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AverageAmericanGuy: Poker isn't really gambling
AverageAmericanGuy: Poker isn't really gambling. Better players will beat worse players. There is a definite strategy that isn't based on pure luck like roulette or craps.
van1ty: clyph: What do you mean by random?Odds are somebody is going to get killed driving to work today. Do you consider driving to work today to be gambling, since the death of this person is "random"? Are you not making a wager on an event?If you invest in the stock market, is that gambling? Does it change if you go to a "professional"?Should people be banned from buying icecream before the try it, because there's uncertainty as to how much flavour (and utility, and value) the customer will get upon purchasing it? Is this not a wager on the outcome of some event?
jack21221: I've always wondered how poker tournaments can be considered gambling, but chess tournaments aren't. Or Magic: The Gathering tournaments. In all these cases, you're putting up money up front to play a game, and the best players will have a better chance at winning the final prize at the end. The actual chips that you "bet" during the poker game have no value. And in the case of M:tG tournaments, there is even luck involved.So I really don't understand how poker tournaments can be treated differently than chess tournaments or M:tG tournaments.
phalamir: Do you use money to influence the path the game takes in chess* or MtG?
oh_please: This wasn't a "get together with your friends" poker night, the SC said that's OK...this was a large scale operation that happened to be run out of a home, and clearly wasn't a one-time thing.
LDM90: Gamblers: Why don't they go after thieves?Thieves: Why don't they go after drunk drivers?Drunk drivers: Why don't they go after child molesters?
phalamir: Ahh, I see you finally passed enough courses on the 20th or 30th try to qualify as a sophmore.
JohnCarter: There is a difference between 5 friends playing cards while having a few beers and have two dozen folks playing cards at no doubt 4 to 5 different tables. This looks like a residential street (see link). No doubt neighbors called the cops due to traffic.