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  • How well did that work out for Kevin Mitnick?
  • FTA: Auernheimer' lawyer disagreed with the "prosecutors' interpretation of what constitutes unauthorized access to a computer under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act"

    Ummm yeah... unless AT&T hired him to do it....

    unauthorized; adj.
    1> not having any authority
    2> without official authorization

    /Perhaps the attorney needs to go back to school
  • Jukt Micronics is hiring.
  • You're not a genius, subby.
  • US government explained that the accused used an "account slurper" that was designed to match email addresses with "integrated circuit card identifiers" for iPad users, and which conducted a "brute force" attack to extract information about those users, who accessed the Internet through AT&T's network.

    Bullshiat. Any halfway competent server should eject you and log the IP after a half-dozen or so unsuccessful attempts. If they're talking about locally decrypting a short password, then that's something else.

    /waits for AT&T joke.
  • NutWrench: US government explained that the accused used an "account slurper" that was designed to match email addresses with "integrated circuit card identifiers" for iPad users, and which conducted a "brute force" attack to extract information about those users, who accessed the Internet through AT&T's network.

    Bullshiat. Any halfway competent server should eject you and log the IP after a half-dozen or so unsuccessful attempts. If they're talking about locally decrypting a short password, then that's something else.

    /waits for AT&T joke.


    Rethink Possible?
  • HindiDiscoMonster: FTA: Auernheimer' lawyer disagreed with the "prosecutors' interpretation of what constitutes unauthorized access to a computer under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act"

    Ummm yeah... unless AT&T hired him to do it....

    unauthorized; adj.
    1> not having any authority
    2> without official authorization

    /Perhaps the attorney needs to go back to school


    except the CFAA isn't written that clearly. Everyone knows he committed the act, the lawyer is trying to push an interpretation of the law that says his clients act isn't technically covered by it. All he has to do is get a judge to buy his version. It's what you do when your client is clearly guilty.
  • Digitalstrange: HindiDiscoMonster: FTA: Auernheimer' lawyer disagreed with the "prosecutors' interpretation of what constitutes unauthorized access to a computer under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act"

    Ummm yeah... unless AT&T hired him to do it....

    unauthorized; adj.
    1> not having any authority
    2> without official authorization

    /Perhaps the attorney needs to go back to school

    except the CFAA isn't written that clearly. Everyone knows he committed the act, the lawyer is trying to push an interpretation of the law that says his clients act isn't technically covered by it. All he has to do is get a judge to buy his version. It's what you do when your client is clearly guilty.


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  • Well, if you don't hire them to do your security, you deserve to get robbed again.
  • abhorrent1: Goatse Security? LMAO


    They found a hole in the back door.
  • NutWrench: accessed the Internet through AT&T's network.


    NutWrench: Any halfway competent server should eject you and log the IP after a half-dozen or so unsuccessful attempts


    Well?
  • wallywam1: You're not a genius, subby.


    Came to say this...
  • sonofslacker: How well did that work out for Kevin Mitnick?


    Worked for that Abignale guy.
  • The register has an article on it here:http://www.theregister.co.uk/201 2/11/21/ipad_hacker_conviction/

    "The case is been closely watched in the information security community because Auernheimer recovered the data from the AT&T website without bypassing any security controls."

    The article contains a link to a blog post where they build the argument that what was done is little different from trying a url and seeing where it goes:

    "But what are the limits of implicit authorization? Let's say you are reading a website that has "articleId=31337" at the end. You wonder what the next article is, so you go to the URL and change it "articleId=31338" and hit return. Have you "exceeded authorized access"? It's hard to say. If article "31337" is public, why not "31338"?

    But in our scenario, let's say that article "31338" is a press release that is not intended to be published until tomorrow announcing the quarterly corporate earnings. While the article itself is online, a link to it won't be posted to the home page until tomorrow, so not even Google spiders can find it. Because you've gotten early access, you can make a huge profit buying/selling stocks.

    Is it your fault for accessing the pre-posted financial results? Or their fault for making them accessible? What does the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act say on this matter?
    "

    I doubt the guy is as innocent as they claim but I equally suspect that ATT were lazy/stupid.
  • Why does ATT have apple emails
  • NutWrench: US government explained that the accused used an "account slurper" that was designed to match email addresses with "integrated circuit card identifiers" for iPad users, and which conducted a "brute force" attack to extract information about those users, who accessed the Internet through AT&T's network.

    Bullshiat. Any halfway competent server should eject you and log the IP after a half-dozen or so unsuccessful attempts. If they're talking about locally decrypting a short password, then that's something else.

    /waits for AT&T joke.


    I work in IT and review security logs for several hundred large and small businesses. The amount of companies(that should know better) that don't do this is staggering.

    /job security I guess
  • Proving the exploit works by grabbing a half dozen records is defensible. Publishing the exploit mechanism so anybody who is so inclined can try it for themselves is a jerky thing to do, but not unlawful.

    Enumerating the entire database was unnecessary and uncalled for, as was redistribution to Gawker.
  • ChicagoKev: Proving the exploit works by grabbing a half dozen records is defensible. Publishing the exploit mechanism so anybody who is so inclined can try it for themselves is a jerky thing to do, but not unlawful.

    Enumerating the entire database was unnecessary and uncalled for, as was redistribution to Gawker.


    Publishing the exploit mechanisim after informing the site is an important thing to do. Give the site time to fix the issue then release so that others can find out out the exploit and pathc thier own systems. Some will use the info for LULZ but you should work on the basis that just becuase you haven't read about it you aren't the first to find it.

    The data base should have just gone to ATT to prove that the exploit worked. Didn't need to go anywhere else.
  • FingerlessMittens: The data base should have just gone to ATT to prove that the exploit worked.


    It's all speculation either way, but these sort of flaws often go unaddressed -- even with the admins informing management daily -- until it bites them in the ass. Then it was the IT guy's fault the entire time.

    / The main difference between a 20-year-old IT guy and a 30-year-old IT guy is that the latter, if still employed, has learned to document everything
  • He didn't hack into shiat. AT&T made the info publicly available, and when he pointed it out, he got charge under a bullshiat and archaic computer law written in 1980.
  • HindiDiscoMonster: FTA: Auernheimer' lawyer disagreed with the "prosecutors' interpretation of what constitutes unauthorized access to a computer under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act"

    Ummm yeah... unless AT&T hired him to do it....

    unauthorized; adj.
    1> not having any authority
    2> without official authorization

    /Perhaps the attorney needs to go back to school


    Here's another attorney's explanation of this lame defense:

    "Auernheimer's bigger problem, and perhaps his best shot on appeal, is that the CFAA doesn't define at all what "access[ing] a computer without authorization" means. Was GoatSec "without authorization" to send guessed ICC-IDs to the login page of AT&T's server, which it made available openly on the Internet? An important fact in the case is that the GoatSec's slurper script never entered anything into the password field of the login page; it just collected the emails the page offered up to it. Who decides who is "without authorization"? The government? The website operator? How do you know the website operator deems you to be "without authorization"? The CFAA gives no answers."

    Link
  • Inside the tent pissing out

    You know the rest ...
  • Anyone here remember fuskering?

    This guy fuskered AT&T. That seems to be all he did.

    Do you think your use of fusker should send you to jail? If not, why not?
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    I believe that moustache and beard/goatee combination is known as a "prison pussy"... open wide, sweatheart!
  • LarryDan43: Jukt Micronics is hiring.


    Reference I was looking for.

    /They have a great website.
  • Ask Lulzsec how their new jobs are working out for them. Oh wait...
  • The stolen data was then provided to the website Gawker, which published an article refering to emails of well-known people, including ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and current Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel

    Ah Gawker. You are such a paragon of journalistic integrity.
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