long time is saddening.

    How many more boys will need to be raped before our government takes steps to solve this issue?
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  • Mugato: It's one thing to be religious and believe...whatever but how do you people actually give money to the Catholic Church?


    The same way they think Pope Ratzi has any more authority on the mind and will of a deity than I do.
  • I'm looking forward to the day that I read about a priest being killed by an irate parent/sibling/parishioner/cop whoever. Perhaps a symbolic upside-down crucifixion.
  • Mugato: It's one thing to be religious and believe...whatever but how do you people actually give money to the Catholic Church?


    It's like paying taxes - some of it goes to good stuff, some of it bad. In the long run, I like to believe the majority of it goes to the good stuff.

    Also, Catholic churches (at least the ones I've been a member of) sometimes take up two collections in mass - one for the parish, which sends part of the funds to the Vatican, and another for a specific charitable order, which uses the money for charity. So if you have a beef with the church government you can avoid giving to it if you want to.
  • Farxist Marxist: an irate parent/sibling/parishioner/cop


    You'd be surprised how many of these authority figures are actually involved/close an eye in abuse of kids.
  • Catholic Church spent 500k in Minnesota to push an amendment to deprive a minority of their rights. And lost.

    /Catholic Church rarely makes safe bets
  • Farxist Marxist: I'm looking forward to the day that I read about a priest being killed by an irate parent/sibling/parishioner/cop whoever. Perhaps a symbolic upside-down crucifixion.


    Here you go:

    Link

    Not death, but a good ass-beating:

    Link

    Feel better? Is your sense of justice avenged? 

    And St. Peter was crucified upside-down. It's symbolic of a religious sacrifice, not a punishment.
  • AverageAmericanGuy: The reluctance of the Obama administration to go after these priests and put them away for a long time is saddening.

    How many more boys will need to be raped before our government takes steps to solve this issue?


    We should invade Australia? I wouldn't. Everything there wants to kill you.
  • Benevolent Misanthrope: Every nun and monk is on some form of dole. One of the first things I learned in the monastery. The moment you enter, you are signed up for medicaid, at the very least. Monasteries don't buy insurance, and the monks and nuns have no visible means of support. Taxpayers are on the hook every day for those leeches.


    I've also heard, from multiple sources, that Hasidic Jews are almost all on government assistance because they spend their time studying the Torah, Talmud, and other Jewish literature. And yet oddly enough, religious people taking advantage of the system to spend their time in religious activities is never discussed when the concept of "welfare reform" comes up.

    Very strange.
  • simplicimus: AverageAmericanGuy: The reluctance of the Obama administration to go after these priests and put them away for a long time is saddening.

    How many more boys will need to be raped before our government takes steps to solve this issue?

    We should invade Australia? I wouldn't. Everything there wants to kill you.


    Lucky for us, Americans have tons of stuff that can kill them right back.

    It will be an orgy of blood in the desert!

    /like Burning Man
    //but with more poisonous lizards
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