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  • Please tell me this is satire. They think this will help make kids prepared for college?
  • naughtyrev: Please tell me this is satire. They think this will help make kids prepared for college?


    Not satire. See US Dept of Education's "Race to the Top."
  • Wow, subby wasn't being satirical in the headline.
  • Supporters of the directive argue that it will help pupils to develop the ability to write concisely and factually, which will be more useful in the workplace than a knowledge of Shakespeare.

    Bullsh*t. It's not the knowledge of Shakespeare that makes the kid employable or ready for college. It's his or her exposure, however cursory, to a wide range of subjects. Spitting out a kid who can only write as though it were a technical manual is not the way to fix things.
  • Catcher in the Rye was a stupid book.
  • dickfreckle: Spitting out a kid who can only write as though it were a technical manual is not the way to fix things.


    Um, what do you think the education systems of half the world have been doing for the last 20 years? Those folks may not even know who Shakespeare is, but they did a dang good job gutting our manufacturing and technology industries. 

    Perhaps we need to fight back in the same manner to catch up. Then again, either way, Catcher in the Rye was a horrendously stupid book, so it's of no loss to the classroom, imo.

    /puts on flame retardant suit
  • Grand_Moff_Joseph: dickfreckle: Spitting out a kid who can only write as though it were a technical manual is not the way to fix things.

    Um, what do you think the education systems of half the world have been doing for the last 20 years? Those folks may not even know who Shakespeare is, but they did a dang good job gutting our manufacturing and technology industries. 

    Perhaps we need to fight back in the same manner to catch up. Then again, either way, Catcher in the Rye was a horrendously stupid book, so it's of no loss to the classroom, imo.

    /puts on flame retardant suit


    Our manufacturing and tech industries weren't gutted because we were teaching Shakespeare and other countries weren't.
  • "In the end, education has to be about more than simply ensuring that kids can get a job. Isn't it supposed to be about making well-rounded citizens?"

    HAHA!! Yeah, sure, and prisons are for "rehabilitation."
  • naughtyrev: They think this will help make kids prepared for college?


    Even if true, I fail to see how that would help.
  • FlyingLizardOfDoom: Catcher in the Rye was a stupid book.


    Grand_Moff_Joseph: Catcher in the Rye was a horrendously stupid book


    Matthew 7:6
  • All you people bagging on the Catcher in the Rye are a bunch of PHONIES!
  • Dogberry: naughtyrev: Please tell me this is satire. They think this will help make kids prepared for college?

    Not satire. See US Dept of Education's "Race to the Top."


    That's where the most heat escapes, after all.

    /we need to double down on insulation
  • Shostie: All you people bagging on the Catcher in the Rye are a bunch of PHONIES!


    And this is where they live.

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  • dickfreckle: Supporters of the directive argue that it will help pupils to develop the ability to write concisely and factually, which will be more useful in the workplace than a knowledge of Shakespeare.

    Bullsh*t. It's not the knowledge of Shakespeare that makes the kid employable or ready for college. It's his or her exposure, however cursory, to a wide range of subjects. Spitting out a kid who can only write as though it were a technical manual is not the way to fix things.


    But, soft! what heat through yonder window escapes?
    It is R-8, to protect Juliet from the sun.
  • FTFA: "A new school curriculum which will affect 46 out of 50 states will make it compulsory for at least 70 per cent of books studied to be non-fiction, in an effort to ready pupils for the workplace. "
    And here is precicely the underlying problem in the US. We have changed our education system into a worker-bee development system.

    ed·u·ca·tion/ˌɛdʒʊˈkeɪʃən/ Show Spelled [ej-oo-key-shuhn] noun
    1. the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life.

    Education has nothing to do with being able to start working at Home Depot or Microsoft. Call me whackadoodle, but this is an indicator of our march from citizens to serfs.
  • But I will add that there are far better books than Catcher in the Rye....god that was awful.
  • Plus, there are no Cliff Notes for "Recommended Levels of Insulation". Joking aside, I think this is a travesty. Love literature or hate it, I cannot see the logic in removing it from the curriculum in favor of teaching kids about insulation so they are "prepared for the working world." We have to inspire kids to succeed. Not insult them by forcing mediocrity upon them.
  • doyner: But I will add that there are far better books than Catcher in the Rye....god that was awful.


    At the time Catcher was assigned reading in HS I was digging Hesse's Demian. Emil Sinclair is a far more interesting study IMHO.
  • I thought this was satire as well. What the hell are people thinking? How could this possibly help kids in any way at all?
  • Dogberry: naughtyrev: Please tell me this is satire. They think this will help make kids prepared for college?

    Not satire. See US Dept of Education's "Race to the Top."


    I went to DOE's RTTT website and searched for "Recommended Insulation Levels." Nothing relevant. Searched for "Invasive Plant Inventory." A hit on learning about ecological concepts in 5th grade which is entirely reasonable. If you have some more evidence, please share. This is on Drudge Report too so I'm halfway assuming its Bullshiat to begin with.
  • Klippoklondike: I thought this was satire as well. What the hell are people thinking? How could this possibly help kids in any way at all?


    It'll help me with my blown out insulation.
  • "Neville Shunt's latest West End Success: It All Happened on the 11.20 from Hainault to Redhill via Horsham and Reigate, calling at Carshalton Beeches, Malmesbury, Tooting Bec and Croydon West is currently appearing at the Limp Theatre, Piccadilly. What Shunt is doing in this, as in his earlier nine plays, is to express the human condition in terms of British Rail."
  • Somacandra: Dogberry: naughtyrev: Please tell me this is satire. They think this will help make kids prepared for college?

    Not satire. See US Dept of Education's "Race to the Top."

    I went to DOE's RTTT website and searched for "Recommended Insulation Levels." Nothing relevant. Searched for "Invasive Plant Inventory." A hit on learning about ecological concepts in 5th grade which is entirely reasonable. If you have some more evidence, please share. This is on Drudge Report too so I'm halfway assuming its Bullshiat to begin with.


    There are articles by the Washington Post and the NY Times about it as well. So, looks real to me.

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