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  • $o the Why ha$en't thi$ taken the Country by $torm?

    Sorry but most doctors are greedier A$$holes than litigation lawyers
  • They do that here in Canada, too. I can jump to the front of any waiting list just by ponying up a little extra dough.

    Some people... poor people... have a problem with this; to me, it's just capitalism in action.
  • WhippingBoy: They do that here in Canada, too. I can jump to the front of any waiting list just by ponying up a little extra dough.

    Some people... poor people... have a problem with this; to me, it's just capitalism in action.


    Let them eat cake, Sir.
  • The problem with averages is that it hides the low point.
  • Because medical care was always regulated and we have zero history of unregulated medical care in this country as a measure of how this would play out on a larger scale, most notably towards the poor and elderly. Right.
  • Rich people should harvest the organs of the poor, in order to create jobs.
  • Azlefty: $o the Why ha$en't thi$ taken the Country by $torm?

    Sorry but most doctors are greedier A$$holes than litigation lawyers


    A while back "we" deregulated dentist pricing. I came to the surprise of no one but the politicians that prices either stayed where they were or sky-rocketed. That free market experiment has been cancelled.

    /You do not expect people to do the honourable thing
    //Especially not when talking money
  • Yeah, what happens if you need the surgery but don't have the cash (either from your own pocket or through insurance)?
  • Sounds great until greed kicks in, and then puts patients into the situation you see around the country currently.
  • Bonzo_1116: Yeah, what happens if you need the surgery but don't have the cash (either from your own pocket or through insurance)?


    Then you are poor and get your organs harvested. DERP
  • I say good for them. I haven't been to this location yet, but I will the next time I end up needing something done.
  • imgod2u: The problem with averages is that it hides the low point.


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  • the company defended its outrageous bills on the grounds that it needs a way to cover losses on services offered free.

    Same problem with the lifeguard who asked to ride in the ambulance with the kid he saved and got gouged. The pre-Obama health care system was already largely Marxist, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
  • "One reason our prices are so low," says Smith, "is that we don't have administrators running around in their four or five thousand dollar suits."


    It will never work. Those people are indispensible.
  • What some Doctors may look like
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    /Yes, the one on the right isn't the original
  • Open pricing would be a huge win for consumers. Just think of a travelocity-like site for commodity medical procedures and services. Show the prices for each provider along with a review. Sometimes I can find a way better airfare deal by traveling 90 minutes to the next closest city - would totally do the same for some types of medical services, but that's just me.
  • The most expensive item on their list is a Penile Prosthesis @ $15,425.00 

    I hope it comes with attachments.
  • "Before we begin your affordable vasectomy, please choose your method of pain management. for $50. We'll give you a bottle of vodka to drink, and a table leg to bite down on. For $15,000 we'll give you some nice narcotic pain killers so you don't feel a thing."
  • BronyMedic: WhippingBoy: They do that here in Canada, too. I can jump to the front of any waiting list just by ponying up a little extra dough.

    Some people... poor people... have a problem with this; to me, it's just capitalism in action.

    Let them eat cake, Sir.


    I like the idea of a nationalized healthcare system. I would not be willing to abuse it, though. And that would be one of the biggest problems here in the USA. I had to go to a doctor the other day because of flu/URI. Doc kept asking about insurance. I told him I was paying cash. He was very happy about that (cutting down on paperwork and such) and even gave me some extra attention. So things like that are ok. But when greed takes over the minds of the patients, and the doctors, then the system breaks.
    And that is why I hate everyone.
  • Um, yeah, that incoherent rant brought to you by TheraFLU. Powerful crap.
  • Next time I am hit by a bus I will carefully choose among competing emergency-care providers for the most cost-effective treatment.

    Thanks for the advice, Libertarians!!
  • UsikFark: The most expensive item on their list is a Penile Prosthesis @ $15,425.00 

    I hope it comes with attachments.


    Like a hair trigger...?
  • Outpatient ambulatory surgical centers are also pretty restricted in the level of surgery they can perform. You're not getting anything major done at a facility that can't respond with the resources of an acute care facility in case things go south on the table. I'm guessing that 80-90% of their business is colonoscopies and endoscopies, things that require only moderate sedation.

    The one thing that they had right is that the driver in the cost of healthcare is the absolutely obscene profits that major hospitals make. If you really want to make a difference in this trend, have providers go through rate setting commissions just like payers do.
  • crazytrain: Open pricing would be a huge win for consumers. Just think of a travelocity-like site for commodity medical procedures and services. Show the prices for each provider along with a review. Sometimes I can find a way better airfare deal by traveling 90 minutes to the next closest city - would totally do the same for some types of medical services, but that's just me.


    The problem is that most expensive medical services are usually in emergent or urgent care where you don't really have the luxury of shopping around.
    This idea works well for elective procedures - not so good for any sort of emergency care, trauma, or expensive chronic treatment such as chemotherapy where the costs will always exceed the means of any average person.
  • Um, hasn't it been at least half free market? It is in my county at least. Yet everyone runs to the State owned besides the privately owned, no matter how close one is to the privately owned. It's cheaper and it's at least triple the quality.
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