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  • But I thought 'zone A' on flood insurance maps meant 'a ok for storing trains'
  • Orange people problems....
  • What do they care? It's not their money, why should they give a shiat?
  • Uh oh. Someone's gonna get a memo!!!

    /A pink memo, hopefully.
  • Heads need to roll at NJT because of this.

    The fact that Christi hasn't been all over this implies to me that he is protecting someone in that organization.
  • As a NJ Transit guy on the North Jersey Coast Line who hasn't had train service since the Superstorm Sandy hit... I'm totally not getting a kick.... 

    /three hours at the Port Authority Bus station is the norm
  • I already thought everyone who works for that organization should be purged even before the storm, now I have to wonder if they should be prosecuted for criminal negligence.
  • Dumb is conservatism in action.
  • I have ridden NJ Transit my entire life. While it has many good qualities the decision making has always been awful.

    This news story comes as absolutely no surprise to anyone here in the Garden State.
  • I like the part about how the NJ Transit's sister railways had zero rail cars damaged, because they actually used their brains.
  • TFA: "James Weinstein, NJ Transit's executive director, said he did not expect the loss of equipment to have a significant effect on service in the coming weeks and months."


    If not having this equipment won't make a difference in either short-term or long-term service, then why did who spend hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer and transit rider money on that equipment??
  • The orange community frowns on this shenanigan.
  • They're government employees, so they'll be fine. Act of God, etc. You, taxpayer, will pick up the tab.
  • Tell 'em their pension is getting docked 10% of any damage caused by the storm. That'll get their attention.
  • s1ugg0: I have ridden NJ Transit my entire life. While it has many good qualities the decision making has always been awful.

    This news story comes as absolutely no surprise to anyone here in the Garden State.


    I'm a lifelong LIRR rider who also started riding NJT on a semi-regular basis recently. As much as I've biatched about LIRR, NJT is worse. At least on the LIRR my train tends to get in at the scheduled time on a consistent basis.

    But this...I mean, it's a farking swamp in that area! Water everywhere. And even if it's never happened before, I don't see how you take your chances if the forecast is saying that this time will be different. They do have other places to put the trains.
  • NJT screwed the pooch bigtime, here.

    Not only did they flood out a good chunk of equipment, a lot of it was *brand new* equipment.v As in, they just took delivery of it this year. Can you say "Voided warranty"?

    If you want to read sad, go to the NJT forum on railroad.net and read all the employees sticking up for NJT on there. Most of them argue "you don't work for a railroad, you don't know anything!!!111one!!. Apparently, that makes submerging 1/2 a billion dollars worth of new trains ok, in their eyes....
  • PsychoPhil:
    If you want to read sad, go to the NJT forum on railroad.net and read all the employees sticking up for NJT on there. Most of them argue "you don't work for a railroad, you don't know anything!!!111one!!. Apparently, that makes submerging 1/2 a billion dollars worth of new trains ok, in their eyes....


    Wait, are they trying to take a "too big to flood" defense? We know what we're doing, and if it turns out we don't, you have to fix it anyway at no cost to us.
  • I've sent an email to the board of directors at NJT asking for resignations.
  • They just wanted to get the trans washed off.

    And you are right about the railroad.net forums. Wow. There has to be some tracks that are out of the flood plain, right? Just park them there and set the emergency brakes or whatever trains have (wheel chocks?) . Bonus if you can have it on an east-west line so it isn't blown over.
  • I vass juss followink ze orderz!!!
  • TheGreatGazoo: They just wanted to get the trans washed off.

    And you are right about the railroad.net forums. Wow. There has to be some tracks that are out of the flood plain, right? Just park them there and set the emergency brakes or whatever trains have (wheel chocks?) . Bonus if you can have it on an east-west line so it isn't blown over.


    Yes, there were lots of places this stuff could have been stored.

    I love how NJT omitted pictures of all this stock sitting in a flooded yard when they put their little slide show up showing the impact of Sandy. Lots of sensational pictures of a boat on the tracks though...which probably took a half day with a front end loader to clear.

    I am beyond outraged at this. I pay $275 a month for crap service, and by next summer I expect another rise in ticket prices.
  • technofiend: PsychoPhil:
    If you want to read sad, go to the NJT forum on railroad.net and read all the employees sticking up for NJT on there. Most of them argue "you don't work for a railroad, you don't know anything!!!111one!!. Apparently, that makes submerging 1/2 a billion dollars worth of new trains ok, in their eyes....

    Wait, are they trying to take a "too big to flood" defense? We know what we're doing, and if it turns out we don't, you have to fix it anyway at no cost to us.


    I've been taking NJT trains for over 17 years. At $400 plus a month, I'm re-thinking.
  • railyard in question if anyone's curious..

    How could it have possibly flooded?
  • The Bestest: railyard in question if anyone's curious..

    How could it have possibly flooded?


    That looks like it would flood if someone left the sprinkler on for too long.
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