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  • If the trend continues, Iran is horked.
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  • Doesn't really bother me. Israel will have to exercise restraint with Iran if the Iranians have nuclear weapons. They have no incentive to do so now.

    A nuclear Iran will stabilize, not destabilize the region.
  • GAT_00: Doesn't really bother me. Israel will have to exercise restraint with Iran if the Iranians have nuclear weapons. They have no incentive to do so now.

    A nuclear Iran will stabilize, not destabilize the region.


    You're assuming that people are as rational as you are.

    You are assuming that are feeling powerless wont drive countries to desperate measures.
  • Darth_Lukecash: GAT_00: Doesn't really bother me. Israel will have to exercise restraint with Iran if the Iranians have nuclear weapons. They have no incentive to do so now.

    A nuclear Iran will stabilize, not destabilize the region.

    You're assuming that people are as rational as you are.

    You are assuming that are feeling powerless wont drive countries to desperate measures.


    Israel can't threaten to bomb Iran any time they want if they know they can get nuked back. The ME is unstable because Israel can dictate to others with the threat of nuclear annihilation backing it up. A counter force to return the threat of annihilation with annihilation means the initial threat isn't made. Stability.

    See also India and Pakistan, which have been fighting a whole lot less since they have been able to nuke each other.
  • b-b-b-but the NIE from years ago said they hadn't done squat!
  • Darth_Lukecash: GAT_00: Doesn't really bother me. Israel will have to exercise restraint with Iran if the Iranians have nuclear weapons. They have no incentive to do so now.

    A nuclear Iran will stabilize, not destabilize the region.

    You're assuming that people are as rational as you are.

    You are assuming that are feeling powerless wont drive countries to desperate measures.


    Countries tend to be pretty rational Even Hitler. He had chemical weapons and never used them.
  • Well that's not throwing gas on an already raging fire.

    Also some people cheering for Iran to get weapons. Just how retardly anti-Israel can one get?
  • It truly is the end of times.

    Well it was fun while it lasted. But seriously Iran isn't dumb and yes Israel will kill whomever it has to in order to keep existing.

    Sometimes I wonder if it were better if the Middle East wasn't around anymore. If people can't play nice then I believe nobody deserves claim to the land.
  • Armageddon it.

    /Seriously it's not looking pretty in the middle east lately
  • Screw it all. Blow the whole planet up. I don't want to live in a world without Twinkies.

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  • KawaiiNot: /Seriously it's not looking pretty in the middle east lately


    Oh come on it is really not that bad. Hamas has farked up, there is no way that Syria is getting involved, Hizbullah came out and literally said 'Nope, not doing anything about it'.

    Its really not that dire.
  • Tatsuma: Well that's not throwing gas on an already raging fire.

    Also some people cheering for Iran to get weapons. Just how retardly anti-Israel can one get?


    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: fark Israel.
  • me texan: If the trend continues, Iran is horked.
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    We must not allow a Twinkie gap!
  • ThatGuyFromTheInternet: I've said it before, and I'll say it again: fark Israel.


    Thank you for this eloquent and elaborate feedback, will make sure to take it into account in the future.
  • In 100% of all cases, nuclear weapons have brought stability, not war. Did the U.S and Soviets ever slug it out? How many times has Pakistan invaded India once they both had the bomb? Where are the wars in Europe, that their bombs should have brought? Why has China not used its weapons to reclaim the territory it has reckoned as lost?

    nuclear bombs are the most powerful force for peace in this world. To be pro-bomb is to be pro-humanity.

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  • Tatsuma:

    You seemed informed on regional politics (though from a specific POV). I have been looking for more info on the following trichotomy: 1) Kahmeni issued a Fatwah forbidding Iran from possessing nuclear weapons 2) Ahmamentalnutjob's braying about destruction of Israel 3) the relative influence and power of each on Iranian power and military ambitions. Can you help us folks dependent on American news to sort this out?
  • "'Til Armageddon, no Salam, no Shalom...."

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    "When the Man Comes Around"

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  • GAT_00: Darth_Lukecash: GAT_00: Doesn't really bother me. Israel will have to exercise restraint with Iran if the Iranians have nuclear weapons. They have no incentive to do so now.

    A nuclear Iran will stabilize, not destabilize the region.

    You're assuming that people are as rational as you are.

    You are assuming that are feeling powerless wont drive countries to desperate measures.

    Israel can't threaten to bomb Iran any time they want if they know they can get nuked back. The ME is unstable because Israel can dictate to others with the threat of nuclear annihilation backing it up. A counter force to return the threat of annihilation with annihilation means the initial threat isn't made. Stability.

    See also India and Pakistan, which have been fighting a whole lot less since they have been able to nuke each other.


    Uhh, No. The ME is unstable because the majority of its citizens are uneducated farkwits who are ruled by tyrannical leaders. They are the equivalent of Catholic congregations in the 14th century.

    The problem is, this is no longer the 14th century, and their leaders have the ability to coerce these poor a-holes into giving up their lives, and are able to inflict massive damage in the process.
  • The salami photo didn't upload; do I get at least one internets?
  • Holocaust Agnostic: In 100% of all cases, nuclear weapons have brought stability, not war.


    I know you're being fatuous, but so far that actually has been arguably true so far (if you start the set of "all cases" as "after 1945"). Of course, that's ignoring the fact we're only talking about a very short period of time (67 years).
  • During that so called press conference where the one so called reporter stopped just shot of giving Obama a blow job, I wish one reporter would have had the balles to ask 0bama what would be the United States response when Egypt joins Hamas in a war against Israel?
  • ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Tatsuma: Well that's not throwing gas on an already raging fire.

    Also some people cheering for Iran to get weapons. Just how retardly anti-Israel can one get?

    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: fark Israel.


    The funny part is he doesn't realize that making another nuclear power for balance would make Israel safer. Wars are less common when there is a power balance.

    But then, that would involve something besides Israel Uber Alles, so that's his problem with it.
  • PC LOAD LETTER: 1) Kahmeni issued a Fatwah forbidding Iran from possessing nuclear weapons


    Actually, that fatwa most likely does not exist. No one has seen it, heard its text, or posted a copy of it anywhere.

    PC LOAD LETTER: 2) Ahmamentalnutjob's braying about destruction of Israel


    We take it seriously. He would not be saying these things if Khameini did not approve of it. Also they have done many many things in the past that shows that they are serious, from support to terrorist groups to, much recently, using Hizbullah as a launch pad to send a drone inside Israeli airspace.

    PC LOAD LETTER: 3) the relative influence and power of each on Iranian power and military ambitions.


    Fatwa, which most likely doesn't exist, has no impact, and Ahmadinejad is the tool of the Powers That Be in Iran, and therefore the public face of their ambitions.
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