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  • Since college or the military are the easy ways out of Iowa.
  • It's easy, just mail everyone who turns 18 a diploma, whether they deserve it or not.

    /not suggesting that's what's happening, but don't states have different standards for graduation? How fair is this comparison?
  • I wish they had a link to all 50 states (or I missed it on the page). Not for any snark, I just want to know how everyone is doing.
  • That's where the tall corn grows.
  • this doesn't surprise me

    /iowan
  • Graduation does not equal education.
  • I wonder what the literacy rate is.
  • Good for them. In VA we still use standardized tests to rate our teachers effectiveness and they will pass anybody in order to keep their funding. Seriously, I walked across the stage with kids who could barely read and write at an elementary school level. It's insulting to the kids who worked hard and did well in school. At least this state seems to get that you cant reach every kid. Some of them are simply empty headed slack-jawed yokels who don't give a shiat about their education, and the school shouldn't be punished for that. I never thought I would say this, but good for Iowa.

    /end rant
  • Gotta love that phrasing: ONLY failing 12%....
    How about ONLY passing 88%? I would have gotten disowned for bringing home a grade that poor.
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    You commit it to a quarter, you better back it up
  • Subby fails at reading comprehension.
  • That's because if you live there, you'll do anything to break out.
  • AcneVulgaris: I wonder what the literacy rate is.


    it was 99% for years and years until the increased immigration from mexico and sudan the past two decades knocked it down some. I don't think it will take too long to get back up there though. I figure they must judge literacy as solely proficiency in english though as I assume most mexicans can write spanish.

    besides, there's not much to do in iowa but read, fark, and smoke dope anyway

    i also garden
  • reklamfox: Good for them. In VA we still use standardized tests to rate our teachers effectiveness and they will pass anybody in order to keep their funding. Seriously, I walked across the stage with kids who could barely read and write at an elementary school level. It's insulting to the kids who worked hard and did well in school. At least this state seems to get that you cant reach every kid. Some of them are simply empty headed slack-jawed yokels who don't give a shiat about their education, and the school shouldn't be punished for that. I never thought I would say this, but good for Iowa.

    /end rant


    Don't know if this is your case but..

    May of those kids like that have special education directives where they are in inclusive programs. Some earn diplomas, some earn something like a certificate of attendance. I don't think a person that is not capable of earning a diploma should get one, but I've not problem with them walking across the stage to get the empty diploma cover with everyone else... and then later trading in their rented gown for their certificate of attendance.
  • untaken_name: Gotta love that phrasing: ONLY failing 12%....
    How about ONLY passing 88%? I would have gotten disowned for bringing home a grade that poor.


    Maybe your English grades were inflated?
    Anyway, there are plenty of kids whose parents don't care about their grades, because they (the parents) did poorly at school and no-one cared about them either. Or else, parents just get worn out and sick of it all. I was number 4 of 5 kids, and my parents had given up on caring by the time I was in school. No-one ever told me post-secondary school was something I could do. I always thought it was for a special class. I was pointed towards service jobs. I dropped out of high school when both parents ended up in other countries.
    Took a long time, and I still feel inadequate, but I can put Dr. in front of my name now.
    I rarely do, though.
  • nmrsnr: It's easy, just mail everyone who turns 18 a diploma, whether they deserve it or not.


    Similar to what I was going to suggest was happening. How many are graduating and actually deserve to graduate? Are 12% just that stupid that there is no way in hell they could auto-pass them without being called on it?

    I like to believe that the percentages are on the up and up, though. Shame the pass rate isn't higher but Iowa seems to be doing something right that a LOT of other districts in the nation should take notice of. (I'm looking at you, nation's capital).
    Of course there's the argument that you can't teach kids that don't want to be taught, etc. but maybe we need more incentive or something.
    I don't know.
  • Ryker's Peninsula: That's where the tall corn grows.



    Corn is the answer.


    /Except when it's hogs
    //Or bacon
    ///We report, you decide
  • TheManofPA: I wish they had a link to all 50 states (or I missed it on the page). Not for any snark, I just want to know how everyone is doing.


    www.boostup.org


    /sorry, mobile.
  • All you East and West coasters better stay away from Iowa. You WILL be assaulted with polite conversation and extreme friendliness, then ruthlessly invited to a good home cooked dinner. And who would want that?
  • Amos Quito: Ryker's Peninsula: That's where the tall corn grows.


    Corn is the answer.


    we should put it in everything.
  • They aren't allowed to dance.
  • Rufus Lee King: nmrsnr: It's easy, just mail everyone who turns 18 a diploma, whether they deserve it or not.

    /not suggesting that's what's happening, but don't states have different standards for graduation? How fair is this comparison?

    FTA (fairly early in): "The 2010-11 academic year marked the first time all 50 states used a uniform, more rigorous standard to measure how many students graduated, the federal education report said."


    Yes, a standardized method of counting the number of students who graduated, which is nice, but not necessarily standardizing the criteria for who qualifies for graduation. Those are different, and potentially very important.
  • reklamfox: Good for them. In VA we still use standardized tests to rate our teachers effectiveness and they will pass anybody in order to keep their funding. Seriously, I walked across the stage with kids who could barely read and write at an elementary school level. It's insulting to the kids who worked hard and did well in school. At least this state seems to get that you cant reach every kid. Some of them are simply empty headed slack-jawed yokels who don't give a shiat about their education, and the school shouldn't be punished for that. I never thought I would say this, but good for Iowa.

    /end rant


    Insulting? Really? "I got an education! All that kid got was a diploma! But somehow I'm the one who's insulted."
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