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  • See, here's the problem. Zero-tolerance, no-interpretation, strict-penalty rules are utterly stupid and reflect a complete idiocy within the system whenever they end up being seriously considered.

    But that's the problem. When school administrators are given responsibility for "creative problem solving," they come up with shiat like this. So the system's already there.
  • A few others went as far as to say it sent a negative message to gay students because it portrayed hand-holding by two males to be embarrassing.

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  • Pocket Ninja: See, here's the problem. Zero-tolerance, no-interpretation, strict-penalty rules are utterly stupid and reflect a complete idiocy within the system whenever they end up being seriously considered.

    But that's the problem. When school administrators are given responsibility for "creative problem solving," they come up with shiat like this. So the system's already there.


    Positions of power attract the people least suited to hold power. Similar phenomenon with positions requiring judgement. So, years of failed judgement led to zero-tolerance policies.

    fwiw -I dont mind this type of practice where two choices are offered.
  • Yeah, this was a bad idea. Making two boys hold hands is going to go over like a lead balloon in Mormon Mesa, AZ.
  • Two East Valley high school students were forced to hold hands in front of their classmates as punishment for fighting. Now that punishment is drawing criticism.

    The students at Westwood High in Mesa were apparently given the option to hold hands instead of being suspended.


    At first I was like: "Ok, after fighting, they were giving the option of suspension, or holding hands - an act of friendship, bonding, getting past the disagreement... what's the big deal?"

    "Kids were laughing at them and calling them names asking, 'are you gay,'"


    Oh yeah. Homophobia. Forgot about that.
  • styckx: A few others went as far as to say it sent a negative message to gay students because it portrayed hand-holding by two males to be embarrassing.


    They were wrestling!

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    Love the IAWSIP crew for getting that shot.
  • Sexual harassment. Sue the shiat outta the school, kiddos.
  • impaler: Two East Valley high school students were forced to hold hands in front of their classmates as punishment for fighting. Now that punishment is drawing criticism.

    The students at Westwood High in Mesa were apparently given the option to hold hands instead of being suspended.

    At first I was like: "Ok, after fighting, they were giving the option of suspension, or holding hands - an act of friendship, bonding, getting past the disagreement... what's the big deal?"

    "Kids were laughing at them and calling them names asking, 'are you gay,'"

    Oh yeah. Homophobia. Forgot about that.


    This has potential to upset so many people; it's beautiful.
  • I'm imagining the Fark comments section from an alternate universe where the two students are girls. It's a fun thread.
  • High school snowflakes? Aren't high schoolers a bit old to be snowflakes? Isn't there an age limit to being referred to as a snowflake?
  • Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I'm imagining the Fark comments section from an alternate universe where the two students are girls. It's a fun thread.


    "Go ahead and hug. Now... now smell her hair..."
  • You act like children, you should be treated like children
  • "I've been in ROTC and it's no different than some of the stuff you have to do there. It works."


    Huh?

    WTF are they doing in ROTC?
  • 1-They volunteered.
    2-If it was so humiliating, take punitive action on the homosexual slurs from the other students.
    3-That is life. Shielding youth from name calling, does not help. Teach them to deal with it.
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  • I pay these people to have a positive influence on my kids, my neighbors kids, and some dude I've never met kid's. fark that.
  • Headline: 2 Mesa students forced to hold hands

    Article: 2 Mesa students given the option to hold hands
  • It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
  • Happy Hours: "I've been in ROTC and it's no different than some of the stuff you have to do there. It works."


    Huh?

    WTF are they doing in ROTC?


    I think they mean JROTC.
  • They used to take us down to the gym at lunchtime and strap the boxing gloves on us when we were caught fighting. The entire student body, faculty, and administration would come watch a couple of us try to knock each others blocks off. When it was over we'd try and lift our tired arms and shake hands and that would be the end of it. Win or lose it was kind of humiliating to be part of a public battle, but it was better than the alternate punishment of a three day suspension. Punishment is not supposed to be easy. If it were, they'd have called it something else.

    /and there was no long term damage
    //unless you count cranial injuries maybe
  • ThrobblefootSpectre: Headline: 2 Mesa students forced to hold hands

    Article: 2 Mesa students given the option to hold hands


    Yeah, it's not like the other option was to be suspended...Wait a minute - How bad is a suspension anyway? Isn't that like a short vacation?

    Does it go on your "permanent record"? What if one of the students had wanted to hold hands but the other student didn't?

    One thing that always pissed me off about getting detention in school was that I would be punished 3 times worse at home than the actual detention while most other kids parents seemed to think the school's punishment was enough.
  • John_David_Stutts: They used to take us down to the gym at lunchtime and strap the boxing gloves on us when we were caught fighting. The entire student body, faculty, and administration would come watch a couple of us try to knock each others blocks off. When it was over we'd try and lift our tired arms and shake hands and that would be the end of it. Win or lose it was kind of humiliating to be part of a public battle, but it was better than the alternate punishment of a three day suspension. Punishment is not supposed to be easy. If it were, they'd have called it something else.

    /and there was no long term damage
    //unless you count cranial injuries maybe


    That sounds incredibly in favor of the instigator. You bully on a fellow kid, he defends himself(like he should) and you are granted the reward with beating him up, for the second time, but with an audience.
  • Is the fight or the handholding getting the criticism?
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