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  • Good for you employees.
    /Will not be doing any Christmas shopping at Walmart anyway
  • People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...
  • tbhouston: People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...


    Everyone who works at Walmart really must love their job then, right?
  • Bontesla: tbhouston: People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...

    Everyone who works at Walmart really must love their job then, right?


    Obviously. Why else would they continue working there, instead of taking the first stable mucking job that came available?
  • Friskya: Bontesla: tbhouston: People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...

    Everyone who works at Walmart really must love their job then, right?

    Obviously. Why else would they continue working there, instead of taking the first stable mucking job that came available?


    Obviously. Great, stable, high paying jobs for those qualified to work at Walmart are raining like a plague upon this nation.
  • tbhouston: People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...


    Yeah, because people who work at Walmart have all these options just laid out in front of them.
  • vartian: tbhouston: People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...

    Yeah, because people who work at Walmart have all these options just laid out in front of them.


    Didn't you realize that they PICKED Walmart?
  • And in other news, WalMart is now hiring.
  • basemetal: And in other news, WalMart is now hiring.


    wal-mart's problem is that they've started to realize that they cannot actually fire their entire work force without it affecting their bottom line. turns out that even the min wage slaves play an important part in the business cycle.
  • Awesome. Go for it, workers!
  • tbhouston: People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...


    As someone who studies labor markets, I can say that there really aren't that many options for "unskilled" or "low-skilled" jobs in this economy. Retailers have largely followed Wal-mart's lead and have increasingly relied on low-wage, part-time work that offers next to zero benefits. Simply telling workers, "oh well it's your fault you don't have a better job" is lazy and not grounded in empirical reality.
  • tbhouston: People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...


    Have you ever been to some towns in flyover country? You know, the ones where there used to be 20 - 30 businesses downtown, and now there's a Wal-Mart on the edge of the bunch of shuttered buildings that used to be downtown? Where do you think the folks that worked in those businesses went? Where else would they go?

    Wal-Mart is flat-out exploitative, and if you think otherwise, you're dreaming.
  • coco ebert:

    Simply telling workers, "oh well it's your fault you don't have a better job" is lazy and not grounded in empirical reality.


    But it IS funny
  • Bontesla: Good for you employees.
    /Will not be doing any Christmas shopping at Walmart anyway


    I had to go there recently because it was the only store open that late, and I desperately needed something.

    I'm not trying to pull a hipster dislike of the store; I genuinely despise going there and feel like I'm at the cusp of a heart attack each minute I'm there. Crotchfruit everywhere, muffin-tops, women beating their children...

    Anyway, I'm proud of the workers for even planning a walk-out, but at the same time, they have to work or starve. Wal-Mart knows they have this leverage, unless all the employees planning to walk out have spouses that can support them.
  • So, corporations upper management can stand united when it comes to deciding employee benefits, but employees can't stand united to decide employee benefits?
  • Weaver95: basemetal: And in other news, WalMart is now hiring.

    wal-mart's problem is that they've started to realize that they cannot actually fire their entire work force without it affecting their bottom line. turns out that even the min wage slaves play an important part in the business cycle.


    Working for WalMart, other than management (and even them sometimes), is not rocket science, and it doesn't take that long to get an employee up to speed.
  • dickfreckle: Bontesla: Good for you employees.
    /Will not be doing any Christmas shopping at Walmart anyway

    I had to go there recently because it was the only store open that late, and I desperately needed something.

    I'm not trying to pull a hipster dislike of the store; I genuinely despise going there and feel like I'm at the cusp of a heart attack each minute I'm there. Crotchfruit everywhere, muffin-tops, women beating their children...

    Anyway, I'm proud of the workers for even planning a walk-out, but at the same time, they have to work or starve. Wal-Mart knows they have this leverage, unless all the employees planning to walk out have spouses that can support them.


    Did you go to that monstrosity they erected by the St. Thomas neighborhood?
  • whistleridge: tbhouston: People choose to work at Walmart for what ever reason..no one is forcing them...

    Have you ever been to some towns in flyover country? You know, the ones where there used to be 20 - 30 businesses downtown, and now there's a Wal-Mart on the edge of the bunch of shuttered buildings that used to be downtown? Where do you think the folks that worked in those businesses went? Where else would they go?

    Wal-Mart is flat-out exploitative, and if you think otherwise, you're dreaming.


    We had a huge debate here in New Orleans regarding Wal-Mart. The point of contention was that it would put the mom 'n pops up and down Magazine St. out of business. Thing is, that didn't actually happen. However, the level of service is far higher, which is why we all still shop at those places. I don't care that my trip will cost an extra $5 or so. The peace of mind is worth paying for. No, I am not even close to wealthy.

    I love my local ACE store, even though they're a chain. It doesn't matter if a hammer is $2 more than the Chinese one at Wal-Mart...they take the time to help me, and all the elderly black ladies call me "dawlin.'" Always leave the store with a smile on my face, as opposed to risking a homicide charge whenever I go to Wal-Mart. You can't put a price on an intangible like that.
  • One Bad Apple: coco ebert:

    Simply telling workers, "oh well it's your fault you don't have a better job" is lazy and not grounded in empirical reality.

    But it IS funny


    Really? I don't say that out of self-righteousness, because sometimes funny is just funny, I just am not getting the humor angle to it.
  • coco ebert: Simply telling workers, "oh well it's your fault you don't have a better job" is lazy and not grounded in empirical reality.


    But it is incredibly Libertarian.
  • coco ebert: Did you go to that monstrosity they erected by the St. Thomas neighborhood?


    Yup. It's widely regarded as the worst Wal-Mart in the world.

    And it is.

    But since Katrina, everything past Canal St. closes (there used to be plenty of 24 hour stores, but oh well). I almost went to that Rouse's in the CBD we talked about a month or so ago, but the Wally World was closer. I do live next to a gas station that's open all night, but they don't sell beer. They do sell pipes and screens, but no beer.

    Point is, I can walk to Wal-Mart in about 15 minutes (think I told you I recently moved to the Irish Channel). I ride a motorcycle, so driving to Rouse's is out of the question after the first beer, which of course is when I want more.

    Who in New Orleans doesn't sell beer?
  • basemetal: Weaver95: basemetal: And in other news, WalMart is now hiring.

    wal-mart's problem is that they've started to realize that they cannot actually fire their entire work force without it affecting their bottom line. turns out that even the min wage slaves play an important part in the business cycle.

    Working for WalMart, other than management (and even them sometimes), is not rocket science, and it doesn't take that long to get an employee up to speed.


    it costs more than most people realize. not merely in terms of training but in terms of lost revenue, lost consumer confidence and time.
  • I haven't bought anything on black friday in 4 or 5 years. WHO CARES!
  • As the greatest philosopher, politician, businessman, and video game player to ever walk this Earth, you should take me seriously when I say that Wal-Mart is the highest form of art to ever exist.
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