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  • In the dude's defense, they don't get many hurricanes with storm surges up in NJ.

    If he done the same in, say, Florida, he wouldn't have had a track to stand on.
  • AirForceVet: In the dude's defense, they don't get many hurricanes with storm surges up in NJ.


    This. You could argue all of us in NJ were complacent. We've survived half a century with bigger storms that didn't even close to Sandy's destruction (last one w/a significant amount of damage was apparently in 1962). We know the area around the Raritan floods (Bound Brook, Somerset, Manville, some of New Brunswick, etc.) and we know Sea Girt floods (the sea wall's too low. If you spit too hard, that town floods). But I've lived on the Jersey Shore for over 35 years. I remember David (spawned tornadoes in South Jersey), Gloria (some flooding in the AC area & knocked out power there but no real damage), Hugo (lots of wind but no real damage), The Halloween Storm (the one the movie The Perfect Storm was based on. Sea Bright nearly washed away, Raritan flooded, Cape May got pounded--but for a "Storm of the Century", it didn't hit us as badly as we'd expected), Floyd (That one caused more damage than the Halloween Storm. Raritan overflowed again and flooded 5 towns. AC & Cape May took a LOT of water & wind damage), Irene (again the Raritan towns were the worst hit. Sporadic power outages around the state. But we had more damage & power outages from the snowstorm the week or 2 after Irene than Irene itself).

    Almost 4 decades of, "OMG, killer storm!", and each time the same areas are predictably affected. There was no reason to believe Sandy was going to be any different. Until it was.
  • brigid_fitch: AirForceVet: In the dude's defense, they don't get many hurricanes with storm surges up in NJ.

    This. You could argue all of us in NJ were complacent. We've survived half a century with bigger storms that didn't even close to Sandy's destruction (last one w/a significant amount of damage was apparently in 1962). We know the area around the Raritan floods (Bound Brook, Somerset, Manville, some of New Brunswick, etc.) and we know Sea Girt floods (the sea wall's too low. If you spit too hard, that town floods). But I've lived on the Jersey Shore for over 35 years. I remember David (spawned tornadoes in South Jersey), Gloria (some flooding in the AC area & knocked out power there but no real damage), Hugo (lots of wind but no real damage), The Halloween Storm (the one the movie The Perfect Storm was based on. Sea Bright nearly washed away, Raritan flooded, Cape May got pounded--but for a "Storm of the Century", it didn't hit us as badly as we'd expected), Floyd (That one caused more damage than the Halloween Storm. Raritan overflowed again and flooded 5 towns. AC & Cape May took a LOT of water & wind damage), Irene (again the Raritan towns were the worst hit. Sporadic power outages around the state. But we had more damage & power outages from the snowstorm the week or 2 after Irene than Irene itself).

    Almost 4 decades of, "OMG, killer storm!", and each time the same areas are predictably affected. There was no reason to believe Sandy was going to be any different. Until it was.


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  • A liberal shunning responsibility for his bad decisions? You don't say.
  • Wait - he's the Executive Director of NJ transit and one expects him to actually make a decision?

    Well..it nevah flooded before, whadda gonna do... oohhh!

    Typical GovCo, pay me big money, but I am not qualified to even do the basics of my job
  • "They made a decision, and as Burke said to Ripley in Alien, 'It was a bad call'"

    Yeah, we all remember about those honest mistakes that Weyland-Yutani made in Aliens.
  • I gotta side with New Jersey on this one...it was an Act of God.

    /And God was sick of riding to work in a train car that smelled like urine and failure.
  • MyRandomName: A liberal shunning responsibility for his bad decisions? You don't say.


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  • NJ Transit only has so much railyard capacity in its system, and a lot of its operational trackage cuts through densely populated residential areas and/or is leased from Amtrak and other entities, so parking trains there would have been unsafe or impractical.
  • My hind-sight is better than your hind-sight.
  • AirForceVet: In the dude's defense, they don't get many hurricanes with storm surges up in NJ.

    If he done the same in, say, Florida, he wouldn't have had a track to stand on.


    As someone who lives right by that train station, and also lost a car in the floods, I can understand where he is coming from. Yes, everyone knows town floods. But it flooded like it never had before, in areas that never flooded before.

    I went out of my way to move my cars out of town during the hurricane last year, and a tree missed taking them both out by about 5 feet. Meanwhile there wasn't a drop of water in my garage.

    So for this one, I didn't move one of the cars. My garage got 5 feet of water in it when the surge backed up through the sewers (I am about 1/4 mile from the river with a big hill between it and me) and flooded areas that never flooded before.

    NJT has been great in getting things going again.
  • If only forecasters had predicted that the area would have the largest storm surge the region had ever seen. Then they could have moved the trains inland.

    Oh, wait. They did. With near perfect accuracy. With at least 5 days in advance.

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  • MyRandomName: A liberal shunning responsibility for his bad decisions? You don't say.


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  • Will the federal DOT or FEMA bail them out with funding for new trains? Could be a good move.
  • MrSteve007: If only forecasters had predicted that the area would have the largest storm surge the region had ever seen. Then they could have moved the trains inland.

    Oh, wait. They did. With near perfect accuracy. With at least 5 days in advance.

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  • AirForceVet: In the dude's defense, they don't get many hurricanes with storm surges up in NJ.

    If he done the same in, say, Florida, he wouldn't have had a track to stand on.


    Yeah because we don't have tv or cameras or video or the internet, so no one outside of typical hurricane areas knows what one is.

    What?
  • MrSteve007: If only forecasters had predicted that the area would have the largest storm surge the region had ever seen. Then they could have moved the trains inland.

    Oh, wait. They did. With near perfect accuracy. With at least 5 days in advance.

    Link


    What flooded most of hoboken wasn't the surge itself. it barely made it a block from the river. What took town down was when the surge ran back up the sewers and flooded areas that have never flooded before. Hoboken has always flooded very predictably. a few inches of rain in a couple of hours during high tide will put one of the corners of my building under a foot or two of water for 12 hours. It happens a few times a year. What happened this time was kind of mind boggling to watch happen.

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    is about as far from the river as you can get, and in my 10+ years of living here, I have never seen that area even have standing water during a storm. Same goes for the railyard.

    Likewise like someone said, NJT has a limited number of places it can stick trains, and with the wind, you risked sticking them someplace a tree would fall on them, or have them stranded on some side track when you were ready to resume the system.
  • brigid_fitch: Almost 4 decades of, "OMG, killer storm!", and each time the same areas are predictably affected. There was no reason to believe Sandy was going to be any different. Until it was.


    There was plenty of reason to believe it would be different.

    Only idiots believe the sensationalist media.
  • LineNoise: As someone who lives right by that train station, and also lost a car in the floods, I can understand where he is coming from. Yes, everyone knows town floods. But it flooded like it never had before, in areas that never flooded before.


    So what you're saying is you're too stupid to leave town with a week's notice that a hurricane is coming?
  • i dont question this guy,he really didnt have much to go on. what i do question is why this area got so built up in the first place. visited there recently and it is a swampy mess without storm surges. did people just get tired and decide to stop there?
  • MrSteve007: If only forecasters had predicted that the area would have the largest storm surge the region had ever seen. Then they could have moved the trains inland.

    Oh, wait. They did. With near perfect accuracy. With at least 5 days in advance.

    Link


    Hey, you can't expect people to listen to stuff. They're busying on Facebook lolin all over.

    Anyone who stayed in NYC or NJ deserved to die. Only the mentally fit should survive.
  • MyRandomName: A liberal shunning responsibility for his bad decisions? You don't say.


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  • Well, at least now I know why my line is still farked up, schedule wise.
  • Funny, in my office we really don't care if you have a defense for a screw-up that costs the firm money. If you fark up big enough you get fired. This would haev qualified him for an exit.
  • "People say, 'Oh, you just move the trains,'" [Weinstein] said. "This is not a toy train set. They're not buses you buy at a Hess station for your kids at Christmas. This is real life. This is big machines that take a lot of people who are very well trained."

    Not well enough it seems.
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