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  • "I don't understand the rationale for doing it so soon."

    Then I $uppo$e you're pretty $tupid.
  • Well, that's wonderful. If they are using marijuana for conditions which it's indicated, and proven for, then good for them. I only hope the FDA and Feds don't come down on them for it.

    On another note, if they're one of those assholes marketing it as a cure for everything (Yes. Marijuana Woo DOES exist. Apparently, people don't understand that something showing in vitro cancer effects does not translate to in vivo effects necessarily.), I hope the FDA and Feds DO come down on them.
  • The pro-pot people are doing a masterful job. While I am sure a people do get some relief for various ailments the VAST majority of people are getting high on medical marijuana because it cures them from not being high. Watch any documentary and watch the 28 year old guy with "back pain" nearly bust when referring to it as "my medication". What a wacky route to take to get to: it feels good, it aint that bad for you, stop ruining free people's lives, and butt the fark out government.
  • BronyMedic: Well, that's wonderful. If they are using marijuana for conditions which it's indicated, and proven for, then good for them. I only hope the FDA and Feds don't come down on them for it.

    On another note, if they're one of those assholes marketing it as a cure for everything (Yes. Marijuana Woo DOES exist. Apparently, people don't understand that something showing in vitro cancer effects does not translate to in vivo effects necessarily.), I hope the FDA and Feds DO come down on them.


    A few things:

    It blows my mind that study after study shows that pot helps drive appetite, gives a sense of euphoria and happiness to those going to cancer treatment or trying to manage pain due to terminal illness, and yet we as a country (law makers) would rather pump you full of highly narcotic drugs and chemicals to achieve the same effects.

    I agree that the potheads need to knock it the fark off. The only thing in my opinion more annoying that a pothead's rambling on how great weed is, is a Born Again Christian who wont shut the fark up about Jesus.

    I have maintained for years, that this to the general public and to law makers, is the face of the pro medical marijuana movement:
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    When in reality, this should be the face of medical marijuana:
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    Personally, I think marijuana should be as available as alcohol and cigarettes, but that is discussion for another thread 

    I am not saying that a constant morphine drip isn't helpful, but weed certainly ain't gonna hinder anything. I am trying to put myself in the shoes of those who actually want/need weed, those who are sick and or dying...I get a general sense of "fark you government and telling me what I can and cannot use to help regulate my appetite, pain, general sense of happiness, etc."
  • Endive Wombat: BronyMedic: Well, that's wonderful. If they are using marijuana for conditions which it's indicated, and proven for, then good for them. I only hope the FDA and Feds don't come down on them for it.

    On another note, if they're one of those assholes marketing it as a cure for everything (Yes. Marijuana Woo DOES exist. Apparently, people don't understand that something showing in vitro cancer effects does not translate to in vivo effects necessarily.), I hope the FDA and Feds DO come down on them.

    A few things:

    It blows my mind that study after study shows that pot helps drive appetite, gives a sense of euphoria and happiness to those going to cancer treatment or trying to manage pain due to terminal illness, and yet we as a country (law makers) would rather pump you full of highly narcotic drugs and chemicals to achieve the same effects.

    I agree that the potheads need to knock it the fark off. The only thing in my opinion more annoying that a pothead's rambling on how great weed is, is a Born Again Christian who wont shut the fark up about Jesus.

    I have maintained for years, that this to the general public and to law makers, is the face of the pro medical marijuana movement:
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    When in reality, this should be the face of medical marijuana:
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    Personally, I think marijuana should be as available as alcohol and cigarettes, but that is discussion for another thread 

    I am not saying that a constant morphine drip isn't helpful, but weed certainly ain't gonna hinder anything. I am trying to put myself in the shoes of those who actually want/need weed, those who are sick and or dying...I get a general sense of "fark you government and telling me what I can and c ...


    Dude, you're preaching to the choir here. I've repeatedly said this. In return, I've been accused of having a secret anti-pot agenda. I dislike the ethical and moral implications of the pro-recreational movement trying to use the medical movement as a pathway to blanket legalization, rather than letting the medical movement work to helping patients, and working on their own for overt legalization or decriminalization for recreational use.

    Marijuana is an exceptional adjunct to that narcotic therapy in somatic pain. It does shiat for primary pain control - it's worse than giving a terminal cancer patient some motrin and telling him to drink water. (Military farkers, you get this joke.) The only place you'd want to use it as a primary pain control agent is in neurogenic pain - like diabetic neuropathy.

    Also, there's no such thing as "highly narcotic". The fact a drug is a "narcotic" alone does not determine it's potency or addictiveness, or even toxicity. Morphine, Demerol, and Fentanyl are all narcotic medications. But giving the same dose of Fentanyl as Morphine will kill your patient dead quick, and Demerol has a problem of toxic metabolites. This is a BIG issue in the management of Chronic Pain. Narcotic refers to the class of drugs - they are derived from either synthetic opiates, or they are derived from opium compounds - and the word itself has negative connotations that have been associated with it's use in vilifying illegal opiates, like heroin.

    Even healthcare providers are moving away from calling them narcs, or narcotics, because of the stigma of the word. I just finished a pain control update, and system wide we're going to using opiates and opioids to describe the drugs.
  • BronyMedic: I dislike the ethical and moral implications of the pro-recreational movement trying to use the medical movement as a pathway to blanket legalization, rather than letting the medical movement work to helping patients, and working on their own for overt legalization or decriminalization for recreational use.


    pissedoffmick: Watch any documentary and watch the 28 year old guy with "back pain" nearly bust when referring to it as "my medication".


    Well, if it isn't weed or some random hard drug, he would be drinking. Some people just want to escape reality, and I see nothing wrong with that.

    And here is the issue - "back pain", stage 4 bone cancer, and chemo therapy are lumped together when folks start talking about medical marijuana. I'm not sure if I have an answer as to where the bright-line is for "legit use" vs "not legit use"...which is why I say, legalize, regulate and tax.
  • cancer patients are ghay
    they shouldn't be allowed to smoke shiat

    or take weed in brownie form

    why?

    because they're not TRYING hard enough
    lying in bed all day is something a stoner does
    get a life stupid lazy biatch
  • Damn, I was hoping it'd be here in Boston..
  • Endive Wombat: Some people just want to escape reality, and I see nothing wrong with that


    Nor do I, at all. I just find it hilarious.
    I watch porn to stave off prostate problems.
  • 2 weed threads on a saturday morning??

    load up the bong and turn on the cartoons!

    /i keed
    //bowl and soccer
  • shivashakti: Damn, I was hoping it'd be here in Boston..


    Because Framingham and Natick are sooooooo far away
  • Framingham Board of Health Chairman Mike Hugo said. "I don't understand the rationale for doing it so soon."

    They're rushing to get into the business before your town, like the others, bans pot dispensaries, pot smoking, and so forth.

    When voters decriminalized marijuana a few years ago towns recriminalized it by local ordinances making smoking pot illegal. Carrying it is a $100 state ticket. Smoking it is a $300 municipal ordinance violation. 

    This could have been anticipated in the law. I wish some of these pot addicts would ask me for advice on writing their referenda.
  • Endive Wombat When in reality, this should be the face of medical marijuana:

    At this point in life, I say let them have whatever the hell they want.
  • Do chronic sciatica and ankylosing spondilitis count as "back pain"?
  • BronyMedic: weed is teh bad, m'kai?


    How many patients do you see that are sick because of marijuana use?
  • The Incredible Sexual Egg: Because Framingham and Natick are sooooooo far away


    When you don't have a vehicle? Yes.
  • Framingham is a 40 minute ride on commuter rail. You can't smoke on the train or in the station.
  • special20: BronyMedic: weed is teh bad, m'kai?

    How many patients do you see that are sick because of marijuana use?


    Oh, look. Another one. Other than schizophrenics, and people who get anxiety attacks from it's use? None.

    Please, let me state for a fact, weed is not bad. Recreational, it's safer than alcohol for short term use, but smoked, has the same dangers as long-term cigarette use.

    I have a problem with people passing ANY substance off as a cure for X when it has not been demonstrated to be effective in that population. It gives people false hope. It robs desperate people of their money. And it delegitimizes marijuana as a LEGITIMATE treatment for some conditions.

    But please. Continue assuming because I'm realistic about medical marijuana and THC-compounds, and because I treat it like any other drug, with indications and contraindications, I think Marijuana is bad.
  • ZAZ: Framingham is a 40 minute ride on commuter rail. You can't smoke on the train or in the station.


    Just take a hit or two while walking across the parking lot.
  • shivashakti: The Incredible Sexual Egg: Because Framingham and Natick are sooooooo far away

    When you don't have a vehicle? Yes.


    Both accessabe via commuter rail.
  • BronyMedic: Well, that's wonderful. If they are using marijuana for conditions which it's indicated, and proven for, then good for them. I only hope the FDA and Feds don't come down on them for it.

    On another note, if they're one of those assholes marketing it as a cure for everything (Yes. Marijuana Woo DOES exist. Apparently, people don't understand that something showing in vitro cancer effects does not translate to in vivo effects necessarily.), I hope the FDA and Feds DO come down on them.


    /Livin la vivo vitro
  • BronyMedic: special20: BronyMedic: weed is teh bad, m'kai?

    How many patients do you see that are sick because of marijuana use?

    Oh, look. Another one. Other than schizophrenics, and people who get anxiety attacks from it's use? None.

    Please, let me state for a fact, weed is not bad. Recreational, it's safer than alcohol for short term use, but smoked, has the same dangers as long-term cigarette use.

    I have a problem with people passing ANY substance off as a cure for X when it has not been demonstrated to be effective in that population. It gives people false hope. It robs desperate people of their money. And it delegitimizes marijuana as a LEGITIMATE treatment for some conditions.

    But please. Continue assuming because I'm realistic about medical marijuana and THC-compounds, and because I treat it like any other drug, with indications and contraindications, I think Marijuana is bad.


    As with all things in life

    /the potential is there, not just with the THC, but other compounds in it
    //but so is the fear
  • Hack Patooey: Both accessabe via commuter rail.


    Yes, but expensive and time-consuming to get to.

    ZAZ: Framingham is a 40 minute ride on commuter rail. You can't smoke on the train or in the station.


    The dispensaries in California often sell it in baked goods or candies. A friend gave me some pot taffy from a dispensary in California once. (My friend has a prescription for her health condition.) Sweet Jesus, that was potent!

    Half a piece of taffy and I was wasted.
  • BronyMedic: special20: BronyMedic: weed is teh bad, m'kai?

    How many patients do you see that are sick because of marijuana use?

    Oh, look. Another one. Other than schizophrenics, and people who get anxiety attacks from it's use? None.

    Please, let me state for a fact, weed is not bad. Recreational, it's safer than alcohol for short term use, but smoked, has the same dangers as long-term cigarette use.

    I have a problem with people passing ANY substance off as a cure for X when it has not been demonstrated to be effective in that population. It gives people false hope. It robs desperate people of their money. And it delegitimizes marijuana as a LEGITIMATE treatment for some conditions.

    But please. Continue assuming because I'm realistic about medical marijuana and THC-compounds, and because I treat it like any other drug, with indications and contraindications, I think Marijuana is bad.


    If you don't think it's bad, why then do you continue to argue against its use? I'm having a bit of a struggle with your point, as I am not sure if it is obtuse, or hyperbolic.What I think the issue is, for you, is that smoking is bad, not just that marijuana is bad. Is that about right? So if a user can vaporize marijuana to ingest it, you still find issue? Yet, you're not against weed in general? Whargarble?
  • BronyMedic: Oh, look. Another one. Other than schizophrenics, and people who get anxiety attacks from it's use? None.


    With schizophrenics correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation. There simply is not enough studies done. I do know that anxiety attacks are real; my cousin takes medication for it and cannot smoke marijuana.
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