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  • He said he now tells all patients set to undergo transoral laser surgery that there is a chance they could bleed to death afterwards.

    Still sounds better than chemo.
  • why didn't they go to the ER when they saw his throat was swollen?
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    FTFA: Today Jim's grieving family have questioned why he had to die before medics could realise the dangers - six years after doctors in Australia highlighted the risks.

    For fark sakes. They're Doctors. Not Medics. Medic is slang for either a Military Corpsman/Healthcare Specialist, or an EMT/Paramedic in the civilian world.

    Paramedics don't perform laser surgery. We lop off limbs that have been trapped under tons of concrete for more than three hours, place an occasional chest tube, and (hopefully never) cut a throat open to put a tube in someone's trachea.

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    FTFA:
    "He coughed up a massive clot of blood and started to gush like a fountain.

    "He was hysterical and ran out into the garden, panicking and scared, saying 'I'm going to die' and 'Help me'." An ambulance was called, but by the time paramedics arrived Jim's heart had already stopped. He was taken to Newcastle's Royal Victoria Infirmary where he was pronounced dead.


    So either he had an esophageal varice rupture, or he had an aortic dissection of some kind. I'm sad this guy died, but if he had throat or esophageal cancer, that's one of the expected complications of it. There's really nothing in the article that points fault to the Docs like submitter claims, other than the family mad that "no one told them the risks"

    In reality, however, there's NOTHING that can be done for this other than being on an OR table when it happens. In the field, Diesel Boluses to a V8 engine combined with Large bore IV or IO access and lots of fluids to keep their systolic around 90mmhg are the only way to even get them somewhere alive, where hopefully GI is setting at the bedside with an endoscope and a banding tool to stop the bleed. If it was an aortic dissection, he could have it happen setting inside of a university hosptial, and still die before he made it into the OR - in fact, active dissection is one of the reasons they'll crack your chest in the ER suite.

    Even then, fluids are only going to buy short amounts of time. IV Crystaloids like Normal Saline and LR dilute clotting factors, and thin oxygen carrying blood out without replacing red blood cells or plasma proteins.
  • BronyMedic

    We have a rare survivor of an aortic dissection (not in a hospital) on Fark: http://www.fark.com/comments/299811/2​001951#c2001951.
  • ZAZ: We have a rare survivor of an aortic dissection (not in a hospital) on Fark


    I want to buy that man a beer. Too bad he's already TFer, I'd buy him a week just for being hard to kill period.

    I'm an Atheist, but someone was looking out for him on a cosmic scale.
  • ZAZ: BronyMedic

    We have a rare survivor of an aortic dissection (not in a hospital) on Fark: http://www.fark.com/comments/299811/20​01951#c2001951.


    jaysus. i had no idea.
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    Infidel Defilers. They shall all drown in lakes of blood. Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they learn why they fear the night.
  • This family sure sounds like a whiny bunch. I bet they'll be just as shocked and outraged when other family members die, even if they're 101.
  • I had a more minor incident lik this when I got my tonsils out at age 24. The wound came open and I had to be taken back to the OR, and on the way there, I spit out a coffee cup full of blood.

    A little scary but it wasn't a fountain, just a slow leak. Gross.
  • BronyMedic: For fark sakes. They're Doctors. Not Medics. Medic is slang for either a Military Corpsman/Healthcare Specialist, or an EMT/Paramedic in the civilian world.


    Actually, it's the opposite. Just because medic has become slang for most of those things doesn't mean it's the correct term.


    Especially for one of those things the prefix para- kind of gives it away too.
  • ZAZ: BronyMedic

    We have a rare survivor of an aortic dissection (not in a hospital) on Fark: http://www.fark.com/comments/299811/20​01951#c2001951.


    Holy shiat, what a story! A local man here had a similar story, I was amazed he survived it.

    Link
  • A top doctor also revealed that procedures have been changed since the 57-year-old death.

    And we're only hearing about this now?
  • Awaiting the hour of reprisal. Your time slips away.
  • Why are British women so freaking ugly?
  • ZAZ: He said he now tells all patients set to undergo transoral laser surgery that there is a chance they could bleed to death afterwards.

    Still sounds better than chemo.


    Whoa whoa whoa! You mean something could go wrong with a surgery near my throat???
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    Infidel Defilers. They shall all drown in lakes of blood. Now they will know why they are afraid of the dark. Now they learn why they fear the night.


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    More blood for the Blood God!
  • ZAZ: BronyMedic

    We have a rare survivor of an aortic dissection (not in a hospital) on Fark: http://www.fark.com/comments/299811/20​01951#c2001951.


    Just curious, but what is the difference between an aortic dissection and an aortic aneurysm?
  • BronyMedic: ZAZ: We have a rare survivor of an aortic dissection (not in a hospital) on Fark

    I want to buy that man a beer. Too bad he's already TFer, I'd buy him a week just for being hard to kill period.

    I'm an Atheist...


    The kind of stuff you see happen to the human organism would probably push me deep into that camp, if I were not there already.

    But it could push someone the other way, I suppose.
  • I didn't see anything about him being a nurse, did I miss it? Or is that some inside joke that I missed?
  • qualtrough: I didn't see anything about him being a nurse, did I miss it? Or is that some inside joke that I missed?


    /FTA Jim, a learning disabilities nurse
  • qualtrough: I didn't see anything about him being a nurse, did I miss it? Or is that some inside joke that I missed?

    Jim, a learning disabilities nurse,

  • I'm an excellent driver: qualtrough: I didn't see anything about him being a nurse, did I miss it? Or is that some inside joke that I missed?

    /FTA Jim, a learning disabilities nurse


    Well, that was close
  • ivan: A top doctor also revealed that procedures have been changed since the 57-year-old death.

    And we're only hearing about this now?


    Nice catch.
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