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  • The AP has phobiaphobia.
  • Well, "undocumented immigrants" doesn't appear in the article (unless I missed it). But I have a problem with that, too. The right's use of "illegals" makes me cringe, as it is a clear attempt to dehumanize. The left's use of "undocumented immigrant" also bothers me, as they are more than undocumented, they are here illegally. Call them "illegal immigrants". It's what they are without connotation. Then fix the farking problem.
  • All words are made-up.


    /the brain named itself
  • AdolfOliverPanties: All words are made-up.


    /the brain named itself


    My brain would have called the brain "head kidney."
  • impaler: AdolfOliverPanties: All words are made-up.

    /the brain named itself

    My brain would have called the brain "head kidney."


    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm butter

    and subby, I dont think you know what the word "spiffy" means. You were looking for retarded or stupid or silly. Spiffy is for "cool"ish things, not moronic decisions.
  • This could be a good thing.

    I think they are mostly right to stop using medical/psychological words to label behaviors when they are not doctors or psychologists. I wonder what they will replace "ethnic cleansing" with, or what they would now call "enhanced interrogation techniques".

    Ethnic cleansing seems to describe something more than "pretty violent activities" and also something that can be much less than a genocide.
  • We are all embiggened by their example.
  • Three Crooked Squirrels: Well, "undocumented immigrants" doesn't appear in the article (unless I missed it). But I have a problem with that, too. The right's use of "illegals" makes me cringe, as it is a clear attempt to dehumanize. The left's use of "undocumented immigrant" also bothers me, as they are more than undocumented, they are here illegally. Call them "illegal immigrants". It's what they are without connotation. Then fix the farking problem.


    "Undocumented immigrants" is a bullshiat term because it implies the legality of the immigrant is simply a matter of paperwork, and it's not. If they were actually documented, most of them wouldn't be immigrants anymore, because they'd be deported. Why? Because they are here illegally.

    That said, I'm an amnesty supporter.
  • impaler: AdolfOliverPanties: All words are made-up.


    /the brain named itself

    My brain would have called the brain "head kidney."


    Now that's using your bean.
  • RoyBatty: Ethnic cleansing seems to describe something more than "pretty violent activities" and also something that can be much less than a genocide.


    Just call it mass-murder based on ethnic criteria, then attribute a number to it.
  • Lsherm: RoyBatty: Ethnic cleansing seems to describe something more than "pretty violent activities" and also something that can be much less than a genocide.

    Just call it mass-murder based on ethnic criteria, then attribute a number to it.


    But according to the wiki, for instance, it might not involve mass murder. Link

    It might not involve murder at all, and conceivably might be conducted using entirely legal means.
  • RoyBatty: Lsherm: RoyBatty: Ethnic cleansing seems to describe something more than "pretty violent activities" and also something that can be much less than a genocide.

    Just call it mass-murder based on ethnic criteria, then attribute a number to it.

    But according to the wiki, for instance, it might not involve mass murder. Link

    It might not involve murder at all, and conceivably might be conducted using entirely legal means.


    Well then, call it what it is. Doesn't this prove AP's point, that the term is too vague for use in a news story?
  • Lsherm: RoyBatty: Lsherm: RoyBatty: Ethnic cleansing seems to describe something more than "pretty violent activities" and also something that can be much less than a genocide.

    Just call it mass-murder based on ethnic criteria, then attribute a number to it.

    But according to the wiki, for instance, it might not involve mass murder. Link

    It might not involve murder at all, and conceivably might be conducted using entirely legal means.

    Well then, call it what it is. Doesn't this prove AP's point, that the term is too vague for use in a news story?


    Maybe, though again, the wiki says academics find it useful.

    I have no idea -- it will be interesting to see how it is replaced.
  • Those words are fine to use, irregardless of what the AP says.
  • Newspeak doubleplusungood.

    *jedi hand wave*

    These are not the human and civil rights issues you're looking for
    might I suggest War on Christmas?
  • If only removing actual undocumented immigrants were as easy.
  • skinink: Those words are fine to use, irregardless of what the AP says.


    Perfectly cromulent
  • By all means, let's argue about the words, and not focus on what's actually going on. It's a much better use of our time and energy.

    Things have been so much better since we began calling those people with low IQs "developmentally challeneged" and not "retards", amirite? Think how much better off we'll be when we refer to those who irrationally hate homosexuals as "anti-gay" and not "homophobes".
  • I think everything intelligent that needs to be said has already been said, so I'm just dropping in to say hello!
  • Homophobia IS a pretty stupid word.
  • Fine, but what happens when the "anti-gay" folks demand to be identified as "pro-traditional families" or some shiat? Just like pro-life/anti-choice, there's already an inherent bias in how you brand a group or an individual. Writing around what they are doesn't inform anyone. You might as well just do away with all descriptors and adjectives altogether.
  • R.I.P.

    Santa Claus and Jesus Christ
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